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[Berserker.]

This is a pretty stark contrast to the "Buster is underrated, people overrate speed/jump" I've been hearing from you before.

It was a hyperbole :>

I still use buster only when I need to equalize the percentage

 

[Soul.]

"Shulk has the advantage on Pikachu with his range."
"You can finally use Smash!"
.
yes, use smash so that Pikachu baits the fsmash and punishes Kappa

 

[Berserker.]

Why f-smash when you can use u-tilt, f-tilt, or d-throw?

 

[WolfieXVII ❂]

Is it bad that I start out with Shield Shulk
I'm just not good at SH nairs with shulk

 

[Soul.]

Why f-smash when you can use u-tilt, f-tilt, or d-throw?

unless I'm slow and Shulk mains have stopped using fsmash
then uh... ****

 

[Berserker.]

Is it bad that I start out with Shield Shulk
I'm just not good at SH nairs with shulk

It's... okay...

 

[Aunt Jemima]

Shulk is weird. I can't play him whatsoever.

 

[Spirst]

Me playing Shulk just consists of a bunch of random SH nairs in speed stance hoping I hit something. I suck with the character.

 

[Lavani]

Me playing Shulk just consists of a bunch of random SH nairs in speed stance hoping I hit something. I suck with the character.

These sound like conflicting statements to me.

 

[Soul.]

1. F-tilt (normal)
2. Frame 12-13: 13% 30b/92g (KO@ 140%) 361° Slash
3. Frame 12-13: 11.5% 30b/92g (KO@ 159%) 361° Slash
4. Max Damage: 13%
5. 
   
6. U-tilt
7. Frame 11-23: 8% 70b/90g (KO@ 185%) 85° Slash
8. Frame 13-23: 7% 65b/85g (KO@ 241%) 108° Slash
9. Max Damage: 8%
10. 
    
11. 
    
12. D-throw
13. Frame 1-22: 4% 75b/115g (KO@ 242%) 50°
14. Frame 23-24: 3% 0b/100g (KO@ 503%) 361° 1.2-Hitlag Pierce
15. Max Damage: 7%

lol shulk's frame data

 

[Aunt Jemima]

Wait, Shulk has that bad of frame data?

Why did I never know this?

 

[Soul.]

You know now.
Embrace the slow.

 

[Nammy12]

Wait, Shulk has that bad of frame data?

Why did I never know this?

Because he compensates with range.

 

[Berserker.]

lol shulk's frame data

It's garbage but it's probably better that way

You really are the Shulk version of Machiatoto

I have to get better with speed art, but the thing is, every time I spend with one or two arts, I usually discard and forget the other

This is what happened when I was making that buster guide. I spent too much time with buster then loved the art

 

[S.F.L.R_9]

You can also MALLC his aerials so

 

[Aunt Jemima]

Monado Arts should change the startup/endlag of his moves, lol.

 

[Nammy12]

Monado Arts should change the startup/endlag of his moves, lol.

Monado speed reducing end lag?
That would be nice. and kind of broken.

*Edit*
Sweet, I got the page.

*Edit 2*
grumble Fine. Here's a gif. Don't ask what it is.

 

[Aunt Jemima]

PAGE 800 HYPE

 

[Soul.]

Yes, Shulk's frame data is garbage.
Which means "Shield the ******* move and punish!"

 

[Spirst]

PAGE 800 HYPE

 

[Aunt Jemima]

Monado speed reducing end lag?
That would be nice. and kind of broken.

*Edit*
Sweet, I got the page.

Nammy confirmed best page hype member

I posted after I saw Nammy post because I didn't want to double post and have BJN ban me

 

[Fernosaur]

Monado speed reducing end lag?
That would be nice. and kind of broken.

*Edit*
Sweet, I got the page.

Is this really page 800's opening post?

IS THIS REALLY?!

BJN you have to do something about it.

 

[SBphiloz4]

I KNEW IT WAS GOING TO BE ANTI-CLIMATIC

I'M PSYCHIC GORLS

 

[Berserker.]

Just want to clarify something about his frame data, and why it's Dedede-bad

His range is disproportionately huge compared to the roster. It's even a level above Marth's. The only character who has slightly less range than Shulk overall is Dedede but his frame data is comparable to Shulk's. The range of Shulk's normals are meant to zone out opponents. You can't really go nuts with it unless you cross up with n-air.

So basically, the disjoint compensates for the frame data

Yes, Shulk's frame data is garbage.
Which means "Shield the ******* move and punish!"

This is usually the mindset of other players but it's harder in practice. You'll profit more from shield grabbing but there are ways Shulk can make his moves not punishable

 

[Blossom ✿]

Sooo, page 800, eh? Do you guys do anything special for every 100 pages?

 

[Soul.]

This is usually the mindset of other players but it's harder in practice. You'll profit more from shield grabbing but there are ways Shulk can make his moves not punishable

Dammit. MALLC works I suppose?
Or something.

idk, I really don't know the MU. Range vs Silly Frame Data

 

[Nammy12]

Sooo, page 800, eh? Do you guys do anything special for every 100 pages?

We raid visit other character's social threads.
iirc, we were going to go back to the Robin's.

 

[2004Zilla]

AHAHAHA I ****ING LOVE LIGHTNING KICKS

 

[Berserker.]

MALLC may alleviate the shield grabbing issue

Thing with people is that, they're all like, "Shulk's frame data is garbage. Imma stomp you lololol," and they still get bopped.

 

[Lavani]

Just want to clarify something about his frame data, and why it's Dedede-bad

Shulk's frame data makes me feel good about Dedede.

All of Shulk's other attributes make him by far the better character though. Frame data is important but it isn't everything, Shulk has plenty of numerical advantages in other categories (especially with Monado Arts amplifying things).

 

[Aunt Jemima]

Sooo, page 800, eh? Do you guys do anything special for every 100 pages?

We always do super special things!

But then @ Nammy12 took over the page.

SOMEBODY GO DELETE A POST AND GIVE IT TO ME

 

[Spirst]

We should go raid visiT the Melee Fox boards and give them a good clocking.

 

[Berserker.]

We should go raid visiT the Melee Fox boards and give them a good clocking.

Dude.

That's ****ing genius

 

[Deleted member]

Sooo, page 800, eh? Do you guys do anything special for every 100 pages?

Heck yeah we do.

 

[Soul.]

whats more important than frame data

 

[Berserker.]

whats more important than frame data

Let's ask Almostlegendary

 

[Lavani]

whats more important than frame data

Spoiler

I bet those commercials are older than some of the people here.

 

[BJN39]

AHAHAHA I ****ING LOVE LIGHTNING KICKS

LK LANDED. SASS LEVEL UP!

*Psychic guess mode!* I bet that was the first LK you landed that stock. ;3 since it did 21%.

 

[Soul.]

Let's ask Almostlegendary

ayy lmoa

 

[S.F.L.R_9]

whats more important than frame data

BELIEVING

Sooo, page 800, eh? Do you guys do anything special for every 100 pages?

Oh we certainly do :^)