Guide Zelda Social: But also the FE Heroes Internet Cafe

[Berserker.]

Congrats but n-no zelda?

Nope

 

[Macchiato]

@D3RK can you get a picture of what happens when grabs zelda when she uses rejection? Its a really weird visual error

 

[warionumbah2]

Edit 2: My bro's Mega Man's effing legit but holy ****, the matches are boring. 1 minute left ALL THE TIME.

Don't knock it till you try it.

 

[Nammy12]

So, like Yoshi's one-two, "I'm an adorable badass" victory pose?

That pose always reminds me of the raging demon lol

 

[Berserker.]

Mega Man is fun to play as

Watching and going against him is a different story. Unless you're Diddy, Sheik, MK, etc, *insert bad MU*

 

[SBphiloz4]

That wasn't even a day-long relationship with Diddy. Ooh.

 

[Macchiato]

So Rejection is better than love in 3/4 of the MUs. Love is good for rushdowns

 

[UkeNicky]

Unrelated and related: big, burly men with big swords.

Spoiler: How I feel about big burly men and their big swords (NSFW)

Edit: What the hell though, did he grab that Iron Giant's sword and slam it into it xD ?
That seems like some Bayonetta climax finishing shi right there

 

[FullMoon]

Breloom is the epitome of a Pokémon that has just the right combination of moves, abilities, and typing to be good, despite mostly mediocre stats. Though its Attack is NOT to be underestimated.

Speaking of stats, if you start comparing them Pokémon to Pokémon you'll see they can be funny. Check Onix's Attack, then check Weedle's. Go on, I'll wait.

Greninja is faster than god and has a hidden ability that is basically said god's ability, but even better.

Pokémon is silly.

 

[Berserker.]

That wasn't even a day-long relationship with Diddy. Ooh.

Diddy cost me the final loss smh

 

[UkeNicky]

Holy shi, when you realize you have all the clothes necessary for a Hiro Hamada cosplay just hanging in your closet.
LOL now all I need is my hair dyed black

 

[Berserker.]

ALSO. One more thing about the tournament. I want to stress that I'm still pro-3 stocks. 2 stock matches were too short

Alright, the end. Back to the lab

 

[Locke 06]

Lol. I was going to reply in Colony 6. But this makes more sense.

He did REALLY well with Mega Man. He easily had the biggest crowd reaction of the day with some clutch hard read. He was one place below me

Edit 2: My bro's Mega Man's effing legit but holy ****, the matches are boring. 1 minute left ALL THE TIME. He got some super clutch KO's.

Firrrst offff...

Spoiler

Good job. And I bet you probably would've done better if you... you know... were used to the controller? lol

Your brother sounds like a classic defensive Mega Man. He's super duper hype when he makes reads and has the tools to do so (utilt, smashes, and dair), but he can be incredibly safe and just not kill until bthrow, BAir, or some kind of edge guard (although uairs can safely steal kills... I love uair) or just time people out completely. Clutch KO's come from your opponent doing something punishable (shield drop>utilt) or getting predictable due to you dragging out the game and reading their habits. And most people just aren't comfortable with grinding out games. Props to your bro. Send him over to the Mega Man boards and he can join the group of not dumb people there. (I'm pretty sure I'm the only one there who comes here... but the Mega Man boards can be irritatingly. dumb. Thankfully the actual MU threads aren't bad and discussion goes well with the people who like to take part.)

Also, pocket Diddys work on meh people, but I find the better players (later in the tournament) have practiced the Diddy MU enough to beat okay Diddy's. Especially Sheiks, who usually play against Diddys due to being the kind of person who plays a "top tier" and likely being around others who do the same. Mario does alright with Sheik, doesn't he? He has the frame data to compete with her and up-B/up-smash to challenge aerial approaches. I don't know why you went with the monkey.


Ugh. I need to go to tournaments. -_- Soon, I guess.

Eeedit: So it was 2-stocks... 6 or 5 minutes?

 

[Lavani]

That wasn't even a day-long relationship with Diddy. Ooh.

Macchiato'd

Greninja is faster than god and has a hidden ability that is basically said god's ability, but even better.

Pokémon is silly.

Yeah but god's stats are still better with a more diverse movepool.

Not that it keeps god from being enslaved by a 12 year old kid to do their bidding.

 

[Berserker.]

Zelda Social Tier List:
S(a)SSTier: Nammy12,BJN39,Fuujin
A Tier: Lavani,Ffamran,SBphiloz4,XDanDan612,Twili,Latte,Mocha,JigglyZelda003,Fernosaur,Phenomiracle,Macchiato,Aleate, GingerGaymer,RaccoonBL, everyone else I can't name
C(ancer Main) Tier: berserker01(),bluecrow,CPU 3()
L(ow self-esteem) Tier: Me
Z(ero Gravity Spamus) Tier: Aerodrome, Reserved, Nairo

Dropped Diddy. My DD is booty

Lol. I was going to reply in Colony 6. But this makes more sense.

Firrrst offff...

Spoiler

Good job. And I bet you probably would've done better if you... you know... were used to the controller? lol

Your brother sounds like a classic defensive Mega Man. He's super duper hype when he makes reads and has the tools to do so (utilt, smashes, and dair), but he can be incredibly safe and just not kill until bthrow, BAir, or some kind of edge guard (although uairs can safely steal kills... I love uair) or just time people out completely. Clutch KO's come from your opponent doing something punishable (shield drop>utilt) or getting predictable due to you dragging out the game and reading their habits. And most people just aren't comfortable with grinding out games. Props to your bro. Send him over to the Mega Man boards and he can join the group of not dumb people there. (I'm pretty sure I'm the only one there who comes here... but the Mega Man boards can be irritatingly. dumb. Thankfully the actual MU threads aren't bad and discussion goes well with the people who like to take part.)

Also, pocket Diddys work on meh people, but I find the better players (later in the tournament) have practiced the Diddy MU enough to beat okay Diddy's. Especially Sheiks, who usually play against Diddys due to being the kind of person who plays a "top tier" and likely being around others who do the same. Mario does alright with Sheik, doesn't he? He has the frame data to compete with her and up-B/up-smash to challenge aerial approaches. I don't know why you went with the monkey.


Ugh. I need to go to tournaments. -_- Soon, I guess.

Eeedit: So it was 2-stocks... 6 or 5 minutes?

6 minutes. At least it wasn't 5 minutes which is total BS

He actually got a bunch of hard reads from MM's d-smash. LOL. Those reads were unbelievable.

I think Shulk is okay against Sheik but I'm 100% sure that Mario handles the match up better. Problem was at the moment, I felt like my Mario wasn't trained enough so I had to rely on Shulk. Gotta train my Mario but I'm proud of my solo Shulk

I only used speed pivot grab and pivot f-tilt once in the whole tournament btw. It's just not the same ;-;

 

[Macchiato]

@ S.F.L.R_9 or @ Nammy12 is there any way you can get pictures of what happens when olimar grabs zelda during rejection?

 

[S.F.L.R_9]

@ S.F.L.R_9 or @ Nammy12 is there any way you can get pictures of what happens when olimar grabs zelda during rejection?

Tbh I don't think it's worth getting them. To me it sounds like a weird glitch due to the weird effects of the move, kind of like how Palutena can glitch through the edge with Jump Glide and grab it backwards. Palutena's might be helpful for edgeguarding with fair, but this strange grab thing with Olimar doesn't seem to have any use

 

[Macchiato]

Tbh I don't think it's worth getting them. To me it sounds like a weird glitch due to the weird effects of the move, kind of like how Palutena can glitch through the edge with Jump Glide and grab it backwards. Palutena's might be helpful for edgeguarding with fair, but this strange grab thing with Olimar doesn't seem to have any use

It's still with mentioning imo.

 

[Lavani]

Olimar's grab is just janky in general.

 

[Locke 06]

Dropped Diddy. My DD is booty

6 minutes. At least it wasn't 5 minutes which is total BS

He actually got a bunch of hard reads from MM's d-smash. LOL

I think Shulk is okay against Sheik but I'm 100% sure that Mario handles the match up better. Problem was at the moment, I felt like my Mario wasn't trained enough so I had to rely on Shulk. Gotta train my Mario but I'm proud of my solo Shulk

I only used speed pivot grab and pivot f-tilt once in the whole tournament btw. It's just not the same ;-;

Keep Diddy for fun and torturing little kids. It's always nice to have a slightly better than average Diddy in your pocket to just show it to people. ATM I don't really know what I'd use my Zelda for other than for fun and torturing people.

MM's d-smash is legit. I've started to love that move for hard reads... the horizontal range on it is surprisingly good (and it's such a hype move in general. Looks so good on Wii U). If Ganondorf can get reads with his frame 20 smashes, I should be able to get reads with my frame 17 dsmash. That said, I need to get back to using utilt for roll reads... Less commitment (you can literally stand still waiting to utilt because of how quick it is instead of having to pre-emptively start the attack) and it actually hits harder uncharged. Sweetspotting a moving target is kinda hard though...

Oh, and the reason why I asked about 5-6 minutes is because... imagine if it were 5 minutes. Your brother would have timed out literally every match. I'm pro 3-stock 8 minutes.

 

[Berserker.]

Olimar's grab is just janky in general.

Yeah I agree. Diddy is just janky in general

Oh, a really good Diddy player won the tournament. NO ONE IS SPARED FROM THE EMPIRE

If I got the usage right...

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Alright, enough about the tournament. Back to sass

 

[S.F.L.R_9]

It's still with mentioning imo.

Yeah alright, I might be able to take some pics later but I'll be busy most of today. We'll see

Oh and @XDanDan612 @kaazers

Fear Zelda.

 

[FullMoon]

Macchiato'd


Yeah but god's stats are still better with a more diverse movepool.

Not that it keeps god from being enslaved by a 12 year old kid to do their bidding.

Mega Arceus with 140 in each stat except HP and Protean when

Also I just found this

And I can't help but find it adorable. Especially since Greninja is wagging his little tail like a dog.

 

[Deleted member]

Yeah alright, I might be able to take some pics later but I'll be busy most of today. We'll see

Oh and @XDanDan612 @kaazers

Fear Zelda.

NOOOOOOO LEAVE JIGGLYPUFF ALONE!

 

[SBphiloz4]

@ Macchiato , you up for a quick FT3 before I head out? Runback time for me with the gamepad again ehehehe.

EDIT: Actually, anyone else for that matter that wants a quick FT3, give a shout!

 

[Kofu]

So I find Peach a pretty neat character in this game and wouldn't mind using her...

Except I can't stand her victory animations.

 

[FullMoon]

What are you talking about "Aaw... Did I win?" is the best victory animation in the whole game.

 

[Kofu]

@ Macchiato , you up for a quick FT3 before I head out? Runback time for me with the gamepad again ehehehe.

EDIT: Actually, anyone else for that matter that wants a quick FT3, give a shout!

I'll play ya boiiii

What are you talking about "Aaw... Did I win?" is the best victory animation in the whole game.

Both of her victory animations make me want to tear my ears off.

 

[SBphiloz4]

I'll play ya boiiii

Cool cool, add me and I'll make the room!

 

[Fernosaur]

So a couple of friends stayed over for the night, and we literally spent the whole night playing Smash. I haven't slept for almost 24 hours now, hahaha.

Anyways, one of my friends, he used to be a really good aggro back in Brawl, and I haven't played him in ages. Turns out he suddenly became SUPER defensive in Sm4sh, and Ness being as powerful as he is in this game -seriously, there's nothing his nair can't stop, wtf- it was actually really annoying to play him with how defensive he's turned out to be. I kinda didn't want to play defensively either because we were playing friendlies and honestly having 12 minutes long friendly matches is not the way I wanna spend a Friday night, so I went generally aggro against him but f*ck, was that a pain in the ass.

It got to a point in which I got tired of his **** and I started pocketing his PK Thunders, hahaha, but then he started getting like genuinely upset and I stopped doing it for the sake of friendly fun.

Anyways, the thing I learned last night: I love Villager, but he's definitely really hard to play aggressively offline, and he's got SO much trouble killing defensive players and characters. I think I'm gonna stick to Mii Brawler for a while until I get the hang of him so I have a rushdown option up there :/. Seriously, where my Villager vs his Ness matches took like 8 minutes, my Mii Brawler could sometimes three-stock him in three. That was, of course, when I wasn't busy SD'ing :'D.

But I think I'm getting better at that.

tl;dr I'm gonna use Mii Brawler more. Also my friend sucks d*cks for becoming such a defensive sissy.

 

[warionumbah2]

 

[Ffamran]

Spoiler: How I feel about big burly men and their big swords (NSFW)

Edit: What the hell though, did he grab that Iron Giant's sword and slam it into it xD ?
That seems like some Bayonetta climax finishing shi right there

He also does wrestling moves. He alone makes the group manly since he's the only non-bishie of the group (that we know of and isn't a guest party member).

 

[S.F.L.R_9]

Woahhh, Ganon is so strong with customs. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oZK427NQppw

I've completely changed my opinion on him after seeing this, he looks like a solid mid tier now. He looks so much fun too; I might pick him up if custom tournaments become the norm.

 

[BJN39]

Fear Zelda.

You're doing it wrong.

You need to make

Jiggly hold up

through both hits.

Then she dies at 4%.

Duly noted

There's no red flash

But it works.

 

[SBphiloz4]

@ Kofu , good games! Those were fun! Love to play your G&W and Villager again, I don't have much MU experience against them, and you use them very well!

Oh and sorry for that SD on the third match, may have caused a bit of a momentum swing, haha. ^^;;

 

[Kofu]

@ Kofu , good games! Those were fun! Love to play your G&W and Villager again, I don't have much MU experience against them, and you use them very well!

Thanks, yeah, those were fun! Nice followups from DThrow; I had never seen bait airdodge to DAir before lol. Nice use of Din's as well.

I might have won that ROB one if I hadn't gotten meteored at like 30% >_>

 

[SBphiloz4]

Thanks, yeah, those were fun! Nice followups from DThrow; I had never seen bait airdodge to DAir before lol. Nice use of Din's as well.

I might have won that ROB one if I hadn't gotten meteored at like 30% >_>

Lol yeah, no ledge invincibility haha. And Skyloft is not my most favourite of stages either.

Run it back with me another time, I'll be waiting.

 

[FullMoon]

Oh geez, I need more experience with Bowser, I just lost 3 out of 4 matches I had with some really good player in For Glory. I kept telling myself that I shouldn't be having that much trouble but it happened anyway. The input lag didn't help either.

 

[Fernosaur]

Gorls

For real, if you get a chance to go to the Symphony of the Goddesses concerts, do so. They're amazing.

 

[Macchiato]

WAT my tournaments in 1 hour. Time to show what custom zelda can do