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[WolfieXVII ❂]

Vectoring was nice, too bad it's gone

I use jab lock to HSB/Fsmash for no reason.... lol. Not sure if you have to position yourself before the opponent falls down or something.

I had to double take, cause I've never seen you with a non-Pikachu avi

 

[Soul.]

Vectoring was nice, too bad it's gone

I had to double take, cause I've never seen you with a non-Pikachu avi

yeah i'm just trying it out
i'll go back to 2 Pika rn

 

[Deleted member]

Soo...I have two papers due tomorrow.....and I haven't started them at all...


YAY FOR PROCRASTINATION!

 

[TTTTTsd]

@ TTTTTsd Dr Guru who else does Doc do well against in the high tier bracket? other than Luigi.

As far as doing good/better than Mario, you could say to some extent Ness as his projectile works decently vs. him but I lack the experience in that MU in particular so I can't positively say it, but none of Doc's projectiles can be absorbed by Ness giving him actual control to SOME DEGREE in that MU. They're more effective than Mario fireballs in that MU at least. Anything else I'm not sure, but I do think Luigi is thankfully relevant cause he's a common pick right now and I think it's important to note.

I think the only top/high tier MUs that I think Doc does notably bad vs. are Sheik, ZSS to some extent, Rosalina a bit, and Pikachu off the top of my head. Everything else is just slightly worse than Mario MU IMO, but this could change down the road (I'm far from perfect lol).

Diddy actually isn't horrible (not great either but not hardcore loss) and Luigi is alright to deal with as Doc. Falcon I argue is close because of Falcon's options vs. Doc's and how they punish each other so far (really fun MU).

 

[Macchiato]

All this wii fit underrating is giving me a heart attack smh

 

[Rickster]

All the Zelda bashing is hurting me...

I'll make a tier list that everyone can criticize when I get home.

 

[Soul.]

As far as doing good/better than Mario, you could say to some extent Ness as his projectile works decently vs. him but I lack the experience in that MU in particular so I can't positively say it, but none of Doc's projectiles can be absorbed by Ness giving him actual control to SOME DEGREE in that MU. They're more effective than Mario fireballs in that MU at least. Anything else I'm not sure, but I do think Luigi is thankfully relevant cause he's a common pick right now and I think it's important to note.

I think the only top/high tier MUs that I think Doc does notably bad vs. are Sheik, ZSS to some extent, Rosalina a bit, and Pikachu off the top of my head. Everything else is just slightly worse than Mario MU IMO, but this could change down the road (I'm far from perfect lol).

Diddy actually isn't horrible (not great either but not hardcore loss) and Luigi is alright to deal with as Doc. Falcon I argue is close because of Falcon's options vs. Doc's and how they punish each other so far (really fun MU).

I can see why Doc does bad vs. Pikachu.
1. Mouse Pokémon is fast
2. Thunder Jolt/Wave
3. Quick Attack is the best
4. Combos
5. Doesn't care about gimps

Doc's customs help him a bit here though

 

[evmaxy54]

Uh...honestly, I'm trying to figure it out again now myself. When diagonals got changed in 1.0.5 it made my method (wiggle rapidly over a cardinal direction) not work anymore. If I figure it out again I'll let you know!

That would be much appreciated thank you sis!

 

[S.F.L.R_9]

All the Zelda bashing is hurting me...

I'll make a tier list that everyone can criticize when I get home.

Zeldawful bashing is fun tho :')
I honestly don't think she's that bad tho. I'd say she's middle tier. I don't think WFT is bad either @ Macchiato :^)

 

[WolfieXVII ❂]

All the Zelda bashing is hurting me...

I'll make a tier list that everyone can criticize when I get home.

Got you covered
Sasš Tier :4zelda:
>>>>>>>>
Everyone else

 

[Cenizas]

All this wii fit underrating is giving me a heart attack smh

Wut. I put her as mid tier in my list, when you compared her range to Mario's, it was an aha moment for me. While she has wonkier hitboxes, her range is about Mario's on each side. Word on the street is Mario doesn't kill well, something WFT is much better at doing. I mean, DB f-tilt, plz. A kill move that comes out that quickly and can be done out of a pivot is bonkers. I feel she has a stronger air game as well, but I'd need a frame data comparison or something. Her recovery makes Mario look like Little Mac, lol. His combo game is better, but who needs that when you got herp derp mega hoops on your side. The only thing keeping me from bringing her up even further currently a lack of results.

Page is mine, submit to your new overlord with a six pack and helpful exercise tips.

 

[Locke 06]

I just got called a spammer, by a NAir spamming Rosalina.

Here's the kicker:

Spoiler

I was playing as and used all of her moves except up throw.

#forglory

 

[Lavani]

I just got called a spammer, by a NAir spamming Rosalina.

Here's the kicker:

Spoiler

I was playing as and used all of her moves except up throw.

#forglory

Are you sure he was calling you a spammer and not just letting you know that he is?

 

[Locke 06]

Are you sure he was calling you a spammer and not just letting you know that he is?

How foolish of me to assume otherwise. Internet people are always so respectful and honest.

In other news, I can't PP to the right... I wonder if using the gamepad has anything to do with that...

 

[JigglyZelda003]

anyone feel like playing for a bit? i'm bored of roll glory lag

 

[Macchiato]

anyone feel like playing for a bit? i'm bored of roll glory lag

Sure

 

[JigglyZelda003]

Sure

want me to host?

 

[Lavani]

In other news, I can't PP to the right... I wonder if using the gamepad has anything to do with that...

I can't either (3DS, though). The thumb motion feels much more awkward moving right than moving left, imo

 

[Macchiato]

want me to host?

Sure

 

[Cenizas]

I can't either (3DS, though). The thumb motion feels much more awkward moving right than moving left, imo

You can PP on the ds? I can't even tell whether I'm foxtrotting ever.

 

[Lavani]

You can PP on the ds? I can't even tell whether I'm foxtrotting ever.

I get it around 1 in 3 times (again, only going left), but my hands aren't fast enough to do any attacks out of it without a C-stick so it's kind of pointless for me to do.

 

[Rizen]

Wifi anyone?

 

[Soul.]

You can PP on the ds? I can't even tell whether I'm foxtrotting ever.

"everything the Wii U does so can the 3DS mechanics-wise"

 

[S.F.L.R_9]

How would you Zelda players feel if I made a rage research thread on her KO moves? The Palutena boards made one, and it seems like it could be helpful to get exact numbers for Zelda considering a rage elevator is lethal.

 

[Furret]

How would you Zelda players feel if I made a rage research thread on her KO moves? The Palutena boards made one, and it seems like it could be helpful to get exact numbers for Zelda considering a rage elevator is lethal.

how about we just send a petition to sakurai to remove rage instead.

 

[Deleted member]

Wifi anyone?

I'll play you if you still wanna play

 

[Berserker.]

I actually am okay with rage only because it makes heavies more viable and scarier

 

[Rizen]

How would you Zelda players feel if I made a rage research thread on her KO moves?

I for one would be appalled ! /jk go for it.

I'll play you if you still wanna play

okay add me and I'll add you.
Edit, okay friend request sent and room is up. glhf

 

[Lavani]

How would you Zelda players feel if I made a rage research thread on her KO moves? The Palutena boards made one, and it seems like it could be helpful to get exact numbers for Zelda considering a rage elevator is lethal.

KERO actually did some work for the Greninja boards with that, I think it's very useful information to have; I certainly wouldn't have known that I could be going for uthrow kills at ~120% with rage without that.

I actually am okay with rage only because it makes heavies more viable and scarier

It feels like it hurts a decent amount of characters more than it helps them, particularly when they have combo starters with high base knockback that start to launch too far something like 30% earlier than they should.

 

[Rizen]

I'll play you if you still wanna play

Okay friend request sent and room is up.

 

[Cenizas]

"everything the Wii U does so can the 3DS mechanics-wise"

I'm talking about how he has the ability to do it, ofc I know it's possible.

 

[Soul.]

I'm talking about how he has the ability to do it, ofc I know it's possible.

Flick the Circle Pad asap.
Not really useful on 3DS. I haven't seen them on Wii U too so it's w/e

 

[Lavani]

aMSa's the only player I've seen using them extensively in actual play, but supposedly they're useful for Luigi idk

Unrelated, lol at Lucario #11 and above Fox and Luigi on the community tier list.

 

[Rizen]

I'll play you if you still wanna play

Sorry every time my phone rings my internet DCs. Never use centurylink. Can you rejoin?

 

[Deleted member]

Sorry every time my phone rings my internet DCs. Never use centurylink. Can you rejoin?

Aw that must suck But it's totally fine!

 

[Rickster]

Ok, here's my mess of a tier list. I didn't think it would be this hard to make one...

S:

A:

A-:

B:

B-:

C:

C-:

D:


,,,, and have been left out because I know next to nothing about them. I also didn't take customs into account.
...
Lol the Zelda characters all ended up next to each other.

EDIT: I feel like by putting Zelda so high, my list is gonna be instantly terrible to you guys, LOL.

 

[Macchiato]

GGs @ JigglyZelda003 hahaha that was so much fun, our ledge battles are the best. Any wii fit ZSS or mop advice?

@ Rickster Wii fit trainer below B? MESS

 

[Berserker.]

I like how we all thought Ike was fine and viable but we still put him at the lower half of our lists (Most of us, not all of us)

 

[Rickster]

GGs @ JigglyZelda003 hahaha that was so much fun, our ledge battles are the best. Any wii fit ZSS or mop advice?

@ Rickster Wii fit trainer below B? MESS

I almost put her in D but then I thought about you.

 

[JigglyZelda003]

lol legdetensity Zamus is so zero skill spamus i hate her and her jet heels XD

i got nothing though seems like you have a good handle on them as far as i can tell lol. Wii Fit so jank though with them spikes XD