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[Soul.]

So Smashladder has released v2 of their tier list & it actually has Zelda in the correct tier

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet...itPsZ1oYk/htmlview?usp=sharing&pli=1&sle=true

ayy Pika number 3 les gooooooo ! ! ! ! !

Fox.

All I need is Ness and I'll pull a NAKAT

 

[Lavani]

I still haven't found a secondary. Any suggestions?

Meta Knight.

Speaking of Meta Knight, wow he's low on that Smashladder list. G&W surprisingly high too. I like seeing Mega Man in A+ though.

 

[Mythra]

People here suggest Zelda not because this is the Zelda Thread, Lighting Kicks or brutal Din's Fires with sniper precision.
It's because Zelda's sass completely wrecks Diddy's Hoo Hah in every existant and non-existant way possible and impossible

FACT

 

[Macchiato]

I main Palutena now

I just looked at the tier list and yew said that zelda is in the right tier so I expected b tier but what did I get. A disgustingly wrong placement for zelda.

 

[Lozjam]

I never knew my Lord had become such a popular character these days... I know I am practically propaganda for him, but why do so many play with him? There isn't anything that broken about Ganondorf(I actually think he is the most balanced character in the cast. He has a near perfect blend of weaknesses and strengths)
I haven't even seen that many Ganondorfs on FG....

 

[Lavani]

I main Palutena now

I SAW THAT.

Jeez that didn't even last two minutes.

 

[Soul.]

A logistical approach: I will be honest, I have no clue about Pikachu's MU's, but him losing to Sheik, Yoshi, Diddy, etc. makes sense. Perhaps pick up someone who covers those?

The right approach: USE ZELDA

Alright I'll list that stuff here let's go.
1. Sheik yeah, she puts Pika in disadvantage.
2. Yoshi's annoying. Beatable though.
3. Doesn't every character lose to Diddy? I mean there's a chance Pikachu might have that MU even but...

(Bringing up customs because that thing is revelant) In some MUs Pika will want Thunder Wave to screw the other character. What characters are affected by TWave I don't know, possibly heavies and fast fallers. I would have to play with a Sheik, Diddy and Yoshi with customs on to try them out and it would have to be on 3DS.

Meta Knight.

Speaking of Meta Knight, wow he's low on that Smashladder list. G&W surprisingly high too. I like seeing Mega Man in A+ though.

Footstool combos must not be reliable

 

[S.F.L.R_9]

Alright I'll list that stuff here let's go.
1. Sheik yeah, she puts Pika in disadvantage.
2. Yoshi's annoying. Beatable though.
3. Doesn't every character lose to Diddy? I mean there's a chance Pikachu might have that MU even but...

(Bringing up customs because that thing is revelant) In some MUs Pika will want Thunder Wave to screw the other character. What characters are affected by TWave I don't know, possibly heavies and fast fallers. I would have to play with a Sheik, Diddy and Yoshi with customs on to try them out and it would have to be on 3DS.


Footstool combos must not be reliable

Loses to Sheik, you say? Fight fire with fire;
USE Z E L D A
Ok really um, I would say Rosalina just for Diddy cuz loluma wrecking grabs, but she loses to Sheik and possibly Yoshi simply because they put massive pressure on her. What about using ZSS?

 

[Rizen]

You know what's amazing? When you're grabbed by Crazy hand, and you're stunned for a while THEN Master Hand throws out those stupid orange cards of doom which send you up while YOU'RE STILL STUNNED

Or you get floor planted and the cards still carry you up. I've had the hands chain grab me; crazy hand can release and put the character to sleep. IMO the hands are the most dangerous part of the master core battle.

 

[Mythra]

I decided to main Palutena because I love to smack everything with her shield

KOing with B-Air feels so good

 

[Lozjam]

So Smashladder has released v2 of their tier list & it actually has Zelda in the correct tier

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet...itPsZ1oYk/htmlview?usp=sharing&pli=1&sle=true

Put Ganondorf on #27, and Link on #26
Bring G&W and Duck hunt, and Dedede way way down,
Bring WFT up to B tier.
Put Bowser on slot 22
And there.... I think that would be a pretty accurate Tier List,

 

[FullMoon]

Meta Knight.

Speaking of Meta Knight, wow he's low on that Smashladder list. G&W surprisingly high too. I like seeing Mega Man in A+ though.

I was actually called to help build the tier list though I didn't really do much because I was multitasking most of the time.

I did however make sure Greninja was at least on Top 20. Got him in Top 15 even!

There are still a few things that are pretty bad in that list to me at least. Like Meta Knight being too low and G&W and Megaman being a bit too high, I'm not gonna complain much though.

 

[Berserker.]

No need to complain about this. Just wait until the actual tier list arrives.

 

[Furret]

So Smashladder has released v2 of their tier list & it actually has Zelda in the correct tier

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet...itPsZ1oYk/htmlview?usp=sharing&pli=1&sle=true

not sure what smash ladder is, but I really don't think this is an actual tier list...

 

[Lavani]

I was actually called to help build the tier list though I didn't really do much because I was multitasking most of the time.

I did however make sure Greninja was at least on Top 20. Got him in Top 15 even!

There are still a few things that are pretty bad in that list to me at least. Like Meta Knight being too low and G&W and Megaman being a bit too high, I'm not gonna complain much though.

Oh, it isn't a results-based list like the ones from Anther's ladder? Interesting.

That really makes me surprised at G&W and MK's rankings.

I decided to main Palutena because I love to smack everything with her shield

KOing with B-Air feels so good

I love Palutena's bair

an aerial with invincibility was the best idea ever

 

[FullMoon]

Basically the people who were on the Top 50 in the 3DS and Wii U rankings were called so we could structure a tier list. I think I was 49th in the 3DS ranking so I got called to it.

It wasn't very organized to be honest so yeah, the result was a bit messy. You can't really take this tier list seriously because of it.

 

[Lavani]

Alright I'll list that stuff here let's go.
1. Sheik yeah, she puts Pika in disadvantage.
2. Yoshi's annoying. Beatable though.
3. Doesn't every character lose to Diddy? I mean there's a chance Pikachu might have that MU even but...

Supposedly MK goes 55:45 with Sheik.

Pick up , the bat wills it.

also yeah rosa v diddy is like 35:65 , there's a reason da buzz goes Olimar for that MU.

 

[Soul.]

Loses to Sheik, you say? Fight fire with fire;
USE Z E L D A
Ok really um, I would say Rosalina just for Diddy cuz loluma wrecking grabs, but she loses to Sheik and possibly Yoshi simply because they put massive pressure on her. What about using ZSS?

Didn't Rosalina lose vs. Diddy though.
ZSS is just too much lol

Supposedly MK goes 55:45 with Sheik.

Pick up , the bat wills it.

Every time I use MK I think this is Braw--
wait what gamexplain

 

[Berserker.]

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Man, I hope he's wrong about this ;-;

 

[Mythra]

There was a problem fetching the tweet

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Man, I hope he's wrong about this ;-;

Im okay if something is broken if it can wreck Diddy

 

[S.F.L.R_9]

Didn't Rosalina lose vs. Diddy though.
ZSS is just too much lol

She definitely loses, but Luma is helpful against the grabs and she has better range w/ luma and...that's pretty much all she has against him lol, but it still is helpful in a pinch
If ZSS doesn't cut it for you, I'm not sure who else would work. Have you tried asking about secondaries in the Pika boards?

 

[Ffamran]

Supposedly MK goes 55:45 with Sheik.

Pick up , the bat wills it.

also yeah rosa v diddy is like 35:65 , there's a reason da buzz goes Olimar for that MU.

Batter up, folks. The night will have his day and a home run.

 

[Lavani]

Batter up, folks. The night will have his day and a home run.

Is it bad that my first thought was "Where's the PK Fire?"

 

[2004Zilla]

@ Macchiato back to Zelda again?

 

[Soul.]

She definitely loses, but Luma is helpful against the grabs and she has better range w/ luma and...that's pretty much all she has against him lol, but it still is helpful in a pinch
If ZSS doesn't cut it for you, I'm not sure who else would work. Have you tried asking about secondaries in the Pika boards?

Pika boards are barely active unfortunately. There's not a lot of matchup stuff.
I would ask but eh.

 

[McKnightlíght]

@ Macchiato

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Bowsercide now has a whole new meaning.

Stomped him through the lava lol. Triforce of Power at work.

...****ing luma.

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Lol, that is weird! Why would anyone use Dark Pit?

 

[Furret]

Didn't Rosalina lose vs. Diddy though.
ZSS is just too much lol

Every time I use MK I think this is Braw--
wait what gamexplain

should play pit

There was a problem fetching the tweet

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Man, I hope he's wrong about this ;-;

I enjoy diddy more than I enjoy the prospect of Rosalina. Secondly the first step towards banning specific customs is making them all legal. and At least customs give you a reason to play black pit because his guiding bow is actually better then white pit's

Batter up, folks. The night will have his day and a home run.

 

[Macchiato]

@ Macchiato back to Zelda again?

Someday sis, someday

 

[Lavani]

and At least customs give you a reason to play black pit because his guiding bow is actually better then white pit's

Wait, really? I thought their custom arrows were the same.

The real reason to use is Electroshock destroying Luma.

 

[Berserker.]

Pika boards are barely active unfortunately. There's not a lot of matchup stuff.
I would ask but eh.

Anyway, Shulk VS Pikachu is about to come up in the Shulk boards so um.... really sucks to know that the Pika boards are inactive. How am I gonna deal with this? >_>

The only relevant Shulk vs Pikachu footage we have is ESAM (Dammit, he quit) vs Treluh, and K-Prime (AKA your board mod) vs Treluh so well ****. We aren't working with much material either. I guess. All I know is, SolidSense keeps saying that this match up is probably even because the disjoint is a seriously real problem for Pikachu while Pikachu's attack speed is a problem for Shulk.

Edit: There's also Jerm vs Anther but yeah, that's just 3 sets/matches

 

[Nammy12]

Lol, that is weird! Why would anyone use Dark Pit?

I ask my sister that too. (She secondaries Dark Pit for some reason)

 

[Deleted member]

Dear Zelda Social thread,

Who should I play alongside ?


I keep going through phases with certain characters but I can't decide on a second character, at least for the time being as I will pick up Mewtwo when he is released.

I've historically run and but lately has been fading.

Inb4 .


Thanks </3

 

[S.F.L.R_9]

Pika boards are barely active unfortunately. There's not a lot of matchup stuff.
I would ask but eh.

Ah, I see. Well, perhaps you should think of some other characters that you enjoy playing and watch some matches of those characters against Pikachu's difficult matchups. If any of them seem to fare well, try them out. That's all I can really say; I don't have much more advice past that.

 

[Lavani]

Anyway, Shulk VS Pikachu is about to come up in the Shulk boards so um.... really sucks to know that the Pika boards are inactive. How am I gonna deal with this? >_>

According to the quarter I just flipped 10 times the MU is 60:40 Shulk's favor :3

Dear Zelda Social thread,

Who should I play alongside ?


I keep going through phases with certain characters but I can't decide on a second character, at least for the time being as I will pick up Mewtwo when he is released.

I've historically run and but lately has been fading.

Inb4 .


Thanks </3

In fact, everyone should play

The bat wills it.

 

[Berserker.]

Dear Zelda Social thread,

Who should I play alongside ?


I keep going through phases with certain characters but I can't decide on a second character, at least for the time being as I will pick up Mewtwo when he is released.

I've historically run and but lately has been fading.

Inb4 .

Thanks </3

Have you tried out:

According to the quarter I just flipped 10 times the MU is 60:40 Shulk's favor :3

Coin flipping. Alright, I'm GOOD

Srs note: I'm not a fan of theory crafting so I can't contribute **** either to the discussion

 

[Macchiato]

Anyway, Shulk VS Pikachu is about to come up in the Shulk boards so um.... really sucks to know that the Pika boards are inactive. How am I gonna deal with this? >_>

The only relevant Shulk vs Pikachu footage we have is ESAM (Dammit, he quit) vs Treluh, and K-Prime (AKA your board mod) vs Treluh so well ****. We aren't working with much material either. I guess. All I know is, SolidSense keeps saying that this match up is probably even because the disjoint is a seriously real problem for Pikachu while Pikachu's attack speed is a problem for Shulk.

Edit: There's also Jerm vs Anther but yeah, that's just 3 sets/matches

Don't worry I mained pikachu for a day

 

[Berserker.]

Don't worry I mained pikachu for a day

I love you but

no

 

[Nammy12]

According to the quarter I just flipped 10 times the MU is 60:40 Shulk's favor :3

Well if we're going to do it like that then we might as well set lvl 9 Shulk and Pika CPUs against each other and decide the matchup from that.

 

[Deleted member]

Have you tried out:

Yes No Dabbled No No.

Mario was one of the characters I played as a main up until a little bit ago actually.

Curse my indecisiveness with characters.

 

[Lavani]

Well if we're going to do it like that then we might as well set lvl 9 Shulk and Pika CPUs against each other and decide the matchup from that.

I'll get back to you on that.