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[ZombieBran]

UAir was and IS Finger Bang.

That sounds--

Never mind it is the best name ever.

 

[SBphiloz4]

@ Rion , be back in a minute

 

[Rion]

@ Rion , be back in a minute

You're so good with that elevator FW! I wish I could be a little more effective at using it.

Same with throws, I never seem to do as good follow ups haha.

 

[LonkQ]

I wish grounded meteors weren't techable. It'd make playing Zelda like a ghetto Brawl Ganondorf a bit easier.

 

[Lavani]

I wish grounded meteors weren't techable. It'd make playing Zelda like a ghetto Brawl Ganondorf a bit easier.

But then we'd all live in fear of Luigi.

 

[SBphiloz4]

@ Rion , be back in a minute

You're so good with that elevator FW! I wish I could be a little more effective at using it.

Same with throws, I never seem to do as good follow ups haha.

Your kicks though. Too stronk, haha.

 

[ZombieBran]

But then we'd all live in fear of Luigi.

And there would be absolutely nothing wrong with that

 

[Rion]

Thank you for the games @ SBphiloz4 !

You made realize I should probably use the FW Elevator more for big punishes haha. I have been a bit too "safe" with it's usage I think!

I really want to improve on my throw follow ups too! You always get me with a Nair / Uair after these things.

You should definitely be careful about spot dodging too much. I started charging my Fsmashes more because I noticed you'd do it pretty often. It's a very hard habit to break, I should know hehe.

 

[SBphiloz4]

GG Rion. T'was fun. And for Dthrow combos, you have to note that you are able to follow up from the throw animation faster than it looks. It's stupid, but hey, everyone can do that in the game. And OoS FW. ccc:

One thing I don't understand is that some people SD when they see their opponent SD early. IDK, I just feel bad if they do that for my mistake. Aleate does that too. Or maybe Canadians are too nice. ; w ;

 

[Rion]

GG Rion. T'was fun. And for Dthrow combos, you have to note that you are able to follow up from the throw animation faster than it looks. It's stupid, but hey, everyone can do that in the game. And OoS FW. ccc:

One thing I don't understand is that some people SD when they see their opponent SD early. IDK, I just feel bad if they do that for my mistake. Aleate does that too. Or maybe Canadians are too nice. ; w ;

Well, as a Zelda player, I empathize with accidental Farore SDs! I mean, I do them all the time. If I'm at lowish %, I'll definitely even it out for a fellow "sister" so to speak haha, since we've all been there. It just makes the match a bit less "depressing" since it's back to even score.

Man though, I never seem to follow up from Dthrow very well. I usually do Uthrow > Nair at low percents and that usuallyyy works. But Dthrow was a habit I was trying to break because of it's half damage vs all her other throws, haha.

And yeah, I definitely try to get as much mileage out of Fair/Bair as possible. One of my tricks of doing SH AD Bair is a little frustrating because pressing the R button to AD for some reason makes me hit X/Y jump harder, so I end up doing a full hop instead (which puts me way too high, naturally). I guess some practicing is in order!

Either way, I'd love to play you again sometime! It's interesting to see the playstyle and meta of other Zelda players~

 

[ZombieBran]

I forgot to say this but I ****ing loved Hotel Dusk
10/10 game

This thread is getting more popular, visitor wise. I guess people are finally realizing that the Zelda social thread is the best character thread.

 

[Rion]

Don't suppose anyone else wants to try playing some online? ;o

 

[SBphiloz4]

Yeah, I prefer Dthrow still to this date and not Uthrow as much. Still gets you some neat things depending on the DI used. And that's why I just default FW just below the ledge. Ain't confident in my aiming skills at all, haha.

Still have a ways to go with my Zelda, I find it to be more style than substance as of now. Trying to overdo things she shouldn't be doing. As a player, I'm extremely affected by momentum shifts, going either way, and tend to choke a lot, haha. Why tournies will probably not be a thing for me.

 

[Fuoujin 2]

i just miss brawl zelda in general

anyone who thinks smash 4 zelda is better than brawl ought to go play brawl again

120 challenges out of 140 atm...

mfw i die to bull**** like ness usmash at 70%:

It seems like some of the most random moves in this game are kill moves.

Peach's dash attack kills now.

Rion we can play if you're still looking to.

 

[Fuoujin 2]

You heard that @ Fuoujin 2 , keep as low of a profile as possible.

I am NAWT scared of the red tyrants sis.


Like the phoenix I always rise again.

 

[Rickster]

It seems like some of the most random moves in this game are kill moves.

Peach's dash attack kills now.

Rion we can play if you're still looking to.

Would you guys mind if I joined in for Rotations or something?

I need to experience some good Zelda play since the ones on FG are killing me from the inside with their badness.

 

[ZombieBran]

I need to experience some good Zelda play since the ones on FG are killing me from the inside with their badness.

You mean FW is not a good approach in neutral?!

 

[Rickster]

You mean FW is not a good approach in neutral?!

Please, Dash Attack is waaaaaaay better...

 

[Fuoujin 2]

Would you guys mind if I joined in for Rotations or something?

I need to experience some good Zelda play since the ones on FG are killing me from the inside with their badness.

I don't plan on playing Zelda.

I'm not going to be using this character in this game.

 

[SBphiloz4]

I don't plan on playing Zelda.

I'm not going to be using this character in this game.

>Me losing to a non-Zelda player using Zelda ; w ;

I'll have to play your Palutena and Zelda again sometime, Fuujin.

 

[ZombieBran]

I don't plan on playing Zelda.

I'm not going to be using this character in this game.

What if they patched her to be distinctly better than Brawl Zelda in every way? (except USmash because we know they'll never give her back that range)

 

[Fuoujin 2]

>Me losing to a non-Zelda player using Zelda ; w ;

I'll have to play your Palutena and Zelda again sometime, Fuujin.

Well everything I know/do with her just transfers over from Brawl, so I know how to use her a little bit.

What if they patched her to be distinctly better than Brawl Zelda in every way? (except USmash because we know they'll never give her back that range)

I lost this amount of optimism in Sakurai long ago.
She would have to get the Pit or Bowser treatment for me to consider using her.

 

[JigglyZelda003]

if they patch her back to mostly brawl Zelda she would be rough gold lol

 

[Rion]

Oh hey @ Fuoujin 2 ! I'll totally play you for a bit if you're still up for it.

Perhaps the lag will be kind this time!

Gonna work on some other stuff actually, perhaps another time!

 

[ZombieBran]

I lost this amount of optimism in Sakurai long ago.
She would have to get the Pit or Bowser treatment for me to consider using her.

"We gave her a recovery and made it a kill move too!
Better nerf just about everything else to make sure she isn't broken!"

 

[Phenomiracle]

Christmas Patchlist for Zelda I made after a series of salty matches I've had with a stupidly good ZSS online:

Melee Fair/Bair
Brawl Nair's autocancel
Brawl Upsmash
Brawl Dsmash
Inescapeable Fsmash
retooled Utilt with functionality resembling Link's Utilt
Storeable Phantom
nonfreefalling Din's Fire
Fanservice side-taunt (the stupid magic fireball ain't cutting it)

Feel free to add/change/comment.

I don't mean to turn these boards into fanpatch.net but I'm curious to hear what you guys would like to see.

 

[ZombieBran]

No those are good (except I like the fireball taunt)

Even just shaving some frames off of the current fair/bair landlag would be great.

 

[SBphiloz4]

I wouldn't mind leaving the Dtilt as it is right now. But Brawl Uair pls, or at least better than the one we have now. DX

Then again, it's Sakurai. He'll probably end up nerfing her thinking that too many people are being taken up by her elevator of destruction. ; w ;

 

[TheDarkKnightNoivern]

Christmas Patchlist for Zelda I made after a series of salty matches I've had with a stupidly good ZSS online:

Melee Fair/Bair
Brawl Nair's autocancel
Brawl Upsmash
Brawl Dsmash
Brawl Dtilt
Inescapeable Fsmash
retooled Utilt with functionality resembling Link's Utilt
Storeable Phantom
nonfreefalling Din's Fire
Fanservice side-taunt (the stupid magic fireball ain't cutting it)

Feel free to add/change/comment.

I don't mean to turn these boards into fanpatch.net but I'm curious to hear what you guys would like to see.

So basically brawl zelda

Also all of my yes to that din's fire. You have no idea how many times I've died accidentally using it when trying to recover

And when you say "fanservice taunt" do you mean palutena or like a zelda reference?

EDIT: One more thing, her speed needs to be buffed, like badly. She should at least be as fast as peach

 

[ZombieBran]

Actually yeah, doesn't her new Dtilt have more range?
I haven't used Brawl Zelda in a while (I am scared to discover that I'll prefer her over Smash 4 Zelda and then using Smash 4 Zelda will be even more depressing since Brawl Zelda is also bad)

 

[Phenomiracle]

So basically brawl zelda

Sm4sh's FW/Dair are her two gamechangers from Brawl, one that make her feel the most different (aside from her pathetic Usmash). Chasing opponents deep offstage with Zelda is no longer suicide.

And when you say "fanservice taunt" do you mean palutena or like a zelda reference?

Meh, either would do.

While she's too classy to poledance, a more coquettish animation wouldn't hurt.

Actually yeah, doesn't her new Dtilt have more range?

You're right, I'd forgotten. I just missed trapping noobs with Brawl's Dtilt.

Removed from my list.

 

[SBphiloz4]

When Lylat Cruise is considered a starter stage in your region. The struggles. <///3

 

[Toadallstar2]

Actually yeah, doesn't her new Dtilt have more range?
I haven't used Brawl Zelda in a while (I am scared to discover that I'll prefer her over Smash 4 Zelda and then using Smash 4 Zelda will be even more depressing since Brawl Zelda is also bad)

I played Brawl just to see the difference and I missed some things. I miss her smashes so much, and endless lag aerials.
But the teleport is sooo bad and slow. She's so slow in general in Brawl. And no Phantom.
Give and take...

 

[ZombieBran]

I played Brawl just to see the difference and I missed some things. I miss her smashes so much, and endless lag aerials.
But the teleport is sooo bad and slow. She's so slow in general in Brawl. And no Phantom.
Give and take...

Phantom is a nerf for me because I used Sheik in Brawl (it was usually modded so Transform was much faster)

 

[Rickster]

Every time I get punished for using the Phantom or miss because of the dead zone, I miss Transform a little more...

I really loved having the option to just switch to an entirely different character if things just weren't working out. And Sheilda was really fun to play...

Oh and the first time I saw the Melee Transform speed, my jaw dropped lol. Much more usable in that game.

 

[BJN39]

For hardcore Zeldas though, it's still a direct buff for Zelda having another move. It was never "good" for Zelda being able to switch to sheik.

Tbh the change was a healthy change for the community too, as one shallow comment would constantly put Zelda down: "Her best move is down B" and that was just garbage I am glad to see gone.

Not that I didn't enjoy sheik and transform play in Brawl, don't get me wrong.

 

[ZombieBran]

I consider Zelda/Sheik in Brawl as one character with a very laggy stance change. It's not a buff or nerf in the end, just a design change (or 3DS hardware decision???)

I just wish Phantom was as good as Bouncing Fish =C

 

[JigglyZelda003]

Zelda walk speed is better than her run. Walking ftw. She already has by far the worst running animation since Bowser tires from melee/brawl.

one change I would like for her though is making phantom a constant object that Zelda can put away or unless he gets destroyed. Cause right now trying to use phantom as a wall is ok, but he goes away so fast its hard to make use of that feature. Or if I mess up where I wanted him to go I have to wait till he poofs away to bring him out again. I think Zelda would gain alot if phantom was changed where he sat out unless unsummoned or destroyed once summoned.

 

[2004Zilla]

But then we'd all live in fear of Luigi.

 

[SBphiloz4]

Oh yeah, when I was facing Rion today, I reflected his Phantom back to him. Then he kicked that Phantom to pieces with a floppy (lightning) kick. That prevented him from using his OWN phantom for 6 seconds.

Just wow. This move is just--