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[Berserker.]

I don't think customs are going to make THAT much of a difference. It's only Palutena that has a completely different playstyle with customs legal. The rest of the characters mostly have the same strategy.

 

[Locuan]

I know next to nothing about custom moves. But I do believe the game plan should stay the same for most characters. Doesn't Ganondorf change quite a bit though?

 

[evmaxy54]

I know next to nothing about custom moves. But I do believe the game plan should stay the same for most characters. Doesn't Ganondorf change quite a bit though?

He can actually recover yeah

I know it's always been this way, but I find it rather funny this thread is classified as a "guide".

This thread is technically a guide

A guide to living SASSY!

 

[Berserker.]

I know next to nothing about custom moves. But I do believe the game plan should stay the same for most characters. Doesn't Ganondorf change quite a bit though?

As far as I know, it's only his recovery options that get better. He also has a ridiculously better up B which works as a KO/OoS option. His wiz drop kick allows him to have less of a crappy time against zoners. Other than that, his gameplan is the same. It's just that he's given more options but his plan is still the same anyway

 

[Locuan]

As far as I know, it's only his recovery options that get better. He also has a ridiculously better up B which works as a KO/OoS option. His wiz drop kick allows him to have less of a crappy time against zoners. Other than that, his gameplan is the same. It's just that he's given more options but his plan is still the same anyway

Ok cool. So it's pretty much Palutena the only one that gets insanely different. Customs just allow for different tools to approach the same plan or create better situations for the character.

 

[Furret]

Yeah, the first one.aren't they the same pokemon?

Nope, first one is Ninetails (I know they are pretty good at naming *sarcasm*), second one is Furret

hi

get the heck out of here you nerd

Okay seriously what the ****. 1 stock 2 minutes? I just heard someone suggesting this. I'm neutral on customs only because some characters become legit stupid with them if they're legalized

Maybe I'll start appreciating customs once I finally go back to hyper arts but idk. Palutena, Villager and ROSALINA are going to be disgusting

I really don't like customs, we already have a game that is really heavy in match up knowledge. Customs just make it worse. In fact out of all the reasons not to do customs (extra lab time, a new rule set, breaking certain characters) match up knowledge is my least favorite. Get ready for Smash 4 coaching hype.

 

[S.F.L.R_9]

Good morning sisters!

Customs are great. They make matches more entertaining and give some characters a chance to shine when they couldn't without them (Samus, Palutena)
If EVO sticks with the custom moves ruleset, I reaaaallly hope we'll see some custom Zeldas. Knowing Zelda, she'll get a shield break with Phantom Breaker and the opponent will fall out of a fully charged fsmash

Though most of all I'm looking forward to seeing how Diddy fares against customs :^) bring on the Luma Lasers

 

[FullMoon]

Okay, this is happening a lot now. I win against someone with Greninja, then suddenly they counterpick to Captain Falcon or Little Mac.

 

[Furret]

Good morning sisters!

Customs are great. They make matches more entertaining and give some characters a chance to shine when they couldn't without them (Samus, Palutena)
If EVO sticks with the custom moves ruleset, I reaaaallly hope we'll see some custom Zeldas. Knowing Zelda, she'll get a shield break with Phantom Breaker and the opponent will fall out of a fully charged fsmash

Though most of all I'm looking forward to seeing how Diddy fares against customs :^) bring on the Luma Lasers

consensus is Zelda will disappear with out reapearing from the game with customs on. I have no clue, I don't have all customs yet

Okay, this is happening a lot now. I win against someone with Greninja, then suddenly they counterpick to Captain Falcon or Little Mac.

captain is just popular, don't think that is actually a group of people out to get you

 

[BJN39]

PS, Kuro kun had said 3 months. (*edit* reiteration: at maximum.) :3 What you saw was probably his spam bot him just glancing in and deciding to cause a stirrup via hi.

Even HE can't resist looking in even though he's supposed to be on hiatus~

As for customs, I'll use then when I play Wii fit, ha customs are like...fun. I don't expect I'd start using any of Zelda's customs in their current design state.

 

[Aunt Jemima]

All of you guys are talking about how great playing with customs will be, yet I've been playing all matches with them a week after 3DS dropped.

 

[SBphiloz4]

I was testing out Zelda's customs against some CPUs and every time I use Phantom 2, it always just seems to pass through the opponent. And IDK if Phantom 3 is much better, since it is so close range and we already have decently powerful close range moves in our arsenal. Vanilla phantom IMO is probably the best when it comes to spacing, but in general, Phantom is kind of a bad move. :/

And don't get me started on Din's Fire's customs.

 

[Locuan]

All of you guys are talking about how great playing with customs will be, yet I've been playing all matches with them a week after 3DS dropped.

That's awesome really. I have not bothered with them since I find them difficult to unlock. And with work etc, it would take up my time. However, if it does happen that they become tournament legal, I will start unlocking them for the characters I use and seeing their applications.

 

[WolfieXVII ❂]

All of you guys are talking about how great playing with customs will be, yet I've been playing all matches with them a week after 3DS dropped.

Same, they outgrew their novelty a while ago
I'll only use one or two customs with characters, they aren't really a big deal imo. I used to be amazed by the idea of customs but it's only minimal changes.
List tyme!
- Upper Cutter, Jump Inhale
- Regular Boomerang, Whirling Leap, Meteor Bombs* (depends on the MU)
Shocking Orbitars
Jellyfish
Power Vision, Back Slash leap
Speed Thunder
Most vanilla characters are good without customs though
Upper Cutter though~
I'd take it over Final Cutter any day

 

[SBphiloz4]

K E N S T O P H O A R D I N G

Back to customs talk, I can definitely see that when Evo comes along, and the community has had about 4 months of practice with customs, Diddy would definitely see a little less usage. But dem Rosalina customs, I bet soooo many people will start using her. :/

I predict that there will not be a Palutena in Top 8 as well, because I don't think 2 stock works in her favour as well as super defensive custom characters such as the aforementioned Rosalina. We'll see if my prediction holds water. :^)

 

[Furret]

We'll see if my prediction holds water. :^)

hnnng, it just passes though

 

[Lavani]

One's outlook on customs depends a lot on what your character gets out of them. With Dedede and Greninja they're whatever, with Meta Knight and Jigglypuff I literally get nothing, but with Rosalina I have a much more complete character with more options. I would imagine most people playing in a customs environment are only going to change one or two moves tops from default on their set though, the default moves are the best for something like 65% of slot options.

Back to customs talk, I can definitely see that when Evo comes along, and the community has had about 4 months of practice with customs, Diddy would definitely see a little less usage. But dem Rosalina customs, I bet soooo many people will start using her. :/

I predict that there will not be a Palutena in Top 8 as well, because I don't think 2 stock works in her favour as well as super defensive custom characters such as the aforementioned Rosalina. We'll see if my prediction holds water. :^)

I bet nobody will start using her because the smash community apparently can't tolerate any character whose gameplan isn't "run forward and press buttons"

I agree that evo's gonna want to change the ruleset up though, 2 stock 5 minute is baaaaad and promotes camping.

 

[FullMoon]

Guys, I've been accepted into college!

Spoiler: Seizure warning

 

[Furret]

Guys, I've been accepted into college!

Spoiler

where? and ow my eyes

 

[FullMoon]

where? and ow my eyes

Well I live in Brazil so I doubt you'd know the place even if I did tell you =P

 

[Kenith]

Guys, I've been accepted into college!

That gif...

 

[Phenomiracle]

Anyone heard of the Chapel Hill shooting? Three Muslim college students, two of them husband and wife, shot dead yesterday evening near the University of North Carolina.

Unreal.

 

[WolfieXVII ❂]

Guys, I've been accepted into college!

Congrats!

Spoiler: seizureific

Might want to spoiler that gif m8

Anyone heard of the Chapel Hill shooting? Three Muslim college students, two of them husband and wife, shot dead yesterday evening near the University of North Carolina.

Unreal.

It's truly sad. Three promising lives ended abruptly due to irrational hatred.

 

[Mocha]

Okay, this is happening a lot now. I win against someone with Greninja, then suddenly they counterpick to Captain Falcon or Little Mac.

Funny cause I have the same thing happen to me. And if I win with Zelda, they go Zelda dittos on me as if to prove who is sassier something

 

[FullMoon]

All right I spoiled the gif, I don't really much problem with flashing lights so I kinda forget that there are people who do =P

But hey giving people seizures is the best way of celebrating.

Anyone heard of the Chapel Hill shooting? Three Muslim college students, two of them husband and wife, shot dead yesterday evening near the University of North Carolina.

Unreal.

I hadn't heard of it, geez...

This reminds me that while I was sleeping today, there was some shooting right in front of my house. I heard the gunshots in the middle of the night and it gave me quite the scare. It took me a while to relax and go back to sleep.

 

[Lavani]

Okay, this is happening a lot now. I win against someone with Greninja, then suddenly they counterpick to Captain Falcon or Little Mac.

What motivates someone to counterpick Gimpmaster Greninja™ with the most gimpable character in the game?

 

[Mocha]

What motivates someone to counterpick Gimpmaster Greninja™ with the most gimpable character in the game?

The hopes of killing as fast as possible, preferably before they are gimped.

 

[FullMoon]

What motivates someone to counterpick Gimpmaster Greninja™ with the most gimpable character in the game?

To be fair it can be pretty hard to take Little Mac off the ground. Once we do though...

 

[SBphiloz4]

>When scrubs think switching to Little Mac would be an auto-win for them

>When they realize their scrubbyness but still call you out

 

[Lavani]

To be fair it can be pretty hard to take Little Mac off the ground. Once we do though...

Yeah, it's not like Greninja hard counters Mac (imo the matchup is closer to even if anything), I just find the idea of the counterpick amusing.

Also everyone on FG has a pocket Falcon if they don't already main Falcon, rule of thumb.

 

[FullMoon]

I think Little Mac is 60:40 in Greninja's favor since Little Mac just plain loses when he's not on the ground. Plus Greninja's ground combat isn't bad either and we do have a projectile and that great dash grab.

It's very fun to bait Little Mac's side-b by using shurikens, shield, then send him flying with a Smash attack.

 

[Rizen]

Little Mac just plain loses when he's not on the ground.

The story of Mac's life.


I think tourneys should be able to have custom events but the standard rules should not allow custom moves. Some customs drastically alter how you must react to a character and change up the metagame. 3 customs for 4 special moves on 50+ characters is a lot to account for.

 

[warionumbah2]

MK beats LM harder than Leffen beat Chillendoodoo.

 

[Lavani]

Little Mac just plain loses when he's not on the ground.

 

[Furret]

MK beats LM harder than Leffen beat Chillendoodoo.

My B

I like how a lot of the new characters can wall jump and crawl, why the **** can rosalina crawl? and duck hunt hasn't even jumped before getting in smash bros, yet he can wall jump

 

[Fernosaur]

Are customs gonna be legal, then? Where is this custom talk coming from?

Anyone heard of the Chapel Hill shooting? Three Muslim college students, two of them husband and wife, shot dead yesterday evening near the University of North Carolina.

Unreal.

That's really bad. And even worse after this happened. It looks like anti-Muslim hate crimes are gonna be big this year at this rate :/

 

[Lavani]

I like how a lot of the new characters can wall jump and crawl, why the **** can rosalina crawl? and duck hunt hasn't even jumped before getting in smash bros

Rosalina's crawl baffles me; from a design standpoint I think they were intending to give her a way to manipulate Luma without coming to a stop (crouching/crawling makes Luma sink to the ground) but it's such a weird looking animation and not something I expected the character to get.

I'm still bitter that Luigi and DK can't walljump.

 

[evmaxy54]

MK beats LM harder than Leffen beat Chillendoodoo.

Vid pls I need this

 

[Furret]

Are customs gonna be legal, then? Where is this custom talk coming from?

you should visit the main page more often, http://smashboards.com/threads/proposed-evo-2015-smash-4-ruleset-customs-possible.390789/

Rosalina's crawl baffles me; from a design standpoint I think they were intending to give her a way to manipulate Luma without coming to a stop (crouching/crawling makes Luma sink to the ground) but it's such a weird looking animation and not something I expected the character to get.

it's not really an animation as it is someone sliding their butt on the ground

Edit:

I'm still bitter that Luigi and DK can't walljump.

ya those two characters would love that

 

[JigglyZelda003]

Rosie butt scooting is so janky, I think almost everyone should be able to crawl except like Rob and Kirby like body people