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Lavani

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tbh I kinda forgot FEW was a thing

maybe I'll get back to it, I was kind of excited for Azura

Niles' skill looks broke but Niles himself looks trash. Even if you wanted an archer with staves just use Sakura.

I feel like Oboro's C1 is the kind of thing that could've been nice, but ends up being pretty useless because weapon advantage and pair up attack both exist for easy stun gauge reveals anyway.

I was planning on starting up one of either Tales of the Abyss or Xenoblade 1 tonight though, that'd probably occupy me for awhile. Though I both feel like I've said that before and feel like I'm probably more likely to end up playing more Mega Man games instead.
 

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It's gotten to the point that I have to change forum styles to read Cress's font color, lol.

Niles has a fantastic luck-based skill that he can't use since he has one of the lowest luck stats in the game. 55 luck at level 99 makes him tie with Tiki, only beating out Frederick and Robin. He has a lot of speed but the rest of his stats are pretty mediocre, so he may be the new worst archer. For some reason he can use staves however so that's a redeeming quality.
What does it do? From what you and Lavani said, sounds like that's a goto move for Caeda.

How does Azura's sing ability translate? Is she different from Oboro any?
 

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Well, this happened when I went to YouTube.

I think this is the third or fourth time the developers have told us about Fjorm. I can't wait for a video on the weapon refinery considering they issued a notice on the in-game news board about how to access it. Meanwhile, Sacred Seals where apparently nobody needed to be reminded on how to access it by beating the first intermission chapter.

Quick Edit: The title kind of makes it seem like a Discovery channel parody video.
 
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What does it do? From what you and Lavani said, sounds like that's a goto move for Caeda.
Chance for bonus damage on crits, based on the character's Luck

I know nothing about the actual multiplier, but just based on that description I feel like it has to be a mandatory skill for everyone.

How does Azura's sing ability translate? Is she different from Oboro any?
Read in a tweet that her C1 will restore musou/awk to nearby allies. I feel like that's probably a thing that would be best suited to multiplayer, though being able to direct AI-controlled characters does mean it'd be easy to set up playing solo still.
 

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Chance for bonus damage on crits, based on the character's Luck

I know nothing about the actual multiplier, but just based on that description I feel like it has to be a mandatory skill for everyone.
I remember you posting the stats of the characters in FEW, so wouldn't Lucina be a great user of it considering her Luck is high if I recall correctly. It'd be hilarious if someone could crit with every hit.
 

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I remember you posting the stats of the characters in FEW, so wouldn't Lucina be a great user of it considering her Luck is high if I recall correctly. It'd be hilarious if someone could crit with every hit.
6th highest Luck, yeah. Tied with Takumi, lower than Anna, Caeda, Marx, Marth, and Elise. Criticals in FEW are weak point smashes in HW, so it's not something that happens every hit.

Luna was also Luck-based, but even on characters with garbage Luck like Camilla and Frederick it had a massive effect, so I imagine everyone's going to want this one too.
 

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6th highest Luck, yeah. Tied with Takumi, lower than Anna, Caeda, Marx, Marth, and Elise. Criticals in FEW are weak point smashes in HW, so it's not something that happens every hit.

Luna was also Luck-based, but even on characters with garbage Luck like Camilla and Frederick it had a massive effect, so I imagine everyone's going to want this one too.
Oh, okay. Oh! Don't Lianna and Rowan have stronger criticals from what I remember of your testings? Well, compared to Ryoma or someone else.
 

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Is she different from Oboro any?
Azura and Oboro have completely different movesets thankfully.
Read in a tweet that her C1 will restore musou/awk to nearby allies. I feel like that's probably a thing that would be best suited to multiplayer, though being able to direct AI-controlled characters does mean it'd be easy to set up playing solo still.
Sing also restores Awakening/Special to whoever you'e paired up with so you don't have to cancel the pair up, Sing for your partner, then re-pair up with them which helps. Azura doesn't restore any of her gauges though so double specials feel like they take a bit longer to pull off with her since her partner will be gaining their special faster than her even if you only play as Azura.
So yeah, just another thing to make pair up even more powerful than it already is.
 

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Oh, okay. Oh! Don't Lianna and Rowan have stronger criticals from what I remember of your testings? Well, compared to Ryoma or someone else.
I don't remember how thoroughly I tested, but crit damage looks roughly like

White crits
S: Rowan/Lianna, Marth/Celica
A: Sword/Lance/Dragonstone(?)
B: Bow*/Tome/Axe

Gold crits
Same except Lyn is SS

*Archer C5 and C6 actually continue during crits and I think are the only attacks that do this, so archers do actually compensate their damage enough to be on par with A tier, despite the actual crit's damage being B.
 

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Ehh, i'm not sure how much i'd agree. Mainly because i feel that One Piece has gone on for way too long. 800 chapters and that's only 65% of the story? C'mon. That was last i checked btw. Don't know how many chapters there are now. The characters are likable though. But, even with the characters being likable, i do feel it's too late to start One Piece. Whether it be anime or manga, there's just too much catching up to do, with no end in sight.
But hey, if the One Piece just turns out to be a slip of paper that says "it was just a prank bro", then that would make the wait worth it.
We all know Jack Sparrow has the One Piece anyway.
To be fair, OP has one of the most well done worldbuilding and forshadowing there is.
Luffy's father and haki were forshadowed in one of the earliest chapters/episodes there are, right when luffy escapes from buggy the clown. 400+ Chapters before it got first mentioned (numbers wary, been a while.)

And I felt exactly the same as you. "It's too late."
But I just started anyways, because... there must be something onto these high praises it recieved. And being almost constant #1 of running series must be because of something. I mean... I know people who complain that they want a 2nd season of an anime, but I rarely hear, that they complain about massive things to still watch.

Anyways...
People met at the beginning of the entire adventure tie into current events/characters/ect. They evolve, breathe, are not just simple background characters. If we talk about only the manga, OP is by far superior to many many other manga's, in the shounen genre that is. Every character has believable reasons why they do things how they do it. Powers are used creatively, battles are not won because "I am stronger" or "I have more powerful form". Deaths have meaning, and don't get rectonned/cheapened. Struggles are hard, and are not overcome without scars left. Simple soldiers can still pose threats for some of our crewmembers or the cast, and haki is balanced out by the fact, that the enemy can use it too.
Best example is
Current arc, luffy vs Mochi guy. Haki should be able to damage Logia users (Powers like turning into smoke/fire/wax/...), yet luffy's attacks do nothing. It turns out, that he uses his observation haki, to perfectly shape his body into the exact form, to avoid his punches, making it appear as if they go through him.
And well, it's still very based on taste, but... Fairy Tail got sour for me, because of the final arc, as you mentioned too, friendship is just a bit too eh.
If you -really- don't care, and want to know -why-, look into the spoiler ahead.
If not, then blissfully continue to watch it, and keep enjoying it, and never click that spoiler.
Death is almost as meaningless as in Dragonball. In the last arc, we get 4 "sacrifices", that suddenly gets reverted, or is not dead at all? I mean, the first time was okay. But 3 times back to back?!
Unexplained powerups, ridicioulous powerscaling, and an asspull after another.
And when I thought, its finally getting interesting, using an (asspulled, but still interesting) plan, that atleast had -some- tie-ins to previous arcs... nope. It didn't worked, and just made the enemy stronger, so that only deus-ex-natsu can defeat the totally super evil.
And EVERYONE GETS A REDEMPTION STORY!
And EVERY NEW CHARACTER is just a missunderstood, poor poor pawn, that got mad & powerful, because they got misstreated, and some unnamed intangleble evil middle adged adult, or strict father was the bad.

I just -really- hate the last arc, because it made LESS sense, than Bleach's. And that was already... very dissapointing.

So, even aside the final Arc, I'd stiiiill rate OP higher objectively. I hardly can say that you -should- like it, because of x, y. But you did said characters are a strong factor for you, and... aside of maybe early Naruto, where I still can clearly remember almost every name of the characters, I can't think of a better character focussed worldbuilding manga than OP.

Maybe Boku no hero will pick up, its very promising so far after all.
 
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ok I decided to update

apparently they fixed the play time capping at 99:59, mine jumped immediately to 120 hours

but after I select my save, the controls stop working on the following menu after the DLC unlock announcements and I can't actually play the game

back to tales of the abyss mega man 7

edit: I like the elevators in XC2
 
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but after I select my save, the controls stop working on the following menu after the DLC unlock announcements and I can't actually play the game
Yup, its FEW alright if the patch supposedly fixes bugs but instead breaks the game even more.
That happened while I was playing as well, I think on that same elevator too.

Edit: More FEW junk
  • So Azura is actually voiced by Rena Strober. She sounds so different...
  • I'm taking a look at the Breaker skills. Not sure if you can equip Breakers on the other side of the weapon triangle yet (but if you can't you could still do something like put Anti-Triangle on a sword then put Axebreaker on it to have a weapon that's in a way effective across the entire triangle) but Tomebreaker is sticking out to me as a good option, at least for Sakura since I'm working on her weapon rn. She should always have Topsy-Turvy so her biggest threats then become high-Res units. That would be Pegasus Knights (which aren't a problem since they're weak to bows) and mages. Depending on how well Breaker skills play out, it could be a great option. For other units, Swordbreaker could be a nice go-to option since swords are everywhere.
  • I heard that when awakening prf weapons (or whatever using the Opus items on prfs is called), you get the boost in damage immediately provided that you have True Power unlocked already. Less random KO grinding is gud.
  • Fury Builder sounds nice but something tells me that it's garbage, probably the fact that you only need 2,500 KO's to unlock it.
 
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Morning all. How's everyone doing? :4zelda:

Just helped my dad with some Christmas shopping today; so I'm probably just gonna snooze tomorrow.

Buddhahobo Buddhahobo I did notice the Skill changes; yeah the Restart Skill does seem like it will get hit pretty badly. I will probably try and run something else like Hazy Flame since I do have Mai's other skill Aroma.

But I will admit, I'm actually happy that Bastion is getting buffed now. I've always wanted to try and make a viable deck for him, now I think I'm able to thanks to these skill buffs. Hopefully I can make myself a great one for him, be thankful though that Cyber Angels are getting nerfed again; now instead of running both MAR and Dakini, they can only choose to have 1 of each or 2 of only MAR or Dakini. Trying to have Lv. 40 Bonz spawn is also a nightmare in itself; I've just been constantly running into Lv. 30 and 20, and what's worse is that my Hazy Flame deck is just bricking nonstop; it's getting aggrivating. smh, so I've been trying to get Paradox's Labyrinth Builder skill, it'll be one way to get through.

 

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I saw Last Jedi yesterday. It was an amazing. It actually had it's own identity unlike Force Awakens, which was just a retelling of a New Hope. Have no idea where all the hate was coming from, but once i saw that angry Star Wars fans are petition to have Disney remove Last Jedi from the canon, i came to the conclusion that most Star Wars fans are among the worst fanbases.


But I just started anyways, because... there must be something onto these high praises it recieved. And being almost constant #1 of running series must be because of something.
Yeah, i was curious too. But after 17 episodes, i just felt that it wasn't worth. I enjoyed it, i just didn't want to commit. The worldbuilding is pretty great though, and i do enjoy the pirate genre (Pirates of the Caribbean is my 2nd favorite movie series, being beaten only by Star Wars).

Though i disagree with it being ranked the #1 shounen. Especially when My Hero Academia and JoJo's Bizarre Adventure exist (with JoJo being my #1 favorite anime). I know JoJo has been around longer than One Piece, but since it's structured into Parts (kinda like a book series), it's pretty easy to catch up. Especially since Parts 7 and 8 are part of an alternate universe so you could technically start with Part 7 if you really wanted. JoJo's also very entertaining. There are some ***pulls (mainly, most of what Part 2 Joseph does), but they're all done in clever ways that make you go "damn, that was really cool". My Hero Academia has the best pacing i've seen from a shounen, at least in terms of anime. One season of 13-25 episodes a year is great. And both series have amazing and entertaining battles, well-written arcs, as well as good characters.\

On a side note, it's thanks to JoJo that i've gone and listened to some really good songs like Tusk and Another One Bites the Dust.

Where's my Part 5 anime, David Production? They're about to work on a new Captain Tsubasa anime. Meanwhile, in Part 5:


Fairy Tail got sour for me, because of the final arc, as you mentioned too, friendship is just a bit too eh.
Yeah, i will agree that the final arc was meh (not the worst arc though if you count a certain anime-only arc). In fact, in general, the latter half of Fairy Tail's story was a 6.5/10 (the story throughout the entire series is a 7/10). However, and i will strongly stand by this, the likability of the characters boosts Fairy Tail's story to an 8.5/10. I've said it before but characters are more important than the story.
 

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Though i disagree with it being ranked the #1 shounen. Especially when My Hero Academia and JoJo's Bizarre Adventure exist (with JoJo being my #1 favorite anime). I know JoJo has been around longer than One Piece, but since it's structured into Parts (kinda like a book series), it's pretty easy to catch up. Especially since Parts 7 and 8 are part of an alternate universe so you could technically start with Part 7 if you really wanted. JoJo's also very entertaining. There are some ***pulls (mainly, most of what Part 2 Joseph does), but they're all done in clever ways that make you go "damn, that was really cool". My Hero Academia has the best pacing i've seen from a shounen, at least in terms of anime. One season of 13-25 episodes a year is great. And both series have amazing and entertaining battles, well-written arcs, as well as good characters.\
Isn't JoJo Seinen? Been a while since it was using the shounen genre, especially after part 6. ( Also, to part5: "How does King Crimson work?" ;D )
And JoJo is after all the inspiration for One-Piece, so not too weird to compare the two in earlier stages.
It's just hard to compare it side by side, since JoJo is more episodic with nods, whilst OP is a long tie-in.
Especially with JoJo using mostly the real world as basis.

Yeah, i will agree that the final arc was meh (not the worst arc though if you count a certain anime-only arc). In fact, in general, the latter half of Fairy Tail's story was a 6.5/10 (the story throughout the entire series is a 7/10). However, and i will strongly stand by this, the likability of the characters boosts Fairy Tail's story to an 8.5/10. I've said it before but characters are more important than the story.
Eh, objectively seen, I disagree. I mean, the job description of "critic" wouldn't excist, if only one particular part of something alone can outbeat a well rounded overall better work.
Subjectively seen, I know and can respect your opinion, but as someone who has actually read through 800+ chapters of OP and read the finale of Fairy Tail, I just... can't even closely compare the two. Subjectively I'd put Boku no hero clearly over OP aswell, but objectively, Boku hasn't done enough yet to topple giants like early JoJo and OP, or heck, even Naruto.

Same reason why I won't put my personal Favourite, One Punch Man over any of those, because its objectively very strong in message delivering, character design and humor, but lacks in worldbuilding and other parts.


Edit: And I meant with #1, the shounen jump rankings, in which OP, with minor exceptions, topped almost constantly. Boku no hero and Black Clover (and break issues) gave them some trouble recently, but it still stayed top3 almost anytime, and returned over and over to the top.
 
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I mean... I did liked it at the beginning too, but it frustrated me at the end.
It's still worth reading tho, imo. The artstyle is really great.

But then again, I only read the manga's, since Naruto became filler 2.0, and OP streched one chapters into entire episodes...
Still regard OP as better.
Perhaps I'll grow to dislike it too, but as of episode 16 I'm still in love with it.
We talking the entire series, 1, X, or 2?

Regardless, yes, it is very worth it. It is one of the greatest JRPGs of all time and, as of 2, the series is now my favorite video game series of all time, dethroning the original king which was Fire Emblem.

Regarding 1 and 2, the stories are simply beautiful, always keeping you interested. Personal preference for me is that 2's story is better than 1, because, as good as 1's story is, there is filler in it and the characters have varying degrees of relevancy (but they're all still very likable). 2 doesn't have that issue, so not only did i like 2's story more, i liked it's characters more.

X's story isn't that good but the story was never the focus in X. Instead, it was the gameplay and characters. While i've never played it, i hear X has excellent gameplay and the characters have a lot of depth to them.

Each Xenoblade game easily gets you 100+ hours of content. While 1 and 2's stories can be finished within 80-90 hours, there's still a lot of content. X is the only one with an actual post-game (1 and 2 simply take you to right before the final boss) but there are plenty of things to do. From quests, taking on the Unique Monsters (Tyrants, as they are called in X) and superbosses (superbosses don't appear until the final chapter), to finding all of the Heart-to-Hearts (which are similar to Fire Emblem's Support Conversations), to simply exploring new places. X's world is the biggest, so it has the most exploration. The game rewards you for simply exploring by giving you gold, EXP, and other things upon reaching a Landmark. Landmarks serve as skip-travel points so backtracking is never an issue. If you die, you return to the last Landmark you visited. Speaking of, death doesn't punish you. You never lose anything by dying, which is very fair, considering it's possible to run into high-level monsters in early areas.

Combat-wise, the games are the same but different. I can't speak for X here as i've never played but 1 and 2 have great combat, with 2 being better at it. 1 is the more simpler, while 2 is the more complex. I'm sure you've seen the basics. Battles are real-time, with an emphasis on positioning. They can be a bit slow at first but once you start getting the hang of it, they become fun. The key difference between 1, X, and 2 is that in 2, you can't auto-attack while moving. This doesn't bother me at all, because 2's combat is way more strategic and deeper than 1's combat. 1's combat is still good though.

The music is God-tier. 2 has the best soundtrack of 2017, and i will fight anyone on that. Beyond that, Xenoblade Chronicles as a whole has the best music out of any Nintendo franchise. X does have the weakest soundtrack of the three games but it's still a great listen (though opinion on X as a whole is divided among the Xenoblade community)

My ratings
  • Xenoblade Chronicles: 9/10
  • Xenoblade Chronicles 2: 10/10 (it's also my GOTY 2017)
I meant the original on the Wii. Anyway, thanks for convincing me. I was trying to convince myself to get it, but a part of me was nagging about the unfamiliar JRPG elements to me (I don't recall ever playing a JRPG.)
 

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Perhaps I'll grow to dislike it too, but as of episode 16 I'm still in love with it.

I meant the original on the Wii. Anyway, thanks for convincing me. I was trying to convince myself to get it, but a part of me was nagging about the unfamiliar JRPG elements to me (I don't recall ever playing a JRPG.)
For the 1st thing:
Eh, its fun, and the fights and music are amazing, especially in the anime.
I just disliked the end, but it doesn't mean its not worth the journey. Definitely don't stop!

As for the latter part, I can only recommend Xenoblade, no matter which of the games. Although, don't start with X, since you will aprecciate the references to older stuff more once you got 1 down. Or 2.

Also, I am pretty hyped about 2 now, if its as good as Armagon makes it out to be! Can't wait for christmas... only three days!
 

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Isn't JoJo Seinen?
It's probably both though tbh, i'm not too familiar with the Seinen genre. No one's ever explained it to me what it means. Part 7 wasn't as shounen though. Don't know about Part 8, since i haven't started on it and i'm waiting for it to finish so people can color in the pages. The JoJo manga is best read in color.

Eh, objectively seen, I disagree. I mean, the job description of "critic" wouldn't excist, if only one particular part of something alone can outbeat a well rounded overall better work.
I mean.....even the word of a critic isn't the law otherwise, that terrible Kotaku review of Xenoblade 2 would be an objective fact. It depends on what you value more. You may rate One Piece higher than One Punch Man objectively because the former does more worldbuilding, but to another critic, worldbuilding may not be as important. Which is why i don't feel that objectiveness is an actual thing. Two critics may review the same thing but have different views on it. I do respect your opinion though.

Perhaps I'll grow to dislike it too, but as of episode 16 I'm still in love with it.

I meant the original on the Wii. Anyway, thanks for convincing me. I was trying to convince myself to get it, but a part of me was nagging about the unfamiliar JRPG elements to me (I don't recall ever playing a JRPG.)
The Wii version is the superior version of Xenoblade Chronicles. It's also the hardest to find. If you have a Wii U, you can download it off the eShop. You can also get the New 3DS port but that version takes a noticeable hit to it's resolution, though it doesn't make it unplayable.
 

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I mean.....even the word of a critic isn't the law otherwise, that terrible Kotaku review of Xenoblade 2 would be an objective fact. It depends on what you value more. You may rate One Piece higher than One Punch Man objectively because the former does more worldbuilding, but to another critic, worldbuilding may not be as important. Which is why i don't feel that objectiveness is an actual thing. Two critics may review the same thing but have different views on it. I do respect your opinion though.
The thing is, people make legit points, why something is great/not great in an aspect. There is a general guideline, a general concensus.
I mean, if it weren't, restaurants would play more rng than we in Fe-heroes, to get a 5* rating, serving only what the critic likes to eat.

And please... Kotaku wasn't a video game critic site since its conception. I mean, there was even the whole gamergate business, where writers gave bad games a better score than pokemon, just because they knew the people, or had "more" with them.

But I digress. Personal opinions are fine, and as long as you know what you want, you can enjoy a 7/10 game more than a 10/10 game.

Like, mario odyssey is by far a all around better game than Fe-Warriors, but I still enjoy the grindy musou style game far more than platformers.

Objectively I'd still rate them as Mario higher than Warriors, despite my preferences.


Edit: A pretty good talking point came from Dunkey even, despite only roughly being about the current topic.
He talks about subjective ratings, instead of objective ones.
 
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Ok, got FEW working.

Aqua's cool. C1 is actually amazing - just like staves, her support rank increases with all affected characters, but unlike staves there's no limit to how much she can use it, aside from the buffed character having full musou/awk already (you don't lose your C1 bar in this case, though). It runs on a bar that charges (slowly) by dealing damage. Unlike most bar-based moves though, musou attacks do fill it. Since she can just feed meter to the reserve character in a pair up, she can pretty much vomit pair up musous everywhere if you're primarily using her, while also farming supports. Her attacks and animations are a lot prettier on the Switch, but I still like most of them on 3DS. C3 and C5 are both fairly quick, lagless, and great for clearing; C5 is also excellent for officers.
(edit2: C6 looked like the kind of move that would have invincibility, but it surprisingly doesn't. I like it, but C3 and C5 are so good already that I rarely find it useful)

I misunderstood how Oboro worked; I thought Counter was her C1, not her skill. Instead she has a C1 tornado that vacuums everything in. Seems like a pretty nice button for clearing, especially since she doesn't need to press any normals to get to it. Her attacks are pretty fast, notably having a quick C4 and lagless C5. Haven't played her much, but she seems pretty fun, although possibly like a discount Aqua except not actually discount because they cost the same and came in the same pack l0l

Zero gets paired up with Aqua and sung to a lot. Though actually, his skill makes crits ridiculous; I haven't seen the skill fail yet from a lv60 Zero, nor have I seen him fail to kill anything with a Steel Bow (is this actually full-blown Lethality?). If he ends up enabling any character to consistently oneshot things with crits, that'll be shaking up my tier list a fair bit, since crit damage differences made up a large chunk of the difference in damage output between characters.
(edit: I'm seeing it fail after sticking it on Aqua. Not sure what the rate is, my initial guess was that it'd be something like "activation%=Luck/2" and that seems maybe right but my sample size is too small still)
(edit2: It's not an instant kill, but the damage multiplier is huge. Somewhere in the realm of 3~5x)

Do Hero weapons with slots/stars drop? The fact that a 0* one has twice the attack of a 5* Brave weapon makes me think no, but idk
 
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Played Brawlout today. Oooh boy, it's bad. Hitstun is atrocious; it takes so long before you can act again. It is stupidly easy to edgeguard as Drifter. If you get knocked off stage and Drifter's edgeguarding, gg, there's literally nothing you can do. None of the characters have any soul. They're just.....fighters. The music and stages are pretty lame. I was playing with a friend so the only good thing to come out of this was ironic enjoyment.

LordTakeo LordTakeo that was actually a pretty good video and i now actually do agree more with your points on objective vs subjective. Though i personally don't think objectiveness is as important as subjectivity.
 

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After playing more...definitely like Aqua, still unsure about Oboro. She feels good to play as, and I feel like she probably hits really hard (mine's lv63 and her weapon is 80 attack, but she isn't hitting like a wet cloth), but I've had officers teching out of her C4, dropping combos because weird things keep happening during C5/C6, and C1's damage looks really low...though it hasn't messed anything up yet, but I imagine she's going to annoy me more when I take her to higher level maps.

I have no idea how Niles's skill damage works. Aqua went from tickling Marx/Elise to snapping them in half, but against Sakura her damage barely went up at all when it procced. Random damage increase, maybe?
(edit: I think in Sakura's case I just popped it early in an arena map, since you can't drop them below half HP until a certain point in their spawn dialogue. The damage increase is huge and this skill is going to make high Luck characters even better than Luna already made them.)

I need to find a good map for farming Aqua for her drops, too.
 
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LordTakeo LordTakeo that was actually a pretty good video and i now actually do agree more with your points on objective vs subjective. Though i personally don't think objectiveness is as important as subjectivity.
Well, its important to be objective, -for- people to be able to pick and choose whats in the game.

You saying "character design/development/ect is really good, if you enjoy that, its a great read!" Is a very good summarization of the good parts of the story. But its only one part, there lies the problem.

But when for excample, someone -really- hates a specific thing, and wouldn't ever touch anything with it, he likely wants to see, how and if this is present in it in some way shape or form.
Thats here objective ratings are important.

Both have their merits, for sure.
 
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She does for her C6 and musou

She even does the dances for her musou, with it being random whether you get the hoshido or nohr version. Not that I'll ever have a reason to use that (and closeups on faces are pretty horrifying on 3DS anyway), but it's a nice touch.
 
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I saw Last Jedi yesterday. It was an amazing. It actually had it's own identity unlike Force Awakens, which was just a retelling of a New Hope. Have no idea where all the hate was coming from, but once i saw that angry Star Wars fans are petition to have Disney remove Last Jedi from the canon, i came to the conclusion that most Star Wars fans are among the worst fanbases.
I thought TLJ was great too but when I left the theater, I kinda knew that this movie would be divisive as hell
since this a huge middle finger to all the theories that fans came up with from TFA.

also, the movie wasn't perfect. when you think about it more, it gets worse but it's not a bad movie. i'd still give it a solid 8/10, 9/10 if i were minding my first impressions only

the plot kinda felt like it was all over the place. finn's (my favorite character from TFA) plot in the movie was a complete waste of time. i completely understand the theme of failure but wtf. at least execute it right. it didn't feel like failure due to the empire outsmarting them. it felt like failure due to straight-up stupidity on the resistance's/finn's part. the purple haired leader was also being stupid, but she did have the best moment in the movie, since she wasn't telling poe her plans. if she told her plans EARLIER instead of being a total dumb *****, majority of the resistance members would have survived the retreat to the salt planet. rose (the asian one) comes off as some random star wars fan who won a contest to be apart of the movie's starring cast. her romance with finn (or chemistry with john boyega) looked hella forced. imo, that **** was the worst romance plot i've seen in star wars history. not even exaggerating. the comedy, well.... it's OK to have comedy in star wars. star wars has some sprinkled comedy here and there with the past installments but i feel like they overdid it a bit with this one

now, there are some criticisms that i didn't agree with that most fans pointed out. for one, i am perfectly fine with how luke was depicted. hell, this is probably my favorite iteration of luke only because he had the same mentality (not really but when it comes to the jedi) as kreia (from KOTOR 2) which was cool because i'm all for some parallels and call backs to those games. what i found weird though was in spite of luke's insistence that the jedi would end, the ending on TLJ kinda... er... sort of ****s all over that when he claims that rey is the last jedi. maybe he didn't mean it in a "literal" sense and maybe he thought that rey could bring about a new kind of jedi that wouldn't be as dumb and as dehumanizing as the previous jedi order. idk. the porgis or whatever those things are, i had no issues with. they didn't have any relevance or role in the movie and they didn't overstay their welcome so it was okay for me that they were in the movie. as for how the movie depicts the force or introduces new tricks with the forces, i'm perfectly okay with what they did since it actually makes sense. it DEFINITELY beats that midichlorian bull**** that george lucas came up with in the prequels. i didn't mind the way they killed off admiral ackbar. idk why people were pissy over that one. actually, i didn't mind how this movie screamed, "THIS ISN'T A SKYWALKER MOVIE. THIS ISN'T LIKE THE PREVIOUS MOVIES. THIS IS ITS OWN ORIGINAL TRILOGY AND ITS OWN ORIGINAL STORY." it was the complete anti-thesis of what TFA was to the star wars franchise

this movie took a lot of risks and for me at least, i think it was mostly fine. if the movie wanted the best possible reaction from fans though, it should have probably targeted that golden mean between risk and safety of preserving the star wars lore




edit: oh, one more nitpick but why the hell is hux a comic relief in this movie and why is brienne of tarth (phazma) still useless?
 
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One of my closest friends is a huge star wars fan and he said that The Last Jedi was bad and didn't need to exist, so make of that what you will


As for Heroes stuff, I think I'm going to have Florina be my second +10 project (so Caeda and Florina will both be ongoing projects). I like ha a lot, so I'll give her the whole Berkut's Lance and DC mage bait set. I don't have a Tsubaki for QR (rip me), so that'll have to wait. I regret sending home all those Florinas now tho

wtf is up with me and low tier flier gorls
 
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Do Hero weapons with slots/stars drop? The fact that a 0* one has twice the attack of a 5* Brave weapon makes me think no, but idk
Well, fully unlocking Takumi's weapon probably answered that question well enough



what's even the point of this, there isn't a difficulty increase to warrant it. Aqua's still destroying lv80+ history maps with a 180 atk spear, this is just overkill.

edit: fully upgraded Aqua's spear, I haven't had anything live long enough for me to crit them now
even the end of stage fights die to C5
 
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Do Hero weapons with slots/stars drop? The fact that a 0* one has twice the attack of a 5* Brave weapon makes me think no, but idk
Just in case you want confirmation, they do indeed drop (however they seem to be incredibly rare). So I may just get a few Hero weapons and use those because I'm too lazy to build up every prf weapon. They have the same max damage anyways, the only thing I'm missing out on is no damage decrease when using -slayer skills afaik.
With that said though, I already enhanced Sakura's prf and now everything is dead oops. Getting her prf upgraded is fine though since she needs Topsy Turvy and none of the other archers are going to be using it, so she kinda needs her own bow either way so why not just make it her prf.
C1 feels like a Skull Kid C3 now if it lasted however long you wanted and if it had fantastic damage to be able to take down officers in a few seconds.
Also I found Lancebreaker on a sword so I guess the breaker skills ignore the weapon triangle. I still haven't tried out any of the breaker skills yet so idk how useful they are or how much this new info helps but it's more options which is never a bad thing.
 

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They have the same max damage anyways, the only thing I'm missing out on is no damage decrease when using -slayer skills afaik.
That and a potential freebie 7th slot slayer are it, yeah

and honestly with how ~BALANCED~ these weapons are, you could probably justify running slayers on Hero weapons anyway because they're still going to have enough atk to erase things

that or ignore slayers entirely because you already kill everything in a single combo attack

I haven't tried any of the new weapon skills yet either. There hasn't been a need to try them lol
 
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Ha, I got a random +Atk, -Def Karel from the TT banner. Also, +Atk, -HP 4* adult Tiki from the Weapons to Refine 2 banner.
 

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Oh wow, apparently the breaker skills triple your damage against whatever weapon you're so rudely breaking. You can only have 1 breaker per weapon game why won't you let me put all 6 breakers on a single weapon to triple my damage against everyone in the game smhsmh
So that sounds good enough to warrant it, time to give Sakura Tomebreaker since mages are the only thing left that she can't completely destroy. Maybe I'll throw on Armor Strike as well but idk if anything would even survive long enough at that point to take advantage of its bonus.
 

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Afternoon all. How's everyone doing? :4zelda:

Watching Gunsblazing's recent stream which is all on Ghostrick; I'd love to run that archetype myself; but I'm missing some key cards like Floodgate, Feint Plan and Anubis which would really help protect the cards, especially Skeleton which is just a perfect mill card.

Though I still want to try and get more copies of Ghostrick Witch. Mainly so I don't feel like I'm missing out on some cards.

Also, I'm at Chapter 6 of Xenoblade 2 now; I'm really enjoying more of it and I will admit, when I reached the area; I was stunned on how vast and pretty it looked.

 

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That's neat. They got Kate Higgins to sing the English version to Violet Evergarden's trailer theme "Snow Violet". Violet Evergarden popped up in the suggestions bar on YouTube a while ago and the thumbnail looked beautiful, so I checked it out. When I watched it, I was reminded of Metal Gear for the weirdest of reasons: the war setting and the main character reminded me of the Boss in Metal Gear Solid 3. Seeing her hands later in the trailer made me think of MGSV: The Phantom Pain and that led to me getting the feeling of what if this anime was like Metal Gear, but with letters, written and typed letters, instead of espionage? Anyway, it looks so beautiful.

Citrus getting an anime adaption is interesting as well. So is the Hibike Euphonium movie about Mizore and Nozomi. Also, this is a thing that happened.


It's from a preview for Yuru Camp.
 
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Lavani

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Got Oboro geared and leveled equally to Aqua

Aqua does in fact do more damage on top of having better clearing on top of singing

Oboro discount Aqua confirmed
 

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I got a +Atk Freddy from my free summon, thanks for the luck. But I still need sweet boy Robin :c

Also I finally bought the Zelda DLC. I promised myself I would wait until the final batch is out before letting myself play again. Now that I am, I’m reminded why this game won the much deserved GotY <3
 
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