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[Ffamran]

Celica's banner is all mages and they all come with new tomes and a B-skill for healers that ignores the damage penalty all current staves have: https://serenesforest.net/forums/index.php?/topic/71630-new-banner-rite-of-shadows/. Rejoice, Cress! !

Genny being a legitimate offensive healer which going off of what I remember reading about Genny and Silque and how they performed in Gaiden, makes no sense since Silque's stats favored becoming an offensive healer while Genny was the more defensive one.

Edit: Just watched the video and Mae's voice! Cherami Leigh never disappoints. Oh, and yeah, she's a glass cannon just judging by the fact she comes with Desperation and her 25 HP -- that better not be her actual HP cap. I want her and Celica, but then I'd have another glass cannon blue mage... Oh well. Boey seems to be a high defense mage seeing as how he has Ignis which makes him the second summonable unit with Ignis since F!Robin is GHB-only.

 

[Buddhahobo]

Celica's banner is all mages and they all come with new tomes and a staff that ignores the damage penalty all current staves have: https://serenesforest.net/forums/index.php?/topic/71630-new-banner-rite-of-shadows/. Rejoice, Cress! !

Genny being a legitimate offensive healer which going off of what I remember reading about Genny and Silque and how they performed in Gaiden, makes no sense since Silque's stats favored becoming an offensive healer while Genny was the more defensive one.

> Wrathful Staff 3 removes Healer ATK stat penalty.

 

[Ffamran]

Yeah, if Genny's attack is pretty meh, then I could totally see Elise being the go-to healer to receive it. Since, y'know, highest attack of the mages and being on a horse and all. Or Sakura since more 4 Sakura beating Lunatic GHB maps is always fun.

Edit: Logged on to immediately join team Linde. First thing she says is "I won't lose!" ;_;

 

[Burgundy]

Hmm...watching the Rite of Shadows trailer makes me realize that I kinda want everyone in it. I'll still want to pull a Henry, but it would just be for Raudrraven+ and if absolutely necessary, I can just upgrade my 4 Star Henry to get it. The other Mage I would want is Robin, but I already have a 4 Star that I've had for ages now, the one I potentially get from the Mage banner would just hopefully be a better nature, so it's not entirely necessary to try and get him...
I guess I'll save my orbs for the Celica banner. Speaking of which, Ragnarok is confusing. It only buffs Celica at full HP, yet does damage to her like Fury? It seems kinda lame to only be useful for the very first attack she deals. Though it could make a healer more necessary on Celica teams, and that wouldn't be terrible now that healers have a way to not do pitiful damage

 

[Buddhahobo]

I guess I'll save my orbs for the Celica banner. Speaking of which, Ragnarok is confusing. It only buffs Celica at full HP, yet does damage to her like Fury? It seems kinda lame to only be useful for the very first attack she deals. Though it could make a healer more necessary on Celica teams, and that wouldn't be terrible now that healers have a way to not do pitiful damage

Alternatively, Breath of Life 3 heals 7 HP to adjacent allies after attacking (Felicia 4*, I think). That could work pretty well with a partner; Celica attacks for extra damage, takes the HP hit, have a physical unit run in next with BoL 3 in their C slot to attack, Celica is healed back up.

Would still be pretty niche though.

 

[Ffamran]

I'm assuming nobody here joined team Linde? That or the developers don't match you up with your friends if you're using extremely under-leveled units knowing you're trying to cheese wins anymore.

Welp, just like last time with Cherche and Sharena, I get to look at Linde crying... At a certain point my heart is going to be shattered into a million pieces with all these gauntlets.

Ragnarok having a recoil effect makes sense from how magic works in Gaiden and Echoes, but it having a full HP buff is weird... It reminds me of the ultimate weapons in Final Fantasy minus the self-damage thing.

 

[Cress!]

So... what is Windsweep useful for again? It seems like Felicia and other similar dagger users like it but I'm not planning on using any dagger users. I really feel like I should just merge.
Help a gorl out ;_;

btw Buddhahobo thanks for your support on Team Henry, why do we always end up on the same team

 

[Burgundy]

I'm on team Robin btw. I'll swap between sending my Corrin, Hector, and Robin for fellow white haired anime boy lovers to use

 

[Eddie The Pacifist]

It's time for Royal Flush!

 

[Buddhahobo]

btw Buddhahobo thanks for your support on Team Henry, why do we always end up on the same team

Our shared love for bad puns, I'd assume.

Is Jorge pulling his weight on your end? I typically do these with low level characters and just have my Level 40 friends murder everything.

It's time for Royal Flush!

What is this, a stream for ants?

 

[Lorde]

I decided to join team Henry because it's a lot easier to get the higher ranks when there are less people on the team

I currently have Tharja set to the unit you'll receive from me, but I change her out to Linde/Hector/Reinhardt/Marx/etc. If you want me to change her, just let me know

Edit: forgot to mention that I joined Serene's Forest. I'm @Spritzee over there

 

[Cress!]

Is Jorge pulling his weight on your end? I typically do these with low level characters and just have my Level 40 friends murder everything.

He's helping out, but I will admit that he's my first choice to sacrifice if I need to just throw something at the other team. Spur Speed is nice.
I also gave Oboro Bonfire so that she can have a useful special finally, watching her do 40 damage to Xander with a single attack is worth it. I may sacrifice a Beruka if I care enough to get Defiant Defense up to rank 3 later as well

I decided to join team Henry because it's a lot easier to get the higher ranks when there are less people on the team

I currently have Tharja set to the unit you'll receive from me, but I change her out to Linde/Hector/Reinhardt/Marx/etc. If you want me to change her, just let me know

O so that's why I got her instead of Jeorge.
She's fine at killing heauxs, so you don't need to change her out.

 

[Lorde]

I don't think I mentioned it, but I pulled a +atk Donnel in the same summon I got my second Hector and a 5* Ogma

+atk Donnel is a unit I have wanted for a long time, so I'm training him up atm. It's really annoying that I used all of my Hinatas because now I don't have anyone that can give Fury 3. I guess Julia and Donnel are going to be stuck with Fury 2 for a while.

I also am training up a +atk Saizou that I found I had. I probs won't ever actually use him, but he has a nice chest, so that's reason enough to level him up.

And if someone wants to play HotS tonight, then that'd be great because I can't really play any other day this weekend.

Eddie The Pacifist , if you embed a stream again, please put it in a spoiler tag next time. The one you just linked plays automatically every time I refresh the page, and I have to manually turn it off each time, which is annoying. Thanks<3

 

[Ffamran]

I have no idea how I'm going to beat the use a colorless unit for the Defense Part 5 quest other than doing a strategy someone posted with 4* Donnel, Olivia, F!Robin, and Wrys. 4* Donnel is fine, but I kind of don't want to 4* Wrys.

 

[EODM07]

I was wondering what that noise was coming from. Please put it in a spoiler tag please Eddie.

Btw Cress! , I've added you to my Switch Friends List.

 

[Cress!]

Random thought: Oboro with a Sapphire Lance+. Me rn:

Btw Cress! , I've added you to my Switch Friends List.

Already accepted it!

 

[Lorde]

Cress gorl, if you want to change Oboro's weapon, you could give her the killer lance+ which would make bonfire have a 2 cooldown

Also, I changed my shared unit to Hector so that way no one on team Henry gets stuck with 3 red units

 

[Cress!]

Cress gorl, if you want to change Oboro's weapon, you could give her the killer lance+ which would make bonfire have a 2 cooldown

But I want to bully reds

 

[Y2Kay]

I think this reroll might be the one!

I got a 5 star Julia (+Atk -Res) a 4 star? Tharja (+Atk -Def), and a 4 star Seliph (+Def -Spe)

I am really digging these natures, which are awesome for a single role. I didn't get Linde, but I highly doubt I can another reroll as lucky as this.

 

[Buddhahobo]

I think this reroll might be the one!

I got a 5 star Julia (+Atk -Res) a 4 star? Tharja (+Atk -Def), and a 4 star Seliph (+Def -Spe)

I am really digging these natures, which are awesome for a single role. I didn't get Linde, but I highly doubt I can another reroll as lucky as this.

That's a pretty good haul.

Others might have different opinions based on the rarities (Only 1 5*), but Julia is well worth keeping a 1 5* pull, even moreso than a Hector, and you'll get a lot of use out of that Tharja.

The Seliph is kind of inconsequential; there are a lot better Red Units, many of them free (such as when Xander's GHB comes back), but naturally learning Rally Speed means he's always going to be valuable.

 

[Y2Kay]

That's a pretty good haul.

Others might have different opinions based on the rarities (Only 1 5*), but Julia is well worth keeping a 1 5* pull, even moreso than a Hector, and you'll get a lot of use out of that Tharja.

The Seliph is kind of inconsequential; there are a lot better Red Units, many of them free (such as when Xander's GHB comes back), but naturally learning Rally Speed means he's always going to be valuable.

Right now I'm just laying waist to everyone with Tharja right now, and speeding through these easy quests. All I do is use double rally (Seliph + Sharena) and tharja just wastes everything after that. I have had pretty atrocious luck with my pulls and am frankly too scared to scrap this file, so I'll keep it.

 

[Lil Puddin]

I think this reroll might be the one!

I got a 5 star Julia (+Atk -Res) a 4 star? Tharja (+Atk -Def), and a 4 star Seliph (+Def -Spe)

I am really digging these natures, which are awesome for a single role. I didn't get Linde, but I highly doubt I can another reroll as lucky as this.

+ATK Julia is pretty good. Options from best to worst:
Naga + Life and Death 3
Raven + Triangle Adept 3
Naga + Fury 3
Naga + Darting Blow 3
Naga + Death Blow 3
Naga + Triangle Adept 3

Draconic Aura is her best special skill, since chances are she won't last 4 turns. Keeping Dragon Fang is also OK. If you go with Raven Adept, Iceberg and Draconic Aura will perform the exact same in terms of secured kills.

+ATK Tharja is in the same boat as Julia. Pretty good, just not her best IV set. Good is better than bad, tho~
Basically keep everything the way it is, but give her Draconic Aura. You want to give her a speed buff first, attack buff second. Since her raw kill power comes from the fact that she (usually) doubles a lot of things... But most popular units have low Res so... Chances are she can OHKO anyway... Eh, whatever. If you have Eirika, you already have the perfect partner for her (+10 extra attack total, with +4 speed).

 

[Buddhahobo]

Right now I'm just laying waist to everyone with Tharja right now, and speeding through these easy quests. All I do is use double rally (Seliph + Sharena) and tharja just wastes everything after that. I have had pretty atrocious luck with my pulls and am frankly too scared to scrap this file, so I'll keep it.

Keep it then, get those free units starting with (hopefully) one or two 3* Ursulas, and start saving up your orbs.

Rally Speed is just a great skill to have, yeah, especially with a -blade tome user on deck. Sharena / Ursula / Subaki can all adequately work as you blue units atm until Camus comes out, depending on the occasion, and Olivia is Olivia.

 

[Lorde]

Is L&D really that great on Julia? Neutral spd only reaches 31 with it, which isn't really that great, and it makes her even frailer than she already is

Personally, I'd run Fury on her since you're only missing out on 2 atk and spd, and you're gaining +3 to your defensive stats in return. iirc fury also allows her to survive against and beat some units that she normally couldn't

I wouldn't replace her tome either since the anti-dragon effect is pretty good

 

[Ffamran]

Freaking game matched me up with a level 38 Palla, a level 28? Ike who was more like a level 32 unit considering one, he's a 5* and two, he has a built-in Distant Counter, and three, Ragnell has 16 MT, and a level 28-30 Nowi for a gauntlet round when I used my level 35 4* Gaius. I had a level 30 Spring Camilla and level 30-ish Clarine as a team members. Yes, clearly the unit I chose was such a threat that you had to throw a level 38 Palla at me. Camilla was able to handle Nowi just fine, especially with Gaius's Rally Speed, but the others? I had to tank hits with Gaius and then Clarine to kill them. I'm surprised Ike wasn't able to one-shot Gaius let alone kill him with Aether -- that's how long it went on -- despite Gaius being at 30 HP near the end of the round. Yes, Rogue Dagger's effect helped Gaius because I was able to get to the left hallway to bottleneck Ike and Palla who was in range for Gaius to hit her, but still. Gaius lived with like 8 HP or something after getting struck by Aether. Well, Clarine healed Gaius and took one for the team so that Camilla with Gaius's help could get two shots in to kill Ike. This time, I was grateful that Clarine was there. Still not grateful that she was there to begin with and that I got matched with a team like that. Bleh.

On the bright side, the colorless unit quest is done, so 100 more flags and before the gauntlet match, Jaffar and 3* Stahl got to level 40. Jaffar's 5* speech is awkwardly sweet. It'd be sweeter if Nino was here. Y'know, his future wife and best friend?

Oh, cool, the gamepedia site has sound files for the characters now. Well, Clarine does since I checked to see what her grateful line was.

Edit: So does Julia. Man... I really want Julia.

 

[Lil Puddin]

Is L&D really that great on Julia? Neutral spd only reaches 31 with it, which isn't really that great, and it makes her even frailer than she already is

Personally, I'd run Fury on her since you're only missing out on 2 atk and spd, and you're gaining +3 to your defensive stats in return. iirc fury also allows her to survive against and beat some units that she normally couldn't

I wouldn't replace her tome either since the anti-dragon effect is pretty good

Life and Death is just to go full on glass cannon. The reasoning being "She's already stupidly fragile, may as well let her double a few more units and deal more damage before she gets 1HKO'd." Fury is also a popular option, but the moment she attacks she's already back to being as fragile as before (-6HP if she attacks first).

But that's how it is with LnD vs Fury anyway. LnD is always better for more secured kills, Fury is always better for extra bulk and some non-conditional kill power.

Julia has the misfortune of being a green unit (basically the pure ice type of this game lol), a mage (so lower BST), and specialized RES tanking so her DEF is very sad. So people usually build her with the understanding that she's going to nuke some foolks and then die soon after.

 

[Y2Kay]

I got p good Chrom (+Atk -Spe) and an ok Draug (+HP -Res), I'm gonna train up Draug for the Ursula quest (I pray I'm good enough to beat it before then). Chrom has become increasingly ehhh since zephy and Xander came out but whatevs.

Feels good to start the game fresh knowing how to actually play it competently. My original account is full of units that I invested SP and levels into poorly, so I have a bunch of units I'm not even sure are good X_X

 

[Ffamran]

Oh, just remembered something with the talk about giving Oboro a different lance. Cress! , you should give Oboro a Carrot Lance. Why? Well...

Spoiler: Carrotastic!

It matches her robes.

Also, this was from a post made a month ago on Serene's Forest: https://serenesforest.net/forums/in...ion-and-links/&do=findComment&comment=4791933.

The Carrot Lance has to be my favorite weapon. It's so... carrot-y!

 

[Nammy12]

I came back from my first weekly in like 5 months.
There was only around 10 players so they just did a bracket to determine seeding for the tournament bracket.
I got 4th going all Ike. This is probably the best I've ever done in a bracket. Got sent to losers by a rosa/link player who got first and got eliminated by a ding dong.

Playing actual people offline feels good.

 

[Y2Kay]

I finally got Linde

she's +Def -Res

I swear, natures kinda ruin the awe for me

 

[Eddie The Pacifist]

Eddie The Pacifist , if you embed a stream again, please put it in a spoiler tag next time. The one you just linked plays automatically every time I refresh the page, and I have to manually turn it off each time, which is annoying. Thanks<3

Will do. Thanks for letting me know.

Our shared love for bad puns, I'd assume.

Is Jorge pulling his weight on your end? I typically do these with low level characters and just have my Level 40 friends murder everything.


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What is this, a stream for ants?

Yeah, I've always found it weird that SmashBoards does that.

 

[EODM07]

Morning girls. How's everyone doing?

Just read through the next chapter of D-Frag! Catching up with Smash 4 Doubles at Royal Flush which I thought were going live today, not yesterday. smh.

Will also be checking out the latest episode of My Hero Academia today as well. Hoping it'll be a good one that'll build up hype for the next episode.

Spoiler: Yuri pic of the day~

 

[Antonykun]

I finally got Linde

she's +Def -Res

I swear, natures kinda ruin the awe for me

Be happy she isn't -ATK or -SPD

 

[Ffamran]

I finally got Linde

she's +Def -Res

I swear, natures kinda ruin the awe for me

Yeah, like Antonykun said, at least she's not -Atk or -Spd. All Linde really cares about is attack and speed which are already high to begin with. She hits really hard and can usually double everyone which can let her ignore weapon triangle defense if a green has low resistance and can't counter back. It's not a great boon/bane, but it's usable. At the very least, you have her and eventually you can get another one since.

The simplest thing you can do for her is giving her either Draconic Aura or Dragon Fang. Aura might be hard to come by if you're starting compared to Fang, but it's a matter of personal preference. I gave her Aura, but reading a post on Serene's Forest: https://serenesforest.net/forums/in...ce-discussion/&do=findComment&comment=4834012, has made me feel like I would have liked Fang better since Linde hits hard and fast meaning she's likely to either one-shot or double someone to death. Fang would just let her one-shot a lot of units and could give her a large damage boost for attacking greens which she shouldn't be doing, but in those times when you have no choice, is helpful. Still, Draconic Aura is fine and more practical. Oh, and it's fitting since Linde's personal tome is Aura.

Also, give her Desperation since she's fast and she has Ardent Sacrifice off the bat, so she can safely drop to Desperation's threshold. Later on, you can just give her Life & Death 3.

Alternatively, and you should do this later when you have enough feathers, Odin becomes a 5* summon for a banner, etc. you could give her Blarblade+, Moonbow, and the usual, but considering cavalry and flyer buffs give +6 rather than +4, Ursula and, I personally wouldn't do this, Olwen and 5* Reinhardt -- 4* Reinhardt is stuck with Thoron which is definitely not as good as Blarblade for him consider his low speed -- are probably stronger users of Blarblade tomes.

Personally, since she's a 5* summon unit and my only 5* mage other than the other Linde with +HP, -Spd, I'm keeping her default tome.

Speaking of Linde, this happened in the morning when I tried to get in a quick gauntlet battle.

Spoiler: Poor Jagen...

I have no why Jagen has no weapon equipped, especially a level 1 one since a level 30-ish one I could see being used as a babysitter for low level units, so he'd just sit in front of them and take hits for them. Unless units are randomized if you're using really low level units for the gauntlet matches, but even then, randomized units in training tower do not just have no weapons equipped unless they're really, really low level healers.

 

[Burgundy]

Yeah, like Antonykun said, at least she's not -Atk or -Spd. All Linde really cares about is attack and speed which are already high to begin with. She hits really hard and can usually double everyone which can let her ignore weapon triangle defense if a green has low resistance and can't counter back. It's not a great boon/bane, but it's usable. At the very least, you have her and eventually you can get another one since.

The simplest thing you can do for her is giving her either Draconic Aura or Dragon Fang. Aura might be hard to come by if you're starting compared to Fang, but it's a matter of personal preference. I gave her Aura, but reading a post on Serene's Forest: https://serenesforest.net/forums/in...ce-discussion/&do=findComment&comment=4834012, has made me feel like I would have liked Fang better since Linde hits hard and fast meaning she's likely to either one-shot or double someone to death. Fang would just let her one-shot a lot of units and could give her a large damage boost for attacking greens which she shouldn't be doing, but in those times when you have no choice, is helpful. Still, Draconic Aura is fine and more practical. Oh, and it's fitting since Linde's personal tome is Aura.

Also, give her Desperation since she's fast and she has Ardent Sacrifice off the bat, so she can safely drop to Desperation's threshold. Later on, you can just give her Life & Death 3.

Alternatively, and you should do this later when you have enough feathers, Odin becomes a 5* summon for a banner, etc. you could give her Blarblade+, Moonbow, and the usual, but considering cavalry and flyer buffs give +6 rather than +4, Ursula and, I personally wouldn't do this, Olwen and 5* Reinhardt -- 4* Reinhardt is stuck with Thoron which is definitely not as good as Blarblade for him consider his low speed -- are probably stronger users of Blarblade tomes.

Personally, since she's a 5* summon unit and my only 5* mage other than the other Linde with +HP, -Spd, I'm keeping her default tome.

Speaking of Linde, this happened in the morning when I tried to get in a quick gauntlet battle.

Spoiler: Poor Jagen...

I have no why Jagen has no weapon equipped, especially a level 1 one since a level 30-ish one I could see being used a babysitter for low level units, so he'd just sit in front of them and take hits for them. Unless units are randomized if you're using really low level units for the gauntlet matches, but even then, randomized units in training tower do not just have no weapons equipped unless they're really, really low level healers.
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I've heard of people intentionally sending out bad units, or units with no weapon. I dunno why, maybe distaste for a character so they try to get them to lose by sending out bad units, or just to be mean.

Also I did a summon again this morning and what d'ya know I got garbage pulls who woulda thought

 

[Ffamran]

I've heard of people intentionally sending out bad units, or units with no weapon. I dunno why, maybe distaste for a character so they try to get them to lose by sending out bad units, or just to be mean.

Also I did a summon again this morning and what d'ya know I got garbage pulls who woulda thought

For voting gauntlet, though? Why'd you want your opponent to have easy wins?

I didn't check the rarity at the time, but I think that's a +Atk, -Def 3* Jagen. Can't be a 4* or more otherwise he'd have -Def and -Res. Not that great since Jagen's defense becomes crappy, but +Atk is really helpful for the old man.

 

[EODM07]

Top 32 of Royal Flush (Sm4sh Singles) is live.

IcyMist who mains Samus is in Top 32. : D

Also, I saw the latest episode of My Hero Academia S2. It had a great build up to what we'll be seeing in the next episode. Can't wait for more.

 

[Y2Kay]

Would merging units bypass their bad natures? I have two sanaki's with iffy natures, should I save them for triangle adept fodder, or make her +1 for the boosted stats?

 

[Lil Puddin]

Would merging units bypass their bad natures? I have two sanaki's with iffy natures, should I save them for triangle adept fodder, or make her +1 for the boosted stats?

Yes and no. +5~+6 should erase banes, but you'd go up against +5 units or higher in the Arena... So you're right back where you started.

 

[Nammy12]

When merging do you pass down inherited skills?