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[Buddhahobo]

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Every day's great at your Junes.

Edit: can someone help me build a team for the Arena? Other than Linde, idk who I should use. I can take a picture of my 5* units if I need to.

Sure, what do you have?

 

[Lorde]

Sure, what do you have?

Here are all of my 5* units:

Spoiler

My biggest problem is that I don't really have any great sword users. Marth is really average, and both of my Karels have absolute garbage IVs. Eirika is good, but she's more of a support unit.

 

[Antonykun]

Lorde you don't really need a good sword unit espeially with how overused they are on defense, you only need a good red to deal with stray wyverns and green mages.

i think your team rn is solid try playing around with what you have and see any weaknesses

 

[Buddhahobo]

My biggest problem is that I don't really have any great sword users. Marth is really average, and both of my Karels have absolute garbage IVs. Eirika is good, but she's more of a support unit.

Reds don't matter that much, outside of being about to deal with Hectors. On my team (Effie / Linde / Cherche / Roy), Roy's entire job is to just wall and eat the greens (Hector) my other units have trouble with due to Triangle Adept. I'm probably going to replace him with a 4* Selena at some point, she does just as good in that spot imo, and can surpass him with SI and upgrading. Your Tharja already basically does that, and any Greens that she can't take out, you have Klein to assist or deal with instead.

IMO, the more important hole that needs filling is a good blue killer on your team. Linde can do a lot of things and take out most of the blue units, but she can't oneshot Effie, and neither can Klein, leaving both of them open to getting bodied. I don't know about Hawkeye that much, but you might want to try out Bunny Chrom for that purpose. He should be able to go against multiple blues in a match and win.

Linde is the star, obviously. She's a monster who without any buffs eats 3/4ths of the game.

Dancers are dancers, and you have two really good magical nukes who'll appreciate it.

You may want to consider Eirika because, as the arguably best stat buffing character, your mage nukes will love her. Tharja obviously because she has a -blade tome, Linde because she's right at the cusp of KOing a lot of the things she doesn't naturally with Aura. Depending on how it works in practice, you might want to switch Aura out for the blue -blade tome, too, which is one of the few times I'd recommend that for her.

So...the team you have there is in all honesty pretty good. Biggest problems you're likely to run into can probably be mitigated by swapping out Klein (and/or maybe Ninian) for Bunny Chrom or Eirika.

 

[Lorde]

Should I give Tharja Triangle Adept 3 or Fury 3? I'm thinking Fury 3 because it boosts her BST, but Triangle Adept 3 would make her absolutely destroy green units (a.k.a. Hector)

 

[Lil Puddin]

Should I give Tharja Triangle Adept 3 or Fury 3? I'm thinking Fury 3 because it boosts her BST, but Triangle Adept 3 would make her absolutely destroy green units (a.k.a. Hector)

Well BST isn't a huge factor for the arena anymore. But Fury3 so she can be still be buffed and ORKO everything. Adept would make blue units impossible to ORKO without serious buffing.

 

[Buddhahobo]

Should I give Tharja Triangle Adept 3 or Fury 3? I'm thinking Fury 3 because it boosts her BST, but Triangle Adept 3 would make her absolutely destroy green units (a.k.a. Hector)

Tharja already murders Hector out of the box (assuming she isn't already pretty hurt; his counter is still going to take off about 50% of her HP, so keep that in mind). My team has to worry about him because it's largely physical based, hence the TA Roy. The greens Tharja needs help with are dealing with the Ninos, Julias, and Minervas. Hence why Klein, a Brave Bow archer, can deal with them just as well as a sword unit like Eirika. TA Tharja is a bad idea.

IIRC, arena calcs changed recently. BST is now only a small portion in calculating your score; rarity and level make up the bulk of it now, and SI on everyone bumps it up some more which you're obviously doing.

Fury doesn't really bring that much to the table at a glance; like, if you want to throw on desperation, keep vengeance, and use Fury as a way to deplete her HP I guess that makes sense, but it'll take a while. I guess it also makes some sense if you decide to switch someone else to Eirika and want to maximize the stat buffs, but I'd test vanilla Tharja first before deciding to invest in that. Tharja kind of likes her Darting Blow 3, tbh. Basically does the same amount of damage.

 

[Ffamran]

Most people are saying Oboro>Lukas. The tl;dr is that he's way too polarized on defense, and his ACTUALLY abysmal speed and resistance (30 speed isn't abysmal feheroes wiki smh) are too big of a con to make up for it. His defense is so high that it really doesn't matter, and it's really just better to give him Defense +3 instead of Fortress Defense 3 (well you really shouldn't use either of them). Plus Sacred Cowl does nothing since basically any mage not named Henry will still murder him. Unless you're battling bow users. Then I guess it's a sorta ok idea but magic users are way more common than bow users. Obstruct is lol.
So yeah Lukas' entire base kit needs to be overhauled except maybe for his lance, while Oboro has some use without inheritance. Oboro still has the slight edge post-inheritance; giving up some defense and HP for a nice chunk of resistance and a semblance of a speed stat is the better way to go instead of DEEFEENSEEEEEEEEE but you get doubled by everything and die instantly if a child throws a book at you, especially with how different this game is to normal FE games. Donny and Eph both are better than Lukas and Oboro so it doesn't really matter if you have either of those 2

Well, that's the thing, if you give (and don't get his default skills) Lukas Bonfire, Atk +3 or Def +3, and Quick Riposte, he's going to be stupidly tanky and hard-hitting. An attack boon or defense boon would make him stronger as well. If you need a unit to just sit there in front of swords and lances, then he's probably the unit to do so. Having him get doubled might actually work in his favor to charge up Bonfire or maybe Ignis is better in this case. The others can do the same, but they're better off doing their own thing. Lukas's default skills reminds me of M!Corrin and Hana's passive skills and weapon in Hana's case. Kind of useless or very situational for who they are. For one, I haven't even bothered getting any of Hana's skills other than Life & Death 1 and Steel Sword since she was a 1*.

Oboro at this point to me is the jack of all trades compared to the other units. Donnel is the Brave Lance guy, Ephraim is a thug, Lukas is a wall, and Sharena is the speedster. They all trade something to lean towards a niche which is overall, a better thing than Oboro who can take up all, but Sharena's niches at the cost of not excelling in them. She's flexible, but the others are better as specialists. That said, as she's not a specialist, it can be harder to exploit her except for magic. All of them are pretty weak to magic except for Donnel and Sharena since they're fast enough to avoid doubling, but will probably get nuked by any mage, especially if they're running a -blade tome. Flipside is when the eventual resistance tank lance infantry comes, then they're getting nuked by physical units. Yay!

Also, at least Oboro isn't Beruka. Lukas got me mad after planning a build for Oboro and seeing how awesome she would be, so I checked Beruka vs. Michalis to vent: https://serenesforest.net/forums/in...ce-discussion/&do=findComment&comment=4795008. I feel sorry for her after the revelation.

TL;DR: There is kind of no point to use her with a Killer Axe, Bonfire, and Quick Riposte build when Michalis is as tanky, but hits much harder and has Hauteclare, a 16 MT Killer Axe+. Minerva does Beruka's job better. Both do her job better if you downgrade them to a Killer Axe+. Cherche can compete against the Macedon siblings despite having lower defense because of her ludicrous attack, but she's still limited to a Killer Axe+. Beruka and Cherche do better with Silver Axes at the cost of having Bonfire activating later.

I don't know about Hawkeye that much, but you might want to try out Bunny Chrom for that purpose. He should be able to go against multiple blues in a match and win.

Hawkeye is slow. He hits hard, especially with Death Blow. Because of his low speed and his default skill being an AOE, he probably better off with either Iceberg or Glacies so that if and when it's ready, he can utterly destroy someone. A very stupid and expensive build for him is to give him Distant Counter, Iceberg/Glacies, and Quick Riposte and have him be a mage counter. He'll likely get doubled by mages, take little to no damage, especially if they're blues, and murder them. That said, if a mage is strong enough or is a red mage, the fact he is getting doubled will probably means he'll die while another axe unit might not because they're fast enough to avoid getting finished.

It's probably better to use someone like Anna, Barst, Bunny Chrom, Raven, or anyone with high attack and Brave Axe or is fast like Anna to decimate blue mages even if their resistance isn't that good.

Edit: Now that I think of it, Hawkeye might be the most underwhelming 5* unit I have. Welp, let's see if -Atk, +Spd Jaffar tops that. He won't; he's fast and at least can do stupid chip damage with a built-in Poison Strike 2.

 

[Eddie The Pacifist]

Spoiler: Brawl Singles 1st-4th

1st:Nairo. 2nd:V115. 3rd:Salem.4th:Seagull Joe

Spoiler: UPSET OH BOY

ESAM3-1 Larry Lurr

 

[Ffamran]

So... what's goin' on?

The new Samurai Jack Season 5 episode was good.

 

[Lorde]

really tempted to give my tharja life and death 3 since she's -atk and the +5 spd would basically be a permanent darting blow

i really don't want to waste 20k feathers promoting a hana, though

i almost have 40k feathers, though, so i guess it wouldn't be that big of a deal

 

[McKnightlíght]

@greening12345cincoseis

hey why don't you ever play smeej brothers with me

 

[Koiba]

Technically it's April 16 here so happy birthday to me woo ;00

It's been 2 years since I came here, and you gorls are still one of the coolest people that I've met.

Y'all are awesome, stay sassy <3

 

[Benishigure]

Technically it's April 16 here so happy birthday to me woo ;00

It's been 2 years since I came here, and you gorls are still one of the coolest people that I've met.

Y'all are awesome, stay sassy <3

HAPPY BIRTHDAY SIS WE GON CELEBRATE WITH SASS

 

[Eddie The Pacifist]

Spoiler: CEO DREAMLAND 2017 Top 8

Winners Semis:TSM ZeRo vs PG ESAM+ NRG Nairo vs Elevate Mr R/. Losers Top 8:CLG VoiD vs Samsora+RNG Dabuz vs Denial Marss.
From this layout, I could see a repeat of the Top 3 at CEO 2015. 1st ZeRo, 2nd Nairo and 3rd Dabuz

 

[EODM07]

Afternoon girls. How's everyone doing?

Had an early dinner since my Dad will be having a nap. So got to keep the noise down.

And I did check a few matches of Top 48. I am disappointed that Raito missed out on Top 8, but the fact he got 9th place is very impressive for a Duck Hunt main. Keep it up at the next tournament Raito!

Spoiler: Yuri pic of the day~

 

[Buddhahobo]

Happy Bunny Day everyone.

May we never forget the sacrifices of our Lord and Savior Peter Rabbit, who selflessly infiltrated the garden of Mr. McGregor in search of the forbidden carrots so that he might see beyond the realm meant for his little rabbit eyes.

Afternoon girls. How's everyone doing?

How'd you end up getting Twitch to work on your Wii U again, out of curiosity? I checked on mine and the site technically loads, but the stream and chat never finish loading.

 

[Jaguar360]

Happy Easter everyone and Happy Birthday Koiba ! Let's all take a moment to appreciate Reader Rabbit in honor of Easter.

^This was the best one

50 points away from being #1 on CEO Dreamland fantasy right now. And I have all of the winners top 8 + 1 in losers top 8, so I have a good chance to get #1. I just want top 2 so I can have that free registration for CEO 2017 and hopefully convince my mom to let me go to Florida. ESAM, Ookami, Raito and ZD came through!

 

[r_greening1]

@greening12345cincoseis

hey why don't you ever play smeej brothers with me

cuz u smell

 

[EODM07]

Happy Bunny Day everyone.

May we never forget the sacrifices of our Lord and Savior Peter Rabbit, who selflessly infiltrated the garden of Mr. McGregor in search of the forbidden carrots so that he might see beyond the realm meant for his little rabbit eyes.



How'd you end up getting Twitch to work on your Wii U again, out of curiosity? I checked on mine and the site technically loads, but the stream and chat never finish loading.

What I do is I add at the end of the url "/popout" which makes only the stream run. It makes it very useful if you want to watch Twitch on the TV or on the Gamepad.

Say I wanted to watch FOW's Stream. I'll put down the url http //www twitch tv/FOW/popout (I didn't put in the . in between since this is just an example).

 

[Lorde]

it's because greening likes me better than you

that's why we play smash without you

 

[Nammy12]

Don't worry evan I'll play smeej with you

 

[EODM07]

So I completed my first Switch title.

Blaster Master Zero. It was really fun to play.
I was planning on watching Alice & Zoroku tonight as well, but I just can't be bothered right now. Will probably watch Episode 2 tomorrow.

 

[Cress!]

^This was the best one

So the best Reader Rabbit didn't even involve reading?
What a compleTe heaux

 

[Eddie The Pacifist]

Spoiler: CEO DREAMLAND Melee Top 4

1st:EchoFox MVG Mew2king.2nd:CLGI SFAT. 3rd:Liquid Hungrybox. 4th:Swedish Delight

 

[Lil Puddin]

Happy Bunbun day, gorls. But tomorrow is the true holiday. The holiday where all Easter candies go on sale for 25%~50% off.

Also I found a meme featuring Cress! IRL.

 

[Koiba]

Spoiler: Burfday presents

I had to censor Dark Pit's finger

Thanks Nammy12 <3

 

[Cress!]

Also I found a meme featuring Cress! IRL.
*What even is this*

Um
That isn't even remotely close to being me

The hair is way too light and short to be mine, way too thin as well. The eyes are also probably the wrong color as well. And who even wears solid red-colored shirts, not me for sure.

Also das nasT btw

 

[Lorde]

Also das nasT btw

wait, do you pronounce the fujin capital t like tea?

i've always read it as the "t-sound," so something like sassT would almost rhyme with the word "asked"

so kinda like sass-tuh

 

[Jaguar360]

Dreamland was hype as h*ck

Fantasy is won

Catch me at CEO this summer if my mom lets me fly to Florida

 

[Cress!]

wait, do you pronounce the fujin capital t like tea?

i've always read it as the "t-sound," so something like sassT would almost rhyme with the word "asked"

It just depends on the word and what seems more natural to me, I always thought of it making the T sound and actually saying T.

 

[Lil Puddin]

Um
That isn't even remotely close to being me

The hair is way too light and short to be mine, way too thin as well. The eyes are also probably the wrong color as well. And who even wears solid red-colored shirts, not me for sure.

Also das nasT btw

but I wasn't the first one getting hot for Reaper's voice. :^)

 

[Buddhahobo]

What I do is I add at the end of the url "/popout" which makes only the stream run. It makes it very useful if you want to watch Twitch on the TV or on the Gamepad.

Say I wanted to watch FOW's Stream. I'll put down the url http //www twitch tv/FOW/popout (I didn't put in the . in between since this is just an example).

Thank you! I really missed being able to watch twitch through my Wii U and adding the /popout worked.

Happy Bunbun day, gorls. But tomorrow is the true holiday. The holiday where all Easter candies go on sale for 25%~50% off.

Also I found a meme featuring Cress! IRL.

That looks nothing like my mental representation of Cress, therefore it's wrong.

And why isn't he wearing socks with his sneakers, does he want athlete's foot?

2/10, horrible 5 second costume change.

This is how you're supposed to do it:

 

[Lil Puddin]

Thank you! I really missed being able to watch twitch through my Wii U and adding the /popout worked.



That looks nothing like my mental representation of Cress, therefore it's wrong.

And why isn't he willing socks with his sneakers, does he want athlete's foot?

2/10, horrible 5 second costume change.

This is how you're supposed to do it:

That dress would actually impress Gabriel because it's all black and Gabriel is edgyboy. So it'd actually make sense to have more clothes than less clothes. wowowow 10/10 wise gorl knows how to get ha man

 

[Buddhahobo]

That dress would actually impress Gabriel because it's all black and Gabriel is edgyboy. So it'd actually make sense to have more clothes than less clothes. wowowow 10/10 wise gorl knows how to get ha man

It is a secret art known to never fail. However, if done on your man too much, he will go into permanent shock, like so:

Spoiler

 

[Lorde]

that plaid jumpsuit thing may be the ugliest article of clothing i have ever seen

she looks like a flying squirrel

 

[Buddhahobo]

that plaid jumpsuit thing may be the ugliest article of clothing i have ever seen

she looks like a flying squirrel

True.

I'm not sure if it was supposed to be some weird Sherlock Holmes homage or if the idea was "Red Carpet to pajamas in 2 seconds flat".

 

[Ffamran]

Happy Easter everyone and Happy Birthday Koiba ! Let's all take a moment to appreciate Reader Rabbit in honor of Easter.

^This was the best one

50 points away from being #1 on CEO Dreamland fantasy right now. And I have all of the winners top 8 + 1 in losers top 8, so I have a good chance to get #1. I just want top 2 so I can have that free registration for CEO 2017 and hopefully convince my mom to let me go to Florida. ESAM, Ookami, Raito and ZD came through!

OH! I remember playing those as a kid. And Spy Fox and Freddie the Fish. Wasn't there also this one with a purple car? Also, something with green aliens and math. I think Lucahjin did LPs of Freddie the Fish and the purple car one. Not sure about Spy Fox or Reader Rabbit which I don't think is on Steam.

Anyway, got bored, looked up "revali falco", and found some other funny images.

Spoiler

Something about Revali makes me laugh. Aside from his giant flappy hands, I think it's that out of all the sages -- pretty sure they're sages --, he is the only one that doesn't reference a sage from any of the past Zelda games. Daruk is Darunia, Mipha is Ruto, and Urbosa is Nabooru. Revali? He's Falco.

I can't think of any character in the Zelda universe or in the other Nintendo universes he would be based off. Outside of using a Sheikah character or somehow trying to get a Kokiri which would have implications of child soldiers which isn't exactly a good idea or even a Korok, I don't think there was much of a choice other than make a new race. Well, there's already a race that's been used and who could work: the Rito. I don't remember any Rito in Wind Waker being a jerk; the mailman was cool, Komali just seemed shy, and Medli was definitely nice. So, who's a bird and a total jerk? Falco. Yay! The most annoying sage has been created!

 

[Lorde]

True.

I'm not sure if it was supposed to be some weird Sherlock Holmes homage or if the idea was "Red Carpet to pajamas in 2 seconds flat".

wouldn't it be brown plaid if it were a sherlock homage, though?

 

[Lil Puddin]

that plaid jumpsuit thing may be the ugliest article of clothing i have ever seen

she looks like a flying squirrel

Although that black outfit is cute, the plaid one is indeed an abomination. At least it made for a great vine video (turn down the volume or bass omfg this video's audio tho).

I think runway fashion isn't supposed to always look pretty or cute, considering how some "amazing" pieces look. Maybe it's supposed to just provoke a "Wow! What!" response to be Runway-Acceptable.

Like "Wow! What an outfit!" or "Wow! What a horrific abomination!"
The latter could also be used to describe Zelda's performance or kit in Smash Bros too.