Guide Zelda Social: But also the FE Heroes Internet Cafe

[Berserker.]

I don't get the joke

dark souls is a dancing/driving game so using a keyboard or a controller wouldnt be a fantastic idea

 

[EODM07]

Currently doing some testing on that one bit of Pac-Man tech I found a while ago when I fiddling around with characters that could platform cancel. Gonna make a video of its combo potential and capabilities.

 

[Antonykun]

I don't get the joke

Spoiler: spoiler boss

the dark souls fan base are a bunch of masochists.

 

[Cardboardtubeknight]

Zelda's sucking is what I like her for

 

[Lil Puddin]

Zelda's sucking is what I like her for

L-lewd lies! Scandalous!!! Aw... Awful!!!!!!

 

[Cardboardtubeknight]

L-lewd lies! Scandalous!!! Aw... Awful!!!!!!

Tee








hee

 

[Eddie The Pacifist]

dark souls is a dancing/driving game so using a keyboard or a controller wouldnt be a fantastic idea

You quoted me saying something about Dark Souls when I've never mentioned the game before here.

Zelda's sucking is what I like her for

I wish I read that less carefully.

 

[Cardboardtubeknight]

I wish I read that less carefully.

Its all on you all. I could just meaning her skill level. I like a challenge, baby.

 

[Berserker.]

You quoted me saying something about Dark Souls when I've never mentioned the game before here

i am an octopus

 

[ElderLolz]

Seeing Zelda do Joseph and Josuke poses and not smiling makes me kinda upset

J-Joseph poses?
Those are from Kakyoin, Jolyne, Part 8 Josuke and Part 4 Josuke :v
Also another one:

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[Cardboardtubeknight]

J-Joseph poses?
Those are from Kakyoin, Jolyne, Part 8 Josuke and Part 4 Josuke :v
Also another one:

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She looks like she wants to rip out my intestines and use it as a scarf for a fashion run way show. In other words: good job man I like it.

 

[EODM07]

So far what I've found is been rather interesting with regarding Pac-Man's UAir.

His UAir is the only move so far from what I've seen where if you fall through a platform and do his UAir, the animation will continue even when he's on the platform, meaning that you can do a grounded UAir. Plus it can combo into all kinds of moves.

Spoiler: Percents and Weights so far

Note: So far I've only used one character from each weight group. for Fast Fallers, for Heavyweights, for Midweights and for Lightweights. Meaning that the weights with "(Does not work)" next to them may work on other characters in the same weight group as them. If I can, I will continue my research on the other characters.

These are the moves Pac-Man can combo into from a grounded UAir:
- Jab
- FTilt
- DTilt
- FAir
- BAir
- UAir
- Key

UAir > Jab Combo:
Fast Fallers - 25% - 40%
Heavyweights - 30% - 45%
Midweights - 25% - 35% [Jab 1 will be the only one to connect at 35%]
Lightweights (Does not work)

UAir > FTilt:
Fast Fallers - 25% - 40%
Heavyweights - 25% - 55%
Midweights - 35% - 45%
Lightweights - 25%

UAir > DTilt:
Fast Fallers 30% - 40%
Heavyweights 40% - 45%
Midweights - 40%
Lightweights (Does not work)

UAir > FAir:
Fast Fallers - 50% - 70%
Heavyweights - 55% - 80%
Midweights - 45% - 55%
Lightweights - 35% - 45%

UAir (Back) > BAir:
Fast Fallers - 50% - 75%
Heavyweights - 60% - 85%
Midweights - 55% - 70%
Lightweights - 40% - 55%

UAir (Back) > Key:
Fast Fallers - 60% - 70%
Heavyweights (Does not work)
Midweights - 65% - 70%
Lightweights (Does not work)

UAir > UAir > UAir:
Fast Fallers - 60% - 80%
Heavyweights - 70% - 100% (At 100%, can only connect two UAirs)
Midweights - 70% - 80%
Lightweights - 55% - 65% (Can only connect two UAirs)

I'll try and do a video of all of the combos, however doing UAir > Key is actually kinda tough. You have to do it in a B-Reverse fashion or quickly do a turnaround after the UAir into a FH Key. I've always been doing Side B whenever I tried to do that combo smh.

 

[wedl!!]

*pokes nose in* I remember trying to build around $500... There is not a lot of headroom when Windows makes up a 1/5 of that. Is it possible? Yes, but there are going to compromises.

Spoiler: PC/PS4 stuff

For me, I said screw that, I'll save up and get something fancy, but not extreme like those $3000 builds with custom water cooling, extreme silence, etc. builds which aren't really good examples of PC gaming. I think the sweet-spot for a regular PC build would be around $700 where you are likely going to get high to mid-high settings, 60 FPS, and at 1080p while also having access to a PC that can do other things. That isn't to say consoles can't do other things. Everyday internet browsing and such are possible. Anyway, going above that price range is where you're getting the high to maxed settings people shell out for because it's that enticing whether it's 1080p, 1440p, 4K, or VR. Going below that, well, you're getting something like a "more flexible console" or what could be considered a regular gaming PC. Consoles are considered to run games around low to low-mid settings compared to PC. Frankly, it's not really a problem considering that low settings in recent games are like high settings for older games. With the current hardware, you can run any game and have them look fine and play fine. Also, art direction, hardware demand differences, developers becoming better at their craft, etc.

Anyway, it's a give and take with consoles and PC (and handhelds). PCs can kind of be lumped into there are a ton of games and most of them are backwards compatible, you have the ability to get high graphics fidelity and performance, and it's a PC, but the drawback is that it's not plug and play, you don't have access to exclusives, and depending on what you do, it can be very expensive or not -- there is a lot of variability. Consoles are plug and play, have exclusives not on PC or other consoles, and are relatively inexpensive, but the drawback is that you won't get top of the line performance, most of them aren't backwards compatible, are mostly for just gaming and can't do other stuff, and games tend to be a fixed price for longer -- no crazy stuff like Steam, GMG, etc. sales.

For me, I lean towards PC over consoles. I'd rather just have a PC that has access to a majority of games being released and that it's a PC. That being said, as a fan of Nintendo and Sony exclusives, I'd like to have either of them, but I created a 10 game checklist so that I know if I buy a PS4, there are 10 games, preferably exclusives, I know I want and can buy whenever rather than buying it and realizing that there aren't a lot of games I want on it that I could play on another system. Happened with the Wii where waiting for Brawl and a new Zelda wasn't that great. Still, found some cool games like Muramasa: The Demon Blade and other Nintendo stuff.

Looking at the PS4, Dark Souls 3 is a given, there's going to be Final Fantasy XV, the remasters of X, X-2, XII, Type-0, and Skyrim. Minecraft is better played on PC and it doesn't take a beast of a machine to run it. So, that's 7 games where 4 of them are the remasters -- Type-0 is a special case, though --, I don't know if you'd be interested since you already have XII; they do offer different experiences with the international stuff we never got. Those 4 are also on PC along with III, IV, VII, VIII, and the XIII trilogy. Skyrim's also in a similar boat as Minecraft, but that's more for "stability" reasons because Bethesda... I'd only say it's Dark Souls 3 and FFXV, but DSIII is multi-platform and FFXV might get a PC port. Add maybe Bloodborne and Nioh which are bloodier, but "Souls"-like games. 4 games. Name at least 4 to 6 more and PS4, slim or Pro, might make more sense.

I don't know much about Linux, but you can go the route of Linux if you really don't like Windows 10. The problem with that is support, especially in games. For Dark Souls 3, I don't think it's supported by Linux, so you're SOL on that. Everyday PC usage would probably benefit more from Linux by having a decent, inexpensive PC and free OS. Windows 7 and 8 are still options, but they're going to be unsupported by Microsoft, so there's that... They're already unsupported in some features and games already e.g. DirectX 12, recent AMD and Intel chips, etc.

I don't think a ~$200 gaming PC is possible without extreme cost-cutting, compromises, or sales like Black Friday. If you're just looking for a PS4-like experience, but with a PC...

Spoiler: More Pii Cii stuff.

Oh, Windows... Why must you take up a chunk of all budgets?

Spoiler: APU build

PCPartPicker part list: http://pcpartpicker.com/list/B3gYd6
Price breakdown by merchant: http://pcpartpicker.com/list/B3gYd6/by_merchant/

CPU: AMD A10-7890K 4.1GHz Quad-Core Processor ($148.99 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: ASRock FM2A68M-DG3+ Micro ATX FM2+ Motherboard ($44.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Memory: Mushkin Stealth 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-2133 Memory ($39.89 @ OutletPC)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($49.49 @ OutletPC)
Case: Deepcool TESSERACT BF ATX Mid Tower Case ($34.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Power Supply: EVGA 500W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply ($42.89 @ OutletPC)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 10 Home OEM 64-bit ($85.70 @ My Choice Software)
Total: $446.94
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2016-10-06 02:37 EDT-0400

I don't want to go any lower than this, that APU -- the CPU listed is an APU -- is the most recent one and it's stronger than A10-7870K, A10-7860K, etc. You would pretty much have a PS4-like build minus a GPU that "works" alongside the APU. A bit complicated, but APUs being a CPU and GPU hybrid, they can use dual graphics as if you had a CPU and 2+ GPUs. Problem with multi-GPU setups is that it doesn't tend to scale consistently.

Also, APUs benefit from having higher RAM frequencies, hence the 2133 instead of 1600 or whatever, so that's why it's there. Fortunately, it's not expensive.

Maybe you can cannibalize your old PC for an optical drive, maybe hard drive, but nothing else like I don't think a 2005 office PC's PSU would be a good idea to reuse.

Benchmarks for reference;
A10-7890K:
Tom's Hardware: http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/amd-a10-7890k-gaming-performance-benchmark,4491-3.html.
Dark Souls 3: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VTTfmFmr1OY. Gameplay starts around 5:00, so don't be fooled by the 60-ish FPS on the title screen. It's at max settings at 720p which is... interesting. I'm sure if you dropped it to medium or low, you'd be getting at least stable 30 FPS.
A10-7860K:
Dark Souls 3: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7A4Js3CP1gQ. Low settings and at 1360x768 resolution and it's only getting at most, 30 FPS.
A10-7850K:
Dark Souls 3: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zmxit_qH6MU. Similar to above, but it shows the differences between high, medium, and low settings which isn't much...

If you can stretch it out to ~$500.

Spoiler: Discrete graphics build

Note: The GPU is on a promotion, so it's actually 20 bucks more.

PCPartPicker part list: http://pcpartpicker.com/list/GTpdbj
Price breakdown by merchant: http://pcpartpicker.com/list/GTpdbj/by_merchant/

CPU: Intel Core i3-6100 3.7GHz Dual-Core Processor ($110.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Motherboard: ASRock H110M-DGS Micro ATX LGA1151 Motherboard ($53.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance LPX 8GB (1 x 8GB) DDR4-2400 Memory ($36.67 @ NCIX US)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($49.49 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: Gigabyte Radeon RX 460 4GB WINDFORCE OC Video Card ($110.50 @ Newegg)
Case: Deepcool TESSERACT BF ATX Mid Tower Case ($34.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Power Supply: EVGA 500W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply ($42.89 @ OutletPC)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 10 Home OEM 64-bit ($85.70 @ My Choice Software)
Total: $525.22
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2016-10-06 02:38 EDT-0400

RX 460 running Dark Souls 3 at various settings: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8IzY3VP2tj8.

Alternatively, you can go with the R7 360 or GTX 750 Ti which are older -- 1 generation older for the R7 360 and 2 for the GTX 750 Ti --, but will have similar, albeit slightly weaker performance. Maybe when the GTX 1050 and 1050 Ti drop, the GTX 950 might drop in price or the newer ones are offered at a better price. Build would look something like this:

Spoiler: GTX 750 Ti version

Note: R7 360 is about the same price.

PCPartPicker part list: http://pcpartpicker.com/list/WhFwYr
Price breakdown by merchant: http://pcpartpicker.com/list/WhFwYr/by_merchant/

CPU: Intel Core i3-6100 3.7GHz Dual-Core Processor ($110.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Motherboard: ASRock H110M-DGS Micro ATX LGA1151 Motherboard ($53.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance LPX 8GB (1 x 8GB) DDR4-2400 Memory ($36.67 @ NCIX US)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($49.49 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: Zotac GeForce GTX 750 Ti 2GB Video Card ($98.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Case: Deepcool TESSERACT BF ATX Mid Tower Case ($34.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Power Supply: EVGA 500W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply ($42.89 @ OutletPC)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 10 Home OEM 64-bit ($85.70 @ My Choice Software)
Total: $513.71
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2016-10-06 02:38 EDT-0400

Comparison between the GTX 750 Ti and the R7 360 running Dark Souls 3 with settings as close as possible to PS4: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TZsITS8_JAY. Both are overclocked, so there's that. Basically, at worst, stable 30 FPS. The guy who did the Dark Souls 3 RX 460 video also has one with the 750 Ti.

Between the two builds, I don't suggest the first one. Why? The platform is limiting and is going to be succeeded by AMD Zen's APUs coming later. Reason why I didn't try using any of the FX-based Athlon X4 CPUs of that platform since while they're quad-core and have a slight edge on the i3 in multi-core stuff, their single-core performance is weaker and games are kind of more single-core than multi-core. It also resulted in about the same price as the i3 build despite making it as inexpensive as possible. There's also the problem of CPU bottlenecking which you can look up. This is all in spite of CPUs generally not needing to be upgraded as often compared to GPUs. Intel's i5-2500K is still running strong and that's a 5 year-old CPU only slightly weaker to recent i5's. AMD's good on paper, bad in practice FX CPUs put them way behind Intel while their APUs was a relatively new thing, so they're just in a tight spot. For reference, their older (not-FX) Athlon and Phenom CPUs were arguably competition for Intel's i3 and i5's.

If you can, get something like the second build with the RX 460 or possibly the not-yet released GTX 1050 Ti if it's priced at that range which could make the previous generation's GTX 950 an option. If not, then the GTX 750 Ti which while older, should be fine -- there are people still running GTX 4XX GPUs. Target here is a PC that can game well and maybe slightly better than a PS4 not a PC that can game at max settings, 60-120 FPS, 1440p, 4K, VR, and is pimped out as can be with rims and ****.

I feel like I'm shoving "PC! PC! PC! BUILD A PC!" down your throat.

Edit: I make a mention of stuff being Windows 10-only and I put down Windows 7 for chips that are Windows 10-only...

Edit 2: Edit Harder: Dark Souls 3 should probably be played with a controller. It's doable with mouse and keyboard, though.

You shouldn't be forced to buy a dual core if you want a good $500 PC.

Or buy AMD CPUs ever.

Or be forced to use Windows 10.

 

[EODM07]

Here you go gorls. That Pac-Man tech I mentioned in my previous post.

 

[Buddhahobo]

As a bored gorl would do in ha spare time, I decided to look up "Fū'j'n" for fun.
And you get two results.
Both being kanji

Funny enough I recently learned that Fujin is actually Boreas, the Greek God of the Northern Wind and Winter. It was transmitted via the Silk Road from the pantheons of the Indo-Greek kingdoms to China and the like, then ended up in Japan as a Buddhist deity under a new name.

 

[EODM07]

I've now got some recorded footage of myself doing all of Pac-Man's combos from a Platformed UAir.

Yes, I am calling it the Platformed UAir. I was going to call it a Grounded UAir, but that would mean it would work even on FD (Which is impossible). Going to posting all the videos onto YouTube and them edit them together to show off each combo.

I've also used a different variety of characters as a way to show that they can work.

 

[Eddie The Pacifist]

Funny enough I recently learned that Fujin is actually Boreas, the Greek God of the Northern Wind and Winter. It was transmitted via the Silk Road from the pantheons of the Indo-Greek kingdoms to China and the like, then ended up in Japan as a Buddhist deity under a new name.

Now I wonder why exactly the blithering hell did Fujin choose that name.

 

[Buddhahobo]

Now I wonder why exactly the blithering hell did Fujin choose that name.

It does put a new spin on the whole "Winter is Coming" phrase.

Turns out the entire plot of Game of Thrones is just Fujin trying to orchestrate a new account after getting banned. With zombies for some reason, but I'm sure it made perfectly good sense at the time.

 

[EODM07]

So I've now made that video showing off Pac-Man's PUA (Platformed UAir) as a combo tool. Should I go and post this on the Pac-Man boards gorls?

 

[Rizen]

So I've now made that video showing off Pac-Man's PUA (Platformed UAir) as a combo tool. Should I go and post this on the Pac-Man boards gorls?

Why not?

 

[EODM07]

Why not?

Good point.

I'll go and post it there, might as well help out the Pac-Mains a bit. :V
Thanks to Rizen. I've posted it on the Metagame & MU Thread on the Pac-Man boards. Hope I did right. :V

 

[FullMoon]

Nature always finds a way

 

[EODM07]

This was me when I finished the Ace Attorney anime and wrote that review about it:

 

[Eddie The Pacifist]

Nature always finds a way

Better animation than anime Sun and Moon

 

[Lorde]

Dartrix >> Brionne > Torracat

Litten is still the worst Alola starter

It's an edgy anime meme cat and then it becomes even edgier and even uglier

no thank you

 

[Buddhahobo]

It's an edgy anime meme cat and then it becomes even edgier and even uglier

...it's a pudgy black and orange tabby cat. What in the hell makes it edgy of all things?

Like, is this also edgy to you?

 

[Burgundy]

Dartrix >> Brionne > Torracat

Litten is still the worst Alola starter

It's an edgy anime meme cat and then it becomes even edgier and even uglier

no thank you

Rating the Alola starters is pointless cause they're all perfect
Brionne a little more than the others but they're all still great

 

[Eddie The Pacifist]

Brionne creeps me out
Dartrix is actually pretty funny. I like it, but don't love it
Torracat is unoriginal. They're playing it safe. But I do think the design is a step up from Litten.

 

[Lorde]

Bad starters exist, so there's no point in denying it

I reserve my final judgement for when the final forms are revealed, but things are not looking good for Litten (especially if it becomes the wrestler thing)

As long as they don't ruin Rowlet, I'm fine

 

[EODM07]

I'm going to go with Team Popplio. First it was going to be Rowlet, but now I'm leaning towards Popplio now. It's probably because I've started with Water in every generation except Gen 2 where I started with Fire.

 

[Eddie The Pacifist]

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[Y2Kay]

Robinhoot is gonna be dope af

I'm team rowlet now I guess, but all of the starters seem really good if you ask me.

 

[Rizen]

This was me when I finished the Ace Attorney anime and wrote that review about it:

I followed the youtube links; the guy who plays Robbie Rotten is really funny. He's like the next Jim Carrey.

 

[Buddhahobo]

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That is perfectly reasonable reporting by Fox News.

Hurricane Matthew is category 4. That isn't holding out in the basement tier, that's "get the **** outta dodge" tier.

Category 5 is your house and the surrounding area are wood chippings.

I'm being entirely serious; if you know someone who lives in the projected path (i.e., anything ~30 miles or so from the coast from Florida to North Carolina, maybe even Virginia and Maryland) , call them up and tell them to go spend the next few days over at a Holiday Inn or something 50 miles further inland.

There is a reason the weather channel did the same thing. A lot of people think they've dealt with "hurricanes" and it's just another one to weather through. It isn't.

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"This storm will kill you," [Florida Governor] Scott said during a morning briefing at the state Emergency Operations Center in Tallahassee. If "you're in an evacuation area, get out. Don't take a chance."

 

[ZephyrZ]

Who decided hurricanes should be given human names anyway? Mathew isn't a very scary name.

I'd name them after Greek titans or something. "Hurricane Kronos" or "Hurricane Atlas" would sound way more impressive than "Hurricane Phillip".

 

[Lavani]

Completed Gunvolt 2's story modes and got both true endings, discovered that unlocked a Score Attack mode with online leaderboards. Time to lose hours upon hours of my life.

I'm coming for you, Japan.

 

[Buddhahobo]

Who decided hurricanes should be given human names anyway? Mathew isn't a very scary name.

I'd name them after Greek titans or something. "Hurricane Kronos" or "Hurricane Atlas" would sound way more impressive than "Hurricane Phillip".

http://oceanservice.noaa.gov/facts/storm-names.html

Until the early 1950s, tropical storms and hurricanes were tracked by year and the order in which they occurred during that year. Over time, it was learned that the use of short, easily remembered names in written as well as spoken communications is quicker and reduces confusion when two or more tropical storms occur at the same time. In the past, confusion and false rumors resulted when storm advisories broadcast from radio stations were mistaken for warnings concerning an entirely different storm located hundreds of miles away.

In 1953, the United States began using female names for storms and, by 1978, both male and female names were used to identify Northern Pacific storms. This was then adopted in 1979 for storms in the Atlantic basin.

NOAA’s National Hurricane Center does not control the naming of tropical storms. Instead, there is a strict procedure established by the World Meteorological Organization. For Atlantic hurricanes, there is a list of male and female names which are used on a six-year rotation. The only time that there is a change is if a storm is so deadly or costly that the future use of its name on a different storm would be inappropriate. In the event that more than twenty-one named tropical cyclones occur in a season, any additional storms will take names from the Greek alphabet.

Katrina and Sandy, for instance, would be names that have most likely been retired.

 

[Antonykun]

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/prepatchbayonettamu

 

[Burgundy]

Completed Gunvolt 2's story modes and got both true endings, discovered that unlocked a Score Attack mode with online leaderboards. Time to lose hours upon hours of my life.

I'm coming for you, Japan.

I still haven't managed to get the true ending in the first game

 

[McKnightlíght]

Completed Gunvolt 2's story modes and got both true endings, discovered that unlocked a Score Attack mode with online leaderboards. Time to lose hours upon hours of my life.

I'm coming for you, Japan.

Do you develop your own speed run strategies or do you mimic others you have seen?