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[EODM07]

Shulk can be by Olimar. I never played his game.

From what I remember, Shulk is a scientist who works in Colony 9 for the Defence Force; he has worked on machinery before and often looked for parts at a scrap yard close by to the Colony. He also was researching the Monado as well before the whole incident that happened at the colony during a Mechon invasion.

 

[Burgundy]

I included Link and TL as one character denoted by the /.

TBH IDK much about Pokemon anime but I did say several characters from B could be in A tier. This applies to FE characters and Bayo too.
The most strategy Palutena has shown is to throw Pit at the problem.
Fox has gone on solo puzzle solving ground missions like Starfox Adventures Dinosaur Planet and commanded operations in Starfox command.

Medical degree and doctorate are not conflicting terms and in many countries one must have a doctorate to have a medical degree. I admit that isn't always true though. Regardless, "Doctor" Mario doesn't have one. He's Mario with a white coat and stethoscope who runs around throwing pills at odd characters.

Shulk can be by Olimar. I never played his game.

No. DDD and Kirby are dumb.

No. Sonic is athletic but never showed anything near the level of human intelligence. Bowser has minions that build his c***. He's a buffoon. He doesn't have a better answer to anything than to punch it.

Sonic may not be a genius but he's not a dumbass lmao

 

[Buddhahobo]

The most strategy Palutena has shown is to throw Pit at the problem.

Yet (basic) strategy is only one of the reasons you put someone in A rank. Governance was another.

Bowser has minions that build his c***. He's a buffoon. He doesn't have a better answer to anything than to punch it.

The most strategy Ganondorf has shown is have his mummies brainwash everyone in the vicinity to do his bidding, and shoot lightning at people who aren't brainwashed. Ganondorf's main talent is the ability to find incredibly capable people for what plans he wants doing and making them entirely dependent upon him, whether through the already-mentioned brainwashing magic or basic social conditioning, like with Zant and Cia.

Beyond that he's pretty much like how you described the other two; solve the problem by hitting it until it breaks. Yet you have him as A rank.

The problem with your first three ranks is it's basically "Exceptional", "Above Average", and "Average (for a Human)". But your criteria mostly has it as "This person was trained in a specialty, so they're A rank. This person was trained in a specialty I don't care about as much, so they're B rank. And lolplumbers, C rank".

This in turn leads to a list that can't really be called self-consistent.

Medical degree and doctorate are not conflicting terms and in many countries one must have a doctorate to have a medical degree

What countries require doctorates before one can practice medicine?

 

[Rizen]

Sonic may not be a genius but he's not a ******* lmao

Sonic can't tie his shoes.

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The most strategy Ganondorf has shown is have his mummies brainwash everyone in the vicinity to do his bidding, and shoot lightning at people who aren't brainwashed. Ganondorf's main talent is the ability to find incredibly capable people for what plans he wants doing and making them entirely dependent upon him, whether through the already-mentioned brainwashing magic or basic social conditioning, like with Zant and Cia.

Beyond that he's pretty much like how you described the other two; solve the problem by hitting it until it breaks. Yet you have him as A rank.

The problem with your first three ranks is it's basically "Exceptional", "Above Average", and "Average (for a Human)". But your criteria mostly has it as "This person was trained in a specialty, so they're A rank. This person was trained in a specialty I don't care about as much, so they're B rank. And lolplumbers, C rank"

Ganon has mastery of sorcery, he infiltrated Hyrule and attacked from within (Ocarina of time and ALttP). He's been one of the most successful military strategists in all of video games. Branches of the LoZ timelines revolve around his rule. He only real downfall is his arrogance.

This last paragraph is entirely strawmen.

 

[McKnightlíght]

Rizen what is the world is this illusive curse word that begins with a c?

I feel like I should know it.

 

[Rizen]

Rizen what is the world is this illusive curse word that begins with a c?

I feel like I should know it.

Cr*p. Means poop. I didn't mean the other four letter C word that ends with 't'.

 

[Buddhahobo]

Sonic can't tie his shoes.

Neither can Falco, and you have him as B rank.

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Ganon has mastery of sorcery,

So does Bowser, and he's taken over Mushroom Kingdom multiple times.

Yet you have him as below human intelligence.

My last paragraph isn't a strawman, it's an accurate summation of your list.

 

[Lavani]

to be fair, if your shoelaces came untied and you tripped on them while running at the speed of sound, you wouldn't have a good day

 

[Rizen]

Buddhahobo okay whatever.

to be fair, if your shoelaces came untied and you tripped on them while running at the speed of sound, you wouldn't have a good day

Think how much money he must spend on shoes too. I like Sonic's shoe design from SA2.

 

[Eddie The Pacifist]

I think you're all taking this a bit too seriously.
Just my 25 cents.
Good discussion otherwise.

 

[ZephyrZ]

I've worn shoes without shoelaces before. I'm incredibly lazy, so it was great! It didn't mean I don't know how to tie my shoes though.

Also do note than in OoT, the Triforce of Wisdom rejected Ganondorf, implying he isn't "wise". Winning through deceit and strength doesn't make you smart. One of the best liars I know is actually a complete idiot, but you won't believe what she gets away with saying sometimes.

 

[Virtue]

Gonna interrupt your discussion of character's intelligences to make an important observation:

Happy Mean Girls day

 

[Eddie The Pacifist]

Gonna interrupt your discussion of character's intelligences to make an important observation:
View attachment 118470
Happy Mean Girls day

Since when was there a "Mean Gorls day"?
Is this something the social came up with?

 

[Lil Puddin]

Since when was there a "Mean Gorls day"?
Is this something the social came up with?

Everyday is Mean Gorls Day, last I checked.

 

[Lorde]

As long as Evan, greening, and I are here, every day is Mean Gorls Day

We are the culT

 

[ZephyrZ]

Since when was there a "Mean Gorls day"?
Is this something the social came up with?

Don't you know? The concept for Mean Girls originated from the Zelda social back in the year 1617 and was put into development when it was sponsored by President Abraham Lincoln on October 3rd, 1618. Originally it was going to be called "Mean Gorls", but "Girls" was considered more suitable for the casual viewer.

 

[Ffamran]

Ffamran I mean my current computer is a rock from 2005ish and IDK c*** about computers lol. I just need something that plays games and preforms other basic functions. Thanks for all the info but I'm a total noob about building computers.

You have not gamed until you tried playing below minimum settings. Old *** PC ran Fable: The Lost Chapters below 15 frames and guess what? I played the game to the end and it was awesome. Helps that as a kid you could fill in some details and mana potions were cheap so I could chug them to use the barrier shield thing. People complain about games being 30 FPS as "unplayable" and I'm sitting here wondering about the old games and people who dealt with crap systems playing at sub-15 FPS or with constant frame drops. Sure, there were games way back then that were 60 FPS, but come on, we've dealt with worst. That being said, stable 60 FPS is what should be the norm in my opinion. At the very least, stable 30 FPS which developers fail at sometimes intentionally to make their games look good. Slideshows are not fun games, goddammit.

PCs aren't that difficult to understand or build, especially nowadays. Compare back then with proprietary stuff and just not knowing. Those old PCs were like you could add in more RAM, swap out an optical drive, and hard drive, but that's it. Have fun figuring out everything else and seeing if stuff can be transferred -- had a motherboard be completely different in screw layout than being similar, but smaller or larger like between ATX and mATX. Also learned about the difference between PCI and PCI-e the hard way. Then there's the thing where PCs sold at retailers cost way much more than building one or buying a used one from an office surplus store -- you can get a decent office, everyday usage PC for like $20 where I live. Anyway, PC building today is more like building with Lego; PC building back then without internet, anyone knowledgeable with PCs, etc. was like brain surgery.

Guides are simple too like this from PCPartPicker: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XmUQ8gbzaEA.

This older one from NCIX Tech Tips: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=84NvDMMrCNU. They also have tips: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lHQGjGPK1Jw.

If you must buy a gaming PC, there are retailers like Alienware -- overpriced --, Digital Storm, iBuyPower, MSI, etc. Still, you're not going to get your money's worth compared to building one. Digital Storm's cheapest offering is the Vanquish 5 with the lowest specs being this at $980: http://www.digitalstorm.com/vanquish-5.asp.

Spoiler: Digital Storm Vanquish 5 base specs

CPU: Intel i5 6500
CPU cooler: I think their own CPU cooler? Not sure on this one.
Motherboard: ASUS or Gigabyte Intel H110
Memory: 8GB DDR4 2133MHz
Storage: 1 TB Seagate or Toshiba HDD
GPU: Nvidia GTX 1060 6GB
Case: Digital Storm Vanquish 5
PSU: 500W EVGA or Corsair PSU
Optical drive: Unknown model, usual CD/DVD
Operating system: Windows 10

Plus some other stuff like a 1-year service card for McAfee anti-virus -- just use Avast and Malwarebytes for free instead --, Intel CPU boost that just comes by default with Intel CPUs so I don't know why they're advertising that as something special, LED lighting that I don't care for, and warranty service. Also, note that since optical drives aren't as commonly used for some, it is technically optional which drops the price down to $959.

The main things you'd be looking at are the CPU, i5 6500, and GPU, GTX 1060 6GB, for gaming which coincidentally are not only good overall parts that would be great for Dark Souls 3 and current and upcoming games in general, but what @r_greening1 suggested. With the i5 6500 and GTX 1060 6GB -- I repeat: don't get the 3GB one -- as the core components, I'd build this.

Spoiler: i5 6500 and GTX 1060 6GB based build

PCPartPicker part list: http://pcpartpicker.com/list/Qdwdbj
Price breakdown by merchant: http://pcpartpicker.com/list/Qdwdbj/by_merchant/

CPU: Intel Core i5-6500 3.2GHz Quad-Core Processor ($197.88 @ OutletPC)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($29.99 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: MSI H110M Gaming Micro ATX LGA1151 Motherboard ($61.98 @ Newegg)
Memory: Avexir Core Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR4-2400 Memory ($39.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($49.49 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: Gigabyte GeForce GTX 1060 6GB 6GB WINDFORCE OC 6G Video Card ($259.99 @ B&H)
Case: Fractal Design Define R4 (Black Pearl) ATX Mid Tower Case ($64.99 @ NCIX US)
Power Supply: Corsair CXM 550W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply ($54.00 @ Newegg)
Optical Drive: Asus DRW-24B1ST/BLK/B/AS DVD/CD Writer ($17.88 @ OutletPC)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 10 Home OEM 64-bit ($85.70 @ My Choice Software)
Total: $861.89
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2016-10-03 14:14 EDT-0400

I did pick some things that can be considered "unnecessary" like the case which you could go for something cheaper like the NZXT Source 210 which usually runs at $40 windowless and CPU cooler which would be better and the optical drive are still optional. That's still about $100 less than Digital Storm's offering for arguably, better parts in select areas like the CPU cooler, case, PSU -- this one is semi-modular which Digital Storm's might not be.

For about the same price as the Digital Storm Vanquish 5's base specs, you can swap out the GTX 1060 for the stronger GTX 1070 which would definitely run any game maxed at 60 FPS and 1080p.

Spoiler: Above build, but with a GTX 1070

PCPartPicker part list: http://pcpartpicker.com/list/MVyYd6
Price breakdown by merchant: http://pcpartpicker.com/list/MVyYd6/by_merchant/

CPU: Intel Core i5-6500 3.2GHz Quad-Core Processor ($197.88 @ OutletPC)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($29.99 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: MSI H110M Gaming Micro ATX LGA1151 Motherboard ($61.98 @ Newegg)
Memory: Avexir Core Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR4-2400 Memory ($39.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($49.49 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: Gigabyte GeForce GTX 1070 8GB Windforce OC Video Card ($396.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Case: Fractal Design Define R4 (Black Pearl) ATX Mid Tower Case ($64.99 @ NCIX US)
Power Supply: Corsair CXM 550W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply ($54.00 @ Newegg)
Optical Drive: Asus DRW-24B1ST/BLK/B/AS DVD/CD Writer ($17.88 @ OutletPC)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 10 Home OEM 64-bit ($85.70 @ My Choice Software)
Total: $998.89
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2016-10-03 14:22 EDT-0400

If you don't care for optical drives, would rather have a GTX 1060 6GB or lower like a GTX 1050 (Ti) or AMD's RX 470 and running things reasonably rather than trying to max out at 60 FPS and 1080p, say you want a smaller system, etc., you can do several things. For example, you could opt to go full SSD and have 16GB of RAM instead of a GTX 1070. Or go for an overclockable i5 6500K which you would need a Z-board. It's just swapping out parts and figuring out what you want.

Also, yes, I'm biased to building PCs.

 

[EODM07]

Gonna interrupt your discussion of character's intelligences to make an important observation:
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Happy Mean Girls day

Funny that it's my sister's birthday today as well.

 

[Eddie The Pacifist]

Oh. Ma. Gawd

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so there's a house that needs to get a little bit bigger....

— Bear (@BearUNLV) October 3, 2016

Also, I've just had the sudden realisation that TBH is only 4 days away, holy crap.

 

[Lil Puddin]

Don't you know? The concept for Mean Girls originated from the Zelda social back in the year 1617 and was put into development when it was sponsored by President Abraham Lincoln on October 3rd, 1618. Originally it was going to be called "Mean Gorls", but "Girls" was considered more suitable for the casual viewer.

I learn so much from you gorls. Specifically, I learned how much I shouldn't trust the information displayed here.

Yup.

 

[EODM07]

So I've now finished two shows today.

Mob Psycho 100 and Flying Witch (I won't talk about Flying Witch in depth, it's very relaxing though and feels very PG. Hardly any swearing (Maybe in about two episodes) and only small times we see a character drunk).

Anyway! Onto Mob Psycho 100!

Spoiler: Overall thoughts

For those who are waiting patently for the second season of One Punch Man to come around, this show will definitely fill in that hole for some ONE goodness.

Mob Psycho 100 is the brainchild of One Punch Man's creator ONE, the show definitely shows how loyal it is being even to the art style. So let's get to it. :V

The plot of the series is a rather simple one; follows the lead character Shigeo (Mob being his nickname by Reigen) who has PSI abilities and capable of seeing ghosts, espers and spirits as he has to deal with the unnatural, opposing PSI users and so on, plus having to deal with his occasional explosive moments as well. It is a very simple plot which I can stick with just for the REALLY fun and interesting cast of characters.

Now, the animation and art style... many say it is an incredible low budget and they're right. But it makes up for it by staying close to the original art style and using that budget to its advantage when it comes to really fantastic fight scenes. It was animated by BONES, the same that worked on My Hero Academia, Soul Eater, Ace Attorney: Dual Destinies' anime cutscenes and so on. This anime is also just brimming with parts that are just perfect for reaction images/gifs.

The music is pretty great as well, the OP being "99" by MOB CHOIR is very cool yet with a very strange and unique Opening sequence. I do like the Ending theme as well, "ALL OFF" by Refrain Boys which also has a fantastic ED animation as well with just using nothing but black ink, it is just fantastic to look at.

Out of all of the characters, I have to side with Reigen and Dimple being my favourite ones out of the entire batch. Mob who is voiced by Setsuo Ite, does a great job of portraying who I see as a rather younger but more emotional version of Saitama plus having his own morals to follow thanks to Reigen played by Takahiro Sakurai who is just a REALLY great and funny character, being such a con artist and trying to think up of numerous ideas to get some easy money, but also very caring too about his disciple Mob as well.

I definitely recommend this show if you're after something new from ONE, it's funny, great cast of characters, goes for some unexpected turns you wouldn't expect and while it isn't One Punch Man; it is definitely worth checking out.

Mob Psycho 100 gets 4 es out of 5. Definitely recommend checking it out if you want something different.

I learn so much from you gorls. Specifically, I learned how much I shouldn't trust the information displayed here.

Yup.

Will that bit of trivia be on the test?

 

[McKnightlíght]

You guys know that Link actually can't tie shoes right?

 

[Rizen]

There's more to it than shoes... forget about it.

 

[Burgundy]

Oh ****
New Pokken character to be revealed on the 13th!

 

[Lorde]

is pokken even relevant anymore?

did they ever even add darkrai to console

 

[Burgundy]

is pokken even relevant anymore?

did they ever even add darkrai to console

Yeah, it's still goin. It's not nearly as big as it could be, but the community is still there
And
They're doing the typical Namco thing where they keep new stuff exclusive to arcade for a while so they can get more money
Like how Tekken 6 was arcade exclusive for like 2 years
And eventually they'll release it on console later
Everyone expects them to give us Darkrai and the other new characters all at once
And we know Darkrai is coming to Wii U since some of his files are on the most recent patch
As well as some files labeled Scizor and Empoleon

Here's a good article on it: http://pokkenarena.boards.net/thread/1909/ignore-noise-format-info-announced

 

[ZephyrZ]

is pokken even relevant anymore?

did they ever even add darkrai to console

I still like to play Pokken from time to time.

As far as Darkrai goes, though, he's never actually been added. Apparently data miners found evidence that he's coming to the Wii U version eventually, though.

Edit: 'd. Also Scizor and Empoleon? Eh, I'm not a huge fan of either of those. I guess I shouldn't get too excited.

 

[Burgundy]

Empoleon is my fav sinnoh starter so that's hype
I'm interested who could the 4th one be
Cause Darkrai, Scizor, and Empoleon would leave one empty spot
Maybe the true king would finally be unleashed on this mortal world

 

[Antonykun]

i would like to play pokken but goddamn is synergy a stupid mechanic

 

[ZephyrZ]

I'm a Shadow Mewtwo main and I absolutely love synergy.

I absolutely despise fighting freaking Mega Gengar though. It's pretty much guaranteed to get a free round off me if it pulls of a synergy burst, and it's so stupid that you can't block its synergy move.

 

[Cress!]

New characters are coo, Empoleon could end up being my new favorite character depending on how he plays.
But I don't think it'll buy my attention back, Pokken just isn't that interesting for me... Maybe if they added some COMPLETELY out of place character I'll play it again, like Chimecho.

...

.....Great now I really want Chimecho in the game. #CHIMECHO•FOR•POKKEN

 

[Lil Puddin]

New characters are coo, Empoleon could end up being my new favorite character depending on how he plays.
But I don't think it'll buy my attention back, Pokken just isn't that interesting for me... Maybe if they added some COMPLETELY out of place character I'll play it again, like Chimecho.

...

.....Great now I really want Chimecho in the game. #CHIMECHO•FOR•POKKEN

Budew or go home.

 

[Y2Kay]

There absolute insistence to be different from smash by not including Greninja annoys me so much.

So many people want him in. So why not?

If I just can't have Greninja, Absol would be dope too.

 

[Rizen]

There absolute insistence to be different from smash by not including Greninja annoys me so much.

So many people want him in. So why not?

Icky tongue scarf.

 

[Lil Puddin]

There absolute insistence to be different from smash by not including Greninja annoys me so much.

So many people want him in. So why not?

If I just can't have Greninja, Absol would be dope too.

Weeaboo frog is too busy with his waifu Genji and husbando Sasuke to be in another fighting game.

And also:

Icky tongue scarf.

 

[BJN39]

>Still no Mawile files/addition



Pokken is done gurls

 

[McKnightlíght]

There's more to it than shoes... forget about it.

You're right. That's why I made this.
Shoe Tying Tier List
S:
A:
B:
C:
D:
E:
F:

 

[ZephyrZ]

So I got Gimp 2 to work. Who knew that all I had to do was delete it and reinstall it? No more garbage image editing websites for me.

Furthermore, I found this neat Japanese site that let's you play around with Etrian Odyssey V character customization. Naturally I had to slap a group picture of my planned guild.

I still don't have names for any of them, but I'll figure it out eventually. The US version hasn't even had an official announcement, so I've probably got plenty of time for that.

Who aside from me gives two flying magic carps about Etrian Odyssey anyway?

 

[Lavani]

Furthermore, I found this neat Japanese site that let's you play around with Etrian Odyssey V character customization.

site pls

Who aside from me gives two flying magic carps about Etrian Odyssey anyway?

I LOVE EO

or at least 2 and 3, haven't played 1/4 (though I own 4) and I didn't really care for EOU/ignored EOU2.

eo2 and eo3 are among my favorite RPGs though

 

[Cardboardtubeknight]

Whats up sexy people?