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Since I don't drink can I get a milkshake? :D
What time is good for you?
Novelty of the buffs wears off when you realize that:
101% agreedNovelty of the buffs wears off when you realize that:
• Already had Finger bang hoo haa. UAir barely KOs earlier despite the damage buff because they nerfed the KBG. Size is nice, but not a ton really changed. So we'll get 2% more damage there. That's pretty much it. UAir still needs to be landed in other non-setup situations for that new damage to matter.
• Ftilt actually gained 1F of raw endlag despite the duration reduction...secretkpop It's because of how they handled the startup buff
• NAir still has endlag all over and likely didn't gain anything from the damage outside of more damage.
Let me be clear before a bunch of people get upset by my "negative" (realistic) message: the damage buffs are hilariously and great, and Ftilt needed to be buffed, they shouldn't be ignored, but too many people are jumping on these changes as our savior way too quick when almost nothing that was a real issue was addressed. Zelda is the same highly flawed character of 1.1.4. Only now some moves do more %.
Jab hilariosity's novelty, however, won't wear off.
Edit: Also noting that Nayru is omitted from my comments because the intangibility buff is legitimately useful and changes things.
can't wait to get back to college so I can try out these nifty buffs! Thank you for being so gud to us new folks - I'll be over here mooching off your hard work until I can contribute 
Like now is good.
There's some potential situations that need to be tested. Could lead to something, but I think an aerial NAir into NAir string seems less likely to be true.
I think I was landing nair to fair/bair much more consistently yesterday. Might be placebo but maybe 3%>5% difference in the last hit leads to just enough hitstun for that followup?
I don't think the question is how much difference, but if it gave any difference FF Nair, didn't always connect +1 frame could actually make the difference. Before like frame 5 and sooner would easily connect, so that one extra frame could be the difference. So the question would be, is there an extra frame of hitstun there?
Sis you forgot the Dsmash buff too.Novelty of the buffs wears off when you realize that:
• Already had Finger bang hoo haa. UAir barely KOs earlier despite the damage buff because they nerfed the KBG. Size is nice, but not a ton really changed. So we'll get 2% more damage there. That's pretty much it. UAir still needs to be landed in other non-setup situations for that new damage to matter.
• Ftilt actually gained 1F of raw endlag despite the duration reduction...secretkpop It's because of how they handled the startup buff
• NAir still has endlag all over and likely didn't gain anything from the damage outside of more damage.
Let me be clear before a bunch of people get upset by my "negative" (realistic) message: the damage buffs are hilariously and great, and Ftilt needed to be buffed, they shouldn't be ignored, but too many people are jumping on these changes as our savior way too quick when almost nothing that was a real issue was addressed. Zelda is the same highly flawed character of 1.1.4. Only now some moves do more %.
Jab hilariosity's novelty, however, won't wear off.
Edit: Also noting that Nayru is omitted from my comments because the intangibility buff is legitimately useful and changes things.
because it's like the Ftilt buff, nice, but doesn't change anything
Frame 5 move with frame 37 FAF, you're asking for a lot
that was because of crouch cancel
Sure sis, lemme boot up the WeebU.
Thank you. Should I open the room?
Yea.
Jab now has +3 frame advantage against shields. since DTilt and DSmash are frame 5 moves, that means that only frame 2 or faster moves beat them (that would be Mac's and ZSS' jab and Jigglypuffs Rest IIRC) after blocking Zelda's jab.Sis you forgot the Dsmash buff too.
The one you called, remember?
Yes I know it's not that significant I just wanted a chance to be a *****
Real talk though, we've barely talked about that buff at all. I wonder if it could potentially have a little shield pressure usage now, like Jab>Dsmash on a weakened shield being slightly less risky.
Maybe we could even go back to our Melee Dsmash spam :secretzpop:
. The only reason I've decided to register in this forums was 1, discuss about my mains and 2, I LOVE this social. Been reading like 600 pages of it and been having many lols.Hi gorls!
I'm new here. Hope I can enjoy reading about how zeldawful is
buzzard
Jab is only +2 (From +1) on shield now, and only on drop. OoS is -5. (From -6) That said Zelda is safe against many grabs OoS now lol. Only if she dodged immediately and they actually were grabbing is it useful.According to this it's +3 now (-4 OoS). It was +2 (-5 OoS) in the previous patch. But I don't know if that information is correct or not.Edit:
11% is still lol
His data is ew.
Lavani
can you help me confirm which is correct?
Then go help me with all my block data smh it's probably all a MESS.
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I prob shouldn't rag on it too hard, but I'd never use it for footsies like that
I'd rather have a jank hitbox with Usmash honestly, which right now only the last hit is
I'm told lucario's recovery is super easy to intercept anyways
from official, note Ftilt might be frame 9, the diffs state it as such
The best thing for us is that you can protect from Bayo's smashes on reaction, and still have enough frames to counter. I'll upload a video. Hold up.
Have you ever had a really stale poppyseed muffin? Now that muffin has butter smeared on top
Lil Puddin
! I'm really rusty since I haven't played consistently in months. Thanks for playing against me.
I believe I calculated with total frames *head scratch* my guess was something to do with only using a simple equation.
