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Kofu

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Lavani said:
Like...I honestly thought it wouldn't be an issue when I first picked :4corrinf: up, but I've died to low percent gimps as Corrin more in my first week of playing her than I ever have playing Rosa. You don't need something like Rosa's dair to beat it; dairs like Wario's can beat it too as long as you know where the hitboxes are, and even if you trade that just means you take 1% while Corrin loses her stock. Corrin just dies offstage without her double jump, Rosa doesn't.

So yeah, Rosalina's no-hitbox-no-invincibility recovery is so much better. I'll take distance (and startup) over hitbox any day.
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My comment was partially facetious because it seemed like you were complaining more about the lack of invincibility and the hitboxes being only on the sides of Corrin. So I had to take a jab at that.

Launch Star is a very good recovery move for travel speed and distance but its lack of a hitbox is a real weakness. My character has startup, distance, a hitbox, an invincibility on his recovery :lick: Might as well take all four!
 
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So have I finally ascended to greatness now that I've had the social titled after me?
 
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#oop I guess you gorls weren't ready for round 2
 
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Chez G.

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Lavani said:
Like...I honestly thought it wouldn't be an issue when I first picked :4corrinf: up, but I've died to low percent gimps as Corrin more in my first week of playing her than I ever have playing Rosa. You don't need something like Rosa's dair to beat it; dairs like Wario's can beat it too as long as you know where the hitboxes are, and even if you trade that just means you take 1% while Corrin loses her stock. Corrin just dies offstage without her double jump, Rosa doesn't.

So yeah, Rosalina's no-hitbox-no-invincibility recovery is so much better. I'll take distance (and startup) over hitbox any day.
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I've just realized how similar Corrin's up-B is to Rosalina's. For one, changing the angle of recovery is a bit hard to get hang of.

Wait...
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Either I've time traveled to 1986 or I've just missed the introduction of a new fad here as usual.
 
Lavani

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Kofu said:
My comment was partially facetious because it seemed like you were complaining more about the lack of invincibility and the hitboxes being only on the sides of Corrin. So I had to take a jab at that.

Launch Star is a very good recovery move for travel speed and distance but its lack of a hitbox is a real weakness. My character has startup, distance, a hitbox, an invincibility on his recovery :lick: Might as well take all four!
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I mean, yeah, I was pretty iffy on how abusable Launch Star was before

but playing a character who sometimes can't make it back to the stage in a game where everyone can make it back to the stage sure changed my opinion on that quickly

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FEAR ME MORTALS

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something something monkey business

I wanted to replace Luma with Ganondorf but since she's an article instead of a playable character I don't think I can just swap files around
 
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Lavani said:
something something monkey business

I wanted to replace Luma with Ganondorf but since she's an article instead of a playable character I don't think I can just swap files around
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Pretty sure I've seen an image where Luma has another character's moveset mapped to him. Even if he did get Ganon's moveset wouldn't all the damage be halved?
 
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Kofu said:
Pretty sure I've seen an image where Luma has another character's moveset mapped to him. Even if he did get Ganon's moveset wouldn't all the damage be halved?
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It shouldn't be, all the damage numbers displayed in Luma's data files are the numbers that show in-game. Only change would be that attacks would all have an extra startup frame.

I'm highly curious about this, only reason I haven't already tried it is because I get an error halfway through decrypting game files so I'm unable to swap everything. If you find it again pls send it my way.
 
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Lavani said:
It shouldn't be, all the damage numbers displayed in Luma's data files are the numbers that show in-game. Only change would be that attacks would all have an extra startup frame.

I'm highly curious about this, only reason I haven't already tried it is because I get an error halfway through decrypting game files so I'm unable to swap everything. If you find it again pls send it my way.
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I thought Luma's damage values were halved too. Guess I was wrong lol.

Here's the image:



Here's the twitter of who I believe to be the hacker. Best of luck!

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i love how Kofu Kofu and Lavani Lavani are having a casual discussion about GW's up b while Lorde Lorde is faxing people his nudes
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Hey, Game & Watch's Up-B is legit one of the best in the game. It's why I think Balloon High Jump would be a good custom (lacks invincibility, less flexible launch angle I think, can't act out of the move though) if Extreme Balloon Trip wasn't so absurd.

I get turned on more by good Up-Bs than nudes tbh.
 
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Lavani

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Kofu said:
I thought Luma's damage values were halved too. Guess I was wrong lol.

Here's the image:



Here's the twitter of who I believe to be the hacker. Best of luck!
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I WASN'T READY

That looks like Luma's model swapped onto Mac though. I don't think the reverse is possible, is what I was saying.
 
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Lavani

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Kofu said:
OH, so you want Ganondorf's model on Luma. Right? Can't you just do Luma's model on Ganon while still a part of Rosalina?
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So apparently while I can't fully dump 1.1.4 due to it erroring out somewhere around the point of bayo's models (which isn't very far in), I can dump 1.0.0 and I guess I could just do something like replace Luma's model with Ganon's. I don't think I can replace Luma's movements though, so I don't think I could have a Ganon Luma that properly does Ganon usmashes or dairs, for example.

I'll have to poke around with it after I figure out why I can't properly dump the current version I guess.

EDIT: I'm reading stuff that says it'll work on Wii U but crash the game in 3DS :(

EDIT2: Actually I'm theorizing the swaps that crash on 3DS are the ones that are normally 30fps being swapped onto a 60fps player character or vice versa.
 
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