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She's basically Monado jump+speed combined except she doesn't have as much commitment as the Monado boy. Like Monado jump, insane air mobility and a ton of possible combos and gimps. Speed for obvious reasons
Palutena with Superspeed + Lightweight + Jump Glide is so strong like omf did she call Meta Knight If customs are ever allowed in tournaments, I hope someone uses a jump cancelled superspeed usmash + lightweight, jumps, and goes flying off stage to their death :^)
I don't actually like her customs. With my playstyle with her they're kinda weird. Counter works well for escaping some strings, reflect isn't that useful, and I'd actually rather have super speed. Auto reticle is okay, I actually like it. I don't use customs often so I don't even know how I'm supposed to use lightweight, except for that nearly insta kill combo on battlefield.
OH MY GOD I'VE SEEN THIS IN A BOOK STORE BEFORE. I was hanging out with my friends at the mall and we went into Barnes and Noble. Me and my friend Kristen wandered off into some corner and we had found this book. She made me read it out loud and people started looking at me. #AdventuresAtBarnesAndNoble
OH MY GOD I'VE SEEN THIS IN A BOOK STORE BEFORE. I was hanging out with my friends at the mall and we went into Barnes and Noble. Me and my friend Kristen wandered off into some corner and we had found this book. She made me read it out loud and people started looking at me. #AdventuresAtBarnesAndNoble
It only took me 45 minutes, but here are my favorite Pokemon of each type:
and seriously, all electrics types are gross. none of them are very well designed. i mean, i had to resort to a possessed lawn mower for my favorite. pick up your game, electric types
i posted the template on the last page, if anyone else is interested in doing this.
@Lavani
I kinda know a bit about Rosie's customs. I don't know too much about competitive play so take everything I say with a grain of salt.
Here's a small rundown of Rosalina's up and down b customs:
Her up b customs are pretty situational. The one that launches you into the air faster is useless since you lose all flexibility of Rosalina's original recovery but it pretty fast so there's that. Idk why anyone would use it over default, though. The one that gains a hitbox is kinda cool. It only does like 12%, barely goes anywhere, and halts all momentum but it does make gimping her slightly more difficult. (or would it make gimping her easier since it doesn't really go very far. idk that's up to you to decide). I don't think kills until pretty late, too but idk I'd have to test it. 99% of the time, default is better.
Down b customs are in the same boat. Catch and release just pulls people in and hits them for minuscule damage (i just tested and it does 6% in training). The range is terrible (only hits when they're about a character's length away), and the reward on hit isn't really worth it. It might be useful when the opponent doesn't have a projectile, but even then, guardian luma is still probably better in that circumstance. Guardian luma is actually pretty cool (but still situational). It throws out a decently-sized disjointed hitbox and it still nullifies items. However, it doesn't nullify projectiles (or at least, I believe it doesn't. That might merit some testing). It was better before the patch because using it in the air would boost you up, but they removed that :/. Guardian luma is probably the best choice for projectile-less opponents. Default GP is still insanely useful and the best of the 3.
Rosalina's customs are all pretty good and have their uses. Except for power luma shot. That one is just bad.
edit 2: shooting star bit is so insane. i remember seeing seeing like lunar landed aerial canceled into shooting star bit or something along those lines. Rosalina is the queen of just throwing out hitboxes.
Luma Warp combos into Luma's fsmash (or any of its attacks really) and is also fast enough that it can be combo'd into. Nair, Luma Nair, Ftilt, Dtilt, Luma bair, etc etc all set up or true combo into Luma Warp>fsmash for a kill around 70%
Or if you're sitting at Luma Warp range she could just pull that card at any moment without setting up into it.
Also she gets a 4~5% Falco laser without the dumb cooldown, shorthop Shooting Star Bit is actually a thing.
There's stuff with Guardian Luma too I think but I haven't really looked into upB/downB customs for her extensively.
and seriously, all electrics types are gross. none of them are very well designed. i mean, i had to resort to a possessed lawn mower for my favorite. pick up your game, electric types
i posted the template on the last page, if anyone else is interested in doing this
I always feel bad because for some types (especially psychic and flying) I like so many of them and there's only room for one of each type but OH WELL, last time I did this I had this huge pastebin of honorable mentions and I don't feel like typing all that again this time.
and seriously, all electrics types are gross. none of them are very well designed. i mean, i had to resort to a possessed lawn mower for my favorite. pick up your game, electric types
Down b customs are in the same boat. Catch and release just pulls people in and hits them for minuscule damage (i just tested and it does 6% in training). The range is terrible (only hits when they're about a character's length away), and the reward on hit isn't really worth it. It might be useful when the opponent doesn't have a projectile, but even then, guardian luma is still probably better in that circumstance. Guardian luma is actually pretty cool (but still situational). It throws out a decently-sized disjointed hitbox and it still nullifies items. However, it doesn't nullify projectiles (or at least, I believe it doesn't. That might merit some testing). It was better before the patch because using it in the air would boost you up, but they removed that :/. Guardian luma is probably the best choice for projectile-less opponents. Default GP is still insanely useful and the best of the 3.
Worth noting that Guardian Luma makes Luma invincible on top of everything else. I agree that default GP would be better in projectile-heavy matchups, but Guardian Luma would still be more useful if it's item-based projectiles like Pac-Man I think. Maybe.
I'm not actually a big Rotom fan at all; it's just that I like Rotom-Cut's type combination and its design is kinda funny, too. I honestly don't like any of the electric types you mentioned. Mega-Manectric is okay because its design is just hilarious, but I don't like regular Manectric.
I always feel bad because for some types (especially psychic and flying) I like so many of them and there's only room for one of each type but OH WELL, last time I did this I had this huge pastebin of honorable mentions and I don't feel like typing all that again this time.
I felt like this for Psychic (since it's like my second favorite type) and Water. Like the Gardevoir line, Chimecho, the Gothitelle line, Cresselia, Meloetta, Grumpig, Azelf, Victini, and the Mr. Mime line are all great and I love them but I can't put them on all on my list. For water, the Mantine line, the Kingdra line, Milotic, etc. are all gr8, too.
Worth noting that Guardian Luma makes Luma invincible on top of everything else. I agree that default GP would be better in projectile-heavy matchups, but Guardian Luma would still be more useful if it's item-based projectiles like Pac-Man I think. Maybe.
I had no idea that Guardian Luma grants Luma invincibility frames. That's actually pretty cool. However, both default GP and Guardian Luma are pretty laggy, so opponents can bait it out and then punish you for using it. Some Rosalina mains conveniently forget that about GP and say that it single-handedly makes Rosalina win match ups against projectile characters.
Also, I saw something saying that Guardian Luma is slower than default GP. I assume this is incorrect but I have no data. Can you confirm this is untrue?
and seriously, all electrics types are gross. none of them are very well designed. i mean, i had to resort to a possessed lawn mower for my favorite. pick up your game, electric types
i posted the template on the last page, if anyone else is interested in doing this.
I see 3 main problems with your favorites.
1. Your water is wrong, it should be Sharpedo
2. Your dark is wrong, it should be Sharpedo
3. The rest are wrong, they should all be Sharpedo.
I see 3 main problems with your favorites.
1. Your water is wrong, it should be Sharpedo
2. Your dark is wrong, it should be Sharpedo
3. The rest are wrong, they should all be Sharpedo.
I see 3 main problems with your favorites.
1. Your water is wrong, it should be Sharpedo
2. Your dark is wrong, it should be Sharpedo
3. The rest are wrong, they should all be Sharpedo.
tbh i dislike Sharpedo. Carvanha is 100 times cooler
edit: bask in the "glory" of Mega Sharpedo
edit 2: i just noticed that Mega Sharpedo has weird strips of flesh that create little holes in the corners of his mouth. now the image of him opening his mouth too wide and breaking those flesh strips is playing on repeat in my mind. :/
edit 3: Are Mega Sharpedo's "teeth" made of flesh, too? The insides of them are the same color as the inside of his mouth so...
That's actually pretty cool. However, both default GP and Guardian Luma are pretty laggy, so opponents can bait it out and then punish you for using it. Some Rosalina mains conveniently forget that about GP and say that it single-handedly makes Rosalina win match ups against projectile characters.
I like how I was just watching AKA Sword beat Xaltis (Greninja v Rosalina) by throwing a fully charged Water Shuriken at him and then KOing with usmash during GP's end lag. Definitely not a safe tool you can just throw out, how does it shut down projectile characters when it does nothing to exert an offensive presence lol
Also, I saw something saying that Guardian Luma is slower than default GP. I assume this is incorrect but I have no data. Can you confirm this is untrue?
I...think it actually is. Somewhere in the realm of x1.6~x2.0 framespeed multiplier if I remember correctly. Feels a bit slower too. GP is x0.8 and GL is x1.0, so the latter takes 25% longer, comparatively.
tbh i dislike Sharpedo. Carvanha is 100 times cooler
edit: bask in the "glory" of Mega Sharpedo
edit 2: i just noticed that Mega Sharpedo has weird strips of flesh that create little holes in the corners of his mouth. now the image of him opening his mouth too wide and breaking those flesh strips is playing on repeat in my mind. :/
edit 3: Are Mega Sharpedo's "teeth" made of flesh, too? The insides of them are the same color as the inside of his mouth so...
That's what I thought, too. I'd have to sift through the Rosalina and Luma boards/competitive impressions thread (which I'm not going to do), but I distinctly remember a few people saying GP>every single projectile user.
I'm not surprised, though. There are Rosalina mains who think that she has no disadvantageous match ups.
shout out to Mega Camerupt for having the best official artwork for Mega Pokemon.
LOOK HOW EXCITED HE IS. HE'S LIKE "HEY GUYS, I JUST GOT BACK FROM THE SALON!!! OH, AND I GOT THE INSIGNIA OF MY TRAINER'S TEAM BRANDED ONTO MY FOREHEAD."
shhh don't bring him up or he'll appear. You know, like the whole "speak of the devil" thing.
He is pretty cool for giving me a link so I can get Rosalina's amiibo, so I have to give him props for that. He's not as bad as every seems to think. He's just...passionate.
edit: it occurred to me that you could not be talking about the same person i am, so lol nvm then.
Though that DK did have some pretty hype moments, he wasn't very good either honestly. He didn't use grounded upB once in any of his sets, for starters. I don't even know what you're supposed to do as DK except "upB OoS or as a predictive tool a la Rock Smash is an amazing tool" so as far as I'm concerned he broke every rule of playing DK
I was just on FG and I had different Ganondorfs fall out of my fsmash a total of 3 times. Our attacks can't even connect reliably against the large characters lol. Oh ...
shhh don't bring him up or he'll appear. You know, like the whole "speak of the devil" thing.
He is pretty cool for giving me a link so I can get Rosalina's amiibo, so I have to give him props for that. He's not as bad as every seems to think. He's just...passionate.
edit: it occurred to me that you could not be talking about the same person i am, so lol nvm then.
Though that DK did have some pretty hype moments, he wasn't very good either honestly. He didn't use grounded upB once in any of his sets, for starters. I don't even know what you're supposed to do as DK except "upB OoS or as a predictive tool a la Rock Smash is an amazing tool" so as far as I'm concerned he broke every rule of playing DK
He did use ground wirlwind a couple times, but I don't think I saw him out of shield once. He managed to DK punch everyone though. to which the castors just renamed it the dong punch
BUT IT'S CANON!!!!111!!!!1
10/10 you actually made me laugh aloud. By far, that's my favorite post in that thread.
The day I read that thread was also the day when I fell in love with @Aerodrome
I was just on FG and I had different Ganondorfs fall out of my fsmash a total of 3 times. Our attacks can't even connect reliably against the large characters lol. Oh ...
