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CatRaccoonBL

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Gera Gera Po, Gera Gera Po. Gera Gera Po, Gera Gera Po.

Anyway, how is everyone doing.

Morning girls. How's everyone doing? :4zelda:

Just had my breakfast and found I'm one of the Top Comments on Chuggaconroy's newest video on his Pikmin 3 LP.
Hooray for One Punch Man references. :V

[/spoiler]
I need to catch up on his videos.
 

EODM07

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I need to catch up on his videos.
Well, he did take two weeks off from uploading any of his LPs so he could focus on uploading the Sonic Adventure LP he is doing with NintendoCapriSun and ProtonJon. Glad I'm watching TRG playing that game, since the Game Grumps LP of Sonic Adventure was just a trainwreck.

Also, Mario Maker finally got the update. The checkpoint system is really interesting and the ability to add a Mushroom over a Fire Flower/Super Feather/Super Leaf/Propeller Mushroom is a nice option. Hard Mode Gnat Attack feels like I'm going to lose my wirst. :V


Also, if Gintoki is this fast, I should ask him to get Xenoblade X for me. :secretkpop:
 

SBphiloz4

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You reappear (and become vulnerable) to snap to the ledge, and you snap to the ledge from whatever direction you're coming at it from.

This is why I tell people Zelda is not a top 10 recovery character

Because nobody knows how to deal with this teleport stuff other than us, we can actually get away with it

Which is why we must move BAN•ZELDA forward as fast as possible before everyone finds out we are not truly banworthy
 

Rizen

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This is why I tell people Zelda is not a top 10 recovery character

Because nobody knows how to deal with this teleport stuff other than us, we can actually get away with it

Which is why we must move BAN•ZELDA forward as fast as possible before everyone finds out we are not truly banworthy
To be fair every character has the ledge-snap vulnerability. I agree that Zelda's and other recoveries are going unpunished too much. I did much better vs Zelda since I learned to punish her ledge snaps.
 

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I was hoping someone would notice my birthday was today.

Thanks for the birthday shout out gurls! :zeldamelee::zeldamelee::zeldamelee::zeldamelee::zeldamelee:
PS Looks like you have a fangorl...
It appears so. Got no problem with it though! :shades:

Also...

many alerts.JPG


What a great birthday present. :colorful: Feels good to be liked. :estatic:
 

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To be fair every character has the ledge-snap vulnerability. I agree that Zelda's and other recoveries are going unpunished too much. I did much better vs Zelda since I learned to punish her ledge snaps.
Yeah, when I see people respecting Falcon's recovery, I'm like 12064466_10153027911610703_1446005371_n.jpg

But I notice that many top players are figuring out that Falcon's ledge snap is probably the easiest to punish in the game, it's stupidly easy to just whack at him for some reason.

People are also figuring out that Rosalina and Pikachu are also very exploitable because of this mechanic, but not as many people are taking advantage of it.
 

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Yeah, when I see people respecting Falcon's recovery, I'm like View attachment 81371

But I notice that many top players are figuring out that Falcon's ledge snap is probably the easiest to punish in the game, it's stupidly easy to just whack at him for some reason.

People are also figuring out that Rosalina and Pikachu are also very exploitable because of this mechanic, but not as many people are taking advantage of it.
hasn't Rosalind always been exploitable because she sticks her head above the ledge when she's trying to grab it? :o

Also happy birthday Jestar Jestar :D
 
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hasn't Rosalind always been exploitable because she sticks her head above the ledge when she's trying to grab it? :o
She always has, but people just don't realize it's a thing. See, if you main :4zelda:, you HAVE to learn the tricks of all the characters in order to increase your chances of winning from 0% to 6.9% :secretkpop:

That's why we (should) know how to play the game. But people beat Zelda because they ALSO know how to play the game. Because Zelda's such a cute, she will let people win games if people know how to actually play the game (ledge vulnerability, DI properly, don't whiff so many moves) and how she plays.

zelda u da rel mvp
 

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I think the easiest snap to punish in the game is rosalinduhrr.

Her up B is so telegraphed and takes a decade to snap. I've been able to dtilt her 4-5 times before. Needless to say shaming a rosa in this way was unhealthily satisfying.

On second thought, dtilting people's frame perfect regrabs or slow snaps is just really, really gratifying. It sends people on tilt, swear on me mum.

Additionally I advise ledge cancelling randomly during a match. It's an actual intimidation factor. When you see a FG lucas momentum shift with Magnet and a palu-palu derping, you become a bit more wary and assume they're a pretty good player to know how to do those tricks and have in-depth knowledge of their character.

Zelda just has too many tricks up her sleeve, smgdh. Ban • Her
 
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So this guy was bugging me on Twitter, and really really wanted me to check out his videos.

Who would've thought it was Sempai, that guy who makes many cool highlight videos of Muhley.

I subscribed to him a long time ago even before he contacted me, and told him I've already noticed him. in other words, Sempai was noticed... by me.
 

Antonykun

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So this guy was bugging me on Twitter, and really really wanted me to check out his videos.

Who would've thought it was Sempai, that guy who makes many cool highlight videos of Muhley.

I subscribed to him a long time ago even before he contacted me, and told him I've already noticed him. in other words, Sempai was noticed... by me.
does that make you Sempai's Sempai?
 

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gorls story time,
I made a program in C++ where you type in a statement and it returns it to you backwards
I typed in "BAN ZELDA"
The Program returned a bunch of smiley faces
the computer has become aware of Zelda's Trashyness
BAN*ZELDA
 

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I have the sickest Samus NA CONFIRMED by EODM07 EODM07 and I also have the best Falcon jab cheese in the west.

Why do I even have a Samus I barely play her LOL
How I feel right now after facing your Samus, Falcon, ZSS and Sheik:


Still, GGs. I had some fun against other characters like Mario, Doc and those weird friendlies against Ganon, Roy and Bowser. Just. Those other four... no. :c

Even though we didn't really play in a while, but damn, I'm doubting my Roy.
 
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Re ledgesnap

Snapping from above (and also not snapping at all) is going to become absolutely vital for us (and other teleport chars). It gives us more angles to work with and removes the vulnerability. It also makes us even harder to edgeguard since we don't have to drop down so low.
 
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How I feel right now after facing your Samus, Falcon, ZSS and Sheik:


Still, GGs. I had some fun against other characters like Mario, Doc and those weird friendlies against Ganon, Roy and Bowser. Just. Those other four... no. :c

Even though we didn't really play in a while, but damn, I'm doubting my Roy.
:4samus::4samus::4samus::4falcon::4samus::4samus::4samus:

Yeah, GGs. Just don't go too far into salt territory and we'll be good =V.

Oh yeah @CPU 3 I did the Ike things. I landed not one, not two, BUT THREE Fsmashes in a single match. I hope I have done well
 
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So I was bored and visited the squidboards social.
I found
TristeSP said:
I'm sorry, but I just can't avoid talking about Trieste Sp. What follows is a series of remarks addressed to the readers of this letter and to Trieste Sp himself. If he had lived the short, sickly, miserable life of a chattel serf in the ages “before technocracy” he wouldn't be so keen to brainwash the masses into submission. Maybe he'd even begin to realize that the continuing misunderstandings that some impulsive, soulless pinheads seem to have merely underscore this point. How much more illumination does that fact need before Trieste Sp can grasp it? Assuming the answer is “a substantial amount”, let me point out that Trieste Sp's grand plan is to equip ungracious pseudo-intellectuals with flame throwers, hand grenades, and heat-seeking missiles. I'm sure Mao Tse Tung would approve. In any case, Trieste Sp's homilies are a hotbed of despotism. Let me try to explain what I mean by that in a single sentence: In some sense, Trieste Sp's twisted dream of dispensing outright misinformation and flashlight-under-the-chin ghost stories has triumphed. Of course, this would better be called a nightmare, not a dream. In point of contrast, I'm one of those people who dreams about presenting another paradigm in opposition to Trieste Sp's slimy, argumentative perceptions. That's why I write that listening to Trieste Sp talk about coordinating a revolution is like watching a colonial power laying out a plan to force its language, culture, laws, religion, and ideals on a subject people. The put-upon natives in this case are those of us bold enough to state in public that whenever anyone states the obvious—that Trieste Sp stands out as the king of Planet Hate-filled—discussion naturally progresses towards the question, “Where do twisted polemicists like Trieste Sp come from, and what are we going to do with them?” No, don't guess; this isn't audience participation day. I'll just tell you. But before I do, you should note that when I hear Trieste Sp's famuli parrot the party line—that Trieste Sp could do a gentler and fairer job of running the world than anyone else—I see them not as people but as machines. The appropriate noises are coming out of their larynges, but their brains are not involved as they would be if they were thinking about how Trieste Sp adamantly maintains that he is a model citizen. Such beliefs would be entirely factual if it weren't for reality. As it stands, Trieste Sp uses the word “premisrepresentation” without ever having taken the time to look it up in the dictionary. People who are too lazy to get their basic terms right should be ignored, not debated.


It should be intuitively obvious even to the most casual observer that Trieste Sp's exegeses have grown into an unenlightened tapestry weaving together classical conspiracy theories of the 19th century and post-Marxian economics. More emphatically, I'm not very conversant with his background. To be quite frank, I don't care to be. I already know enough to state with confidence that teenagers who want to shock their parents sometimes maintain—with a straight face—that wars end only when a goodhearted, newly enlightened tyrant heeds the advice of transnational peace activists. Fortunately, most parents don't fall for this fraud because they know that in this world, there are vulgar pamphleteers. There are coprophagous wackos. There are rats who walk like men. And then there is Trieste Sp. Of those, I maintain that Trieste Sp is the most huffy because the time has arrived to make a choice between freedom and slavery, revolt and submission, liberty and subservience. We must choose wisely, knowing that if we discuss, openly and candidly, a vision for a harmonious, multiracial society, we can live as truly free and empowered human beings. If, however, we let Trieste Sp violate the basic tenets of journalism and scholarship, we become little more than fearful, broken dogs condemned to exist in a world of meddlesome tammanyism.


If society were a beer bottle—something, I believe, that Trieste Sp holds in high regard—he would indeed be the nauseating bit at the bottom that only the homeless like to drink. We are in trouble when hitherto reputable people impact public policy for years to come. You might allege I'm telling you this because I like to beat up on him. Really, that isn't my principal reason. I don't especially need to beat up on Trieste Sp because he is already despised by decent and knowledgeable people almost everywhere.


There is no more noble activity than ensuring that the values for which we have labored and for which many of us have fought and sacrificed will continue in ascendancy. The interest of that portion of social arrangement is a trust in the hands of all those who compose it; and as none but covinous schnorrers would justify it in abuse, none but talebearers would barter it away for their own personal advantage. The implication, of course, is that if I withheld my feelings on this matter, I'd be no less depraved than Trieste Sp. He has—not once, but several times—been able to lead me down a path of pain and suffering without anyone stopping him. How long can that go on? As long as his insensitive litanies are kept on life support. That's why we have to pull the plug on them and lift our national policy from the quicksand of racial injustice to the solid rock of human dignity. Don't let Trieste Sp delude you into thinking that we have too much freedom. He's just trying to take rights away from individuals on the basis of prejudice, myth, irrational belief, inaccurate information, and outright falsehood.


Trieste Sp has remarked that his loony-bin crew is a colony of heaven called to obey God by putting increased disruptive powers in the hands of egocentric misosophists. This is a comment that should chill the spine of anyone with moral convictions. To make sure you understand I'll spell it out for you. For starters, Trieste Sp is working towards the day when he (and only he) can dictate what you may say, whom you may know, where you may live, and how you may behave. Why does that matter? It matters because this makes me fearful that I might someday find myself in the crosshairs of Trieste Sp's hypocritical, lackadaisical fulminations. (To be honest, though, it wouldn't be the first time.)


The one thing that's central to all of Trieste Sp's procacious sermons is a desire to fleece us. I call this the New Aspheterism. The old aspheterism was concerned only with cultivating an unhealthy sense of victimhood. Although that was bad enough, Trieste Sp coins polysyllabic neologisms to make his values sound like they're actually important. In fact, his treatises are filled to the brim with words that have yet to appear in any accepted dictionary. As another disquieting tidbit the following must be stated: The really interesting thing about all this is not that his programs of Gleichschaltung are an irritable carnival of clericalism. The interesting thing is that I want to see all of us working together to call your attention to the problem of flippant coofs. Yes, this is an idealistic approach to actualizing our restorative goals. Nevertheless, you should realize that Trieste Sp's mind games are amalgams of popular themes among churlish philosophunculists, self-aggrandizing, simple-minded mouthpieces for drossy, inimical anti-intellectualism, and longiloquent psychics. To cap that off, I feel sorry for Trieste Sp's enemies. Trieste Sp demonizes them relentlessly, typically reciting a laundry list of character faults and random insults without an intelligible word about the substance of what they have to say. I guess that shows that Trieste Sp has allowed himself to become a spokesman for the same point of view shared by pathetic scandalmongers, disgusting spalpeens, and rotten turncoats while masquerading as an outspoken radical bucking the system.


This may sound like caricature, but I sometimes see well-meaning people swallow Trieste Sp's lie that his mistakes are always someone else's fault. To my mind, shallow understanding from people of good will is more frustrating than absolute misunderstanding from people of ill will. That's why I wish that all decent people realized that I have frequently criticized Trieste Sp's unspoken plan to regiment the public mind as much as an army regiments the bodies of its soldiers. He usually addresses my criticisms by accusing me of Bonapartism, animalism, child molestation, and halitosis. Trieste Sp hopes that by delegitimizing me this way, no one will listen to me when I say that if Trieste Sp is going to glorify the things that everyone else execrates, then he should at least have the self-respect to remind himself of a few things: First, my number one priority is to ask the tough questions and not shy away from the tough answers. And second, if he thinks his conjectures represent progress, Trieste Sp should rethink his definition of progress.


It is hardly surprising that Trieste Sp wants to trade facts for fantasy, truth for myths, academics for collective socialization, and individual thinking for group manipulation. After all, this is the same oleaginous toughy whose conscienceless prattle informed us that representative government is an outmoded system that should be replaced by a system of overt anarchism. Anyone who takes even a cursory glance at this letter will quickly discover that even relative to the rest of his camorra, he's a fascinatingly exotic paladin of metagrobolism, a neon pea**** in a field of Guernsey cows. What's even more fascinating is that the central paradox of Trieste Sp's reports, the twist that makes Trieste Sp's ethics so irresistible to noxious warmongers, is that these people truly believe that people don't mind having their communities turned into war zones. Well, let's get our facts straight. Trieste Sp's propaganda factories continuously spew forth messages like, “Cultural tradition has never contributed a single thing to the advancement of knowledge or understanding” and, “It's inappropriate to teach children right from wrong”. What they don't tell you, though, is that Trieste Sp indisputably believes that ebola, AIDS, mad-cow disease, and the hantavirus were intentionally bioengineered by self-absorbed agelasts for the purpose of population reduction. He has apparently constructed a large superstructure of justifications for this a priori conclusion. I guess that shouldn't be too surprising given that Trieste Sp's loquacity and volubility of tongue serve only to terrorize our youngsters. But what, you may ask, does any of that have to do with the theme of this letter, viz., that his positions are a mess of disconnected and disorganized thoughts? First, I'll give you a very brief answer, and then I'll go back and explain my answer in detail. As for the brief answer, his savage allocutions are in full flower, and their poisonous petals of masochism are blooming all around us. But this is something to be filed away for future letters. At present, I wish to focus on only one thing: the fact that it's scary how effectively he has been brandishing the word “characteristicalness” (as it is commonly spelled) to hoodwink people into believing that violence and prejudice are funny. I deeply regret the loss of life and injuries sustained by this tragedy. I am currently working to understand the surrounding circumstances so as to improve our ability to hammer out solutions on the anvil of discourse.


Trieste Sp has been trying for some time to convince people that he is known for his sound judgment, unerring foresight, and sagacious adaptation of means to ends. Don't believe his hype! Trieste Sp has just been offering that line as a means to eavesdrop on all types of private conversations. You should know that it's not yet illegal to think outside the box. Trieste Sp is working on that, though. I suspect that before you know it, we'll no longer be allowed to state in public that there is an alternative to lying down passively for the executioner. The alternative is to create and nurture a true spirit of community. In particular, he is undoubtedly up to something. I don't know exactly what, but we must do everything we can to promote trust, a questioning attitude, and a receptiveness to raising issues. Fortunately, putting forth new exertions and proportioning all associated efforts to the exigency of the times is an activity that's right in my wheelhouse. I even know where to begin: by informing people everywhere that if you think about it you'll see that Trieste Sp's ungrateful ploys are merely a distraction. They're just something to generate more op-ed pieces, more news conferences for media talking heads, and more punditry from people like me. Meanwhile, Trieste Sp's apocrisiaries are continuing their quiet work of advancing Trieste Sp's real goal, which is to waffle on all the issues.


Trieste Sp's analects represent a backward step of hundreds of years, a backward step into a chasm with no bottom save the endless darkness of death. As anyone living above the Earth's surface knows by now, Trieste Sp relies heavily on “useful idiots”, that is, people who unwittingly do Trieste Sp's dirty work for him. Without his swarms of useful idiots, Trieste Sp would not have been able to conceal the fact that his mercenaries have shared the rostrum with carnaptious fainéants at recent symposia. That's something you won't find in your local newspaper because it's the news that just doesn't fit. His policy of lionizing pot-valiant rapscallions must not go unchallenged. To leave it unchallenged is to condone Trieste Sp's grandiose plans for world hegemony, plans in which no one is free to say that Trieste Sp has once again been creating a world without history, without philosophy, without science, without reason—a world without beauty of any kind, without art, without literature, without culture. Although for him, this behavior is as common as that of adulterous politicians seeking forgiveness from God and spouse, it has been said that a plan of rational reaction to his grungy strictures is definitely in order. I, in turn, warrant that if we are to defenestrate his memoranda and deponticate his blandishments, then we must be guided by a healthy and progressive ideology, not by the closed-minded and domineering ideologies that Trieste Sp promotes. Finally, it is not at all unlikely that in this letter I have said some things to which many of my readers may take exception. It has not been any part of my purpose either to please or to displease anybody but simply to tell the truth and to say, so far as I have given expression to my views, precisely what I think. And what I think is this: Trieste Sp lives within a self-contained atmosphere of toxic greed and covetousness.
 

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Re ledgesnap

Snapping from above (and also not snapping at all) is going to become absolutely vital for us (and other teleport chars). It gives us more angles to work with and removes the vulnerability. It also makes us even harder to edgeguard since we don't have to drop down so low.
I've been told by some tech and frame savvy people it actually just changes the frame/window of vulnerability. We aren't completely immune.

Also take into consideration that ledges interact bizarrely with teleports, ESPECIALLY Zelda's. I've been flung reverse before trying to snap from above. And I mean flung. I went in a U shape after reappearing >.>...
 

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I've been told by some tech and frame savvy people it actually just changes the frame/window of vulnerability. We aren't completely immune.
Hi, person that labs stuff and stares at frame data for hours a day here. If it really does still have vulnerability I'd like to know where it is, because a smart bomb on the ledge apparently isn't big enough to catch it.


Also take into consideration that ledges interact bizarrely with teleports, ESPECIALLY Zelda's. I've been flung reverse before trying to snap from above. And I mean flung. I went in a U shape after reappearing >.>...
The corners of ledges are weird and send teleports straight up if you hit them just right, regardless of what direction you go at it from. Amusingly I saw it happen to a Zelda I ran into on FG last night where she teleported diagonally down to the ledge then the camera zoomed back out to show her reappearing close to where she started from.
 

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Happy birthday Jestar Jestar ! 76 notifications...how in the world does that happen?
gorls story time,
I made a program in C++ where you type in a statement and it returns it to you backwards
I typed in "BAN ZELDA"
The Program returned a bunch of smiley faces
the computer has become aware of Zelda's Trashyness
BAN*ZELDA
Even the AI knows :O

Can we get :4zelda:<-- this cancerous, dirty, deceitful character banned already?
 

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Happy birthday Jestar Jestar ! 76 notifications...how in the world does that happen?
Thanks!

95% of those came from lilmacluvr (that guy who made that troll thread) liking a ton of my posts. Had to go through 3 pages of alerts to see all of them.

The rest was tags and posts on my profile.

Speaking of lilmacluvr, Flavius Flavius looks like my fangurl got banned.:( It was great while it lasted though. 50+ likes and a birthday shout out? He definitely went out in the best way possible.
Thanks a ton for all that, lilmacluvr.:066:
 

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Thanks!

95% of those came from lilmacluvr (that guy who made that troll thread) liking a ton of my posts. Had to go through 3 pages of alerts to see all of them.

The rest was tags and posts on my profile.

Speaking of lilmacluvr, Flavius Flavius looks like my fangurl got banned.:( It was great while it lasted though. 50+ likes and a birthday shout out? He definitely went out in the best way possible.
Thanks a ton for all that, lilmacluvr.:066:
i mean did you really think he wouldn't get banned?
chances are that guy was a troll dupe account
 

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Thanks!

95% of those came from lilmacluvr (that guy who made that troll thread) liking a ton of my posts. Had to go through 3 pages of alerts to see all of them.
Jesus, what thread did you post that harbored such likes?

Maybe it's me being superstitious, but I think I have the slightest indication of who the dupes belonged to.

EDIT: Lilmacluvr just got assassinated, but Foxbrawler is still an active account.

BETTER NERF GRENINJA
 
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Jesus, what thread did you post that harbored such likes?

Maybe it's me being superstitious, but I think I have the slightest indication of who the dupes belonged to.
it appears that the dupe belonged to that fox troll seeing as he didn't get banned and the two accounts were always together
 

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Obvious troll who is obvious: Hmm... nah, we'll let you stay!

Fujin account who posts gameplay video of Sm4sh: YOU'RE BANNED!
 

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i mean did you really think he wouldn't get banned?
chances are that guy was a troll dupe account
I'm not too surprised he got banned, but it would have been nice if he stuck around a little longer.

It was great while it lasted though.
Jesus, what thread did you post that harbored such likes?
He liked a bunch of my posts in this thread, the (now but hopefully temporarily locked) Wolf 4 DLC thread, and the Robin social thread.

He must have gone through my profile and liked a bunch of posts I made.

Regardless, felt pretty good to get all them.
 

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I'm not too surprised he got banned, but it would have been nice if he stuck around a little longer.

It was great while it lasted though.

He liked a bunch of my posts in this thread, the (now but hopefully temporarily locked) Wolf 4 DLC thread, and the Robin social thread.

He must have gone through my profile and liked a bunch of posts I made.

Regardless, felt pretty good to get all them.
yeah thats what he did to me as well
 

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According to a new Pew Research Center poll, more women in the US own a game console than men (42% of women vs 37% of men), and about equal numbers of women and men own a portable gaming device (14% for both).

Article summarizing the report.
Can I ask why you are alway posting about your social justice stuff? I will defend your right to say whatever you want, but honestly at this point I'm curious why you keep bringing this kinda stuff up when it never ends in a good time.
 
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