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McKnightlíght

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Its cool thanks for trying none the less your ike has a a good defensive game
Well I normally don't have to go defensive, I'm pretty rushdown oriented, but swordfighter is quicker than Ike so I couldn't get inside. So I tried to play like a castle, but Ike gets juggled too easily.
 

EODM07

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Well I normally don't have to go defensive, I'm pretty rushdown oriented, but swordfighter is quicker than Ike so I couldn't get inside. So I tried to play like a castle, but Ike gets juggled too easily.
I tried fighting another Ike, and he always walled me out with spaced jabs and NAirs. I really need to learn how to deal with those. :c

And I need some advice on how to beat Robin.

 
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Antonykun

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idk maybe
before i say anything i should say i don't really want to see sheik nerfed
now i say that he's freaking Zero. He almost never loses, getting a single game off him is considered a spectacle of skill.
Him being able to beat even the best sheik means very little is if Sheik is broken or not
 
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Soul.

 
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before i say anything i should say i don't really want to see sheik nerfed
now i say that he's freaking Zero. He almost never loses, getting a single game off him is considered a spectacle of skill.
Him being able to beat even the best sheik means very little is if Sheik is broken or not
I know. Sheik is fine. she's just good. but then again, people want her nerfed.
 

LonkQ

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I want her nerfed. But I'm still feeling the salt when I lost a chance at 3rd place to a Sheik player. Nothing against him, but man it hurts.
 

Lorde

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what else could they nerf, though? they could take away all kill power from her so she can't kill until 200%, but that would only lead to sheiks needle camping more. in turn, more people would complain that sheik slows down the pace of the game and is awful to watch. sheik is fine and people need to grow up and stop whining about every single thing they don't like.

none of the characters need nerfs imo. if the balancing team wants to touch the cast at all, it should be buffs to the bad characters, not nerfing the best ones
 
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ZombieBran

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Makes Sheik's needles worse somehow

Why does someone with frame data blessed by Sakurai also need an unreactable transcendent projectile?
 
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I don't think she needs to be nerfed outright, because as much as I want her to be complete freakin' garbage, I don't think her fans would enjoy that much. I DO think her design needs to be normalized so that she can't just F-air and Needle camp most of the cast to death and so that I can actually have a decent time fighting her. As is, she's part of the reason I'm considering quitting this game. One of the least fun characters I've ever had the misfortune of fighting in like any game ever.
 

Rickster

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What if they revamped her to Brawl Sheik except with Bouncing Fish? How would that go?

I miss Brawl Sheik if no one noticed.
 

Locke 06

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Halp. My region is discussing customs on or off and it's terrible.

146 messages and counting since this morning.

Both sides have terrible arguments.

Halp.
 

Lorde

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What if they revamped her to Brawl Sheik except with Bouncing Fish? How would that go?

I miss Brawl Sheik if no one noticed.
I'd main Sheik if that happened.

I miss Brawl Sheik sooo badly. She's the most fun Sheik to play imo.

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I didn't know ZeRo thinks Fox got nerfed twice and is unfavourable against Sheik but still beat the best Sheik player
He wasn't talking about Diddy?
 
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EODM07

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I don't think she needs to be nerfed outright, because as much as I want her to be complete freakin' garbage, I don't think her fans would enjoy that much. I DO think her design needs to be normalized so that she can't just F-air and Needle camp most of the cast to death and so that I can actually have a decent time fighting her. As is, she's part of the reason I'm considering quitting this game. One of the least fun characters I've ever had the misfortune of fighting in like any game ever.
I just find her very boring and like you say, not very fun at all.
The only time I used her was during those double friendlies I had with @Koiba, @Nammy12 and @ r_greening1 r_greening1 . I really did not enjoy using her at all. :V
 

ZombieBran

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I DO think her design needs to be normalized so that she can't just F-air and Needle camp most of the cast to death and so that I can actually have a decent time fighting her.
Yeah, I dunno why they nerfed her kill power from release (outside of Bouncing Fish)
I feel like they're stuck on Sheik's death of a thousand cuts design, to the detriment of the game.
 

evmaxy54

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Give Sheik her Muhley needles (which were somewhat slow & laggy on the ground) & her Muhley recovery lag & everything would be perfect yea
 
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Cress!

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I started calling the Aerospray in Splatoon the Zaeroskill on another forum and it's catching on.
So now I spread it here. Don't use the Zaeroskill. It's more brain dead easy to use than :4sonic:.
 

Soul.

 
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I don't think Sheik needs any nerfs tbh. She's cancerous by design in this game, because as much as they nerf her KO power that will lead to more needle camping.
I'm not sure if bringing back her killing BAir (pre-patch) is a good idea.
 

kenniky

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IMO they need to nerf needles

then everything should be better if Sheik can't camp as hard
 
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LonkQ

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They should just make Bouncing Fish into Flopping Fish. She just flies up a bit, then straight down.
 
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