oy @
FullMoon
i was playing greninja with a friend and i was all like "how do i kill without handing my self over to the enemy?"
:/
I know right
This is why I miss his prepatch uair/fair, they killed at reasonable percents and were easy to combo into. With his frame data it seemed perfectly reasonable to me for that to stay, but I guess not.
Well, utilt>uair and dash attack>fair can still kill I guess, just more at like 130% or something. You've also got weak nair>usmash, dtilt>usmash, and at higher percents (like, "why-are-you-still-alive" higher) dtilt>fair. Uthrow starts killing around 160%s and comes down to ~125% or so with rage.
Other than that your kills with the frog are probably going to be edgeguards (esp. bair), hard reads, or mixups (jab>fsmash, dthrow>bait airdodge>shadow sneak, etc)...the former being a reason why I really miss infinite shadow sneak.