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[SBphiloz4]

I was doing my Doubles online tourney match and we were down a game and I was playing bad and lost 3 stocks fast. Had to steal my partner's life but he died soon after. Everyone was at around 100+% in the 1v2 situation where I was hanging on the ledge and managed to catch the Luigi by letting go of the ledge and Uair him, then I went back on stage and raw Ftilt the Mario to complete the comeback. My popoff was so loud my mom jumped off her seat hahaha.

We won the set in the end, so relieved. We needed it to stay alive. :^)

 

[Antonykun]

Just shake her sass gland firmly

sounds painful

 

[Trieste SP]

@Phenomiracle Did the thing that I said I was going to do.

Was not a pleasant experience but I made it. However, I don't think I'm going to be attempting that again anytime soon.

Did some more organisation on the Swordfighter boards.

 

[Antonykun]

this mad libs killed me

Spoiler: too good

Radio Announcer: Thank you for tuning in today. We are here in Sassboards to celebrate National Poetry Month. In just a moment, the nation's poet laureate, BJN, Eraser of Souls, will read a poem about a(n) Phantom. And here is BJN, Eraser of Souls.

BJN, Eraser of Souls: Thank you, everyone. This is a very sassy poem I wrote about a(n) Phantom.

An Ode to a(n) Phantom

The Phantom is as big as a(n) Din's Fire.
It reminds me of small Low Tiers sucking.
O, the Phantom. O, the Phantom!
What do stupid people think when they see you for the first time?
Perhaps they know there are happy days ahead.
O, the Phantom. O, the Phantom!
For some, you are failtastic, but for others, you are poorly dessinged.
If we are SDing, we pause when we think of you.
May you always suck.
O, the Phantom. O, the Phantom!
The end.

Radio Announcer: On behalf of the poets, thank you for reflecting.

 

[ZombieBran]

There is a patch thread that details every change found so far, fyi.

I know that. But that's a mixed bag of changes and I've seen Falcos claim both nerf and buff.

 

[Gay Ginger]

OMG I just found this on tumblr

"when you're trying to console your gay friend"

 

[TTTTTsd]

*college thesis about roy*

Mewtwo came back far from strong trust me. He's REALLY bad.

Trust me I'd hate Roy too but then I remember we're in a game where Sheik and Pikachu and even Rosalina exist and suddenly there's not a lot of anger.

Roy's like Captain Falcon to an extent but he can't be flowcharty, unlike Falcon =P. His neutral isn't as ridiculous as Falcon's and he can't spam stuff in neutral with low commitment, really. Feels pretty honest to me even if his FSmash is a little silly.

Also they made Roy better because even in Casual Melee play Roy sucked ass LOL

 

[Antonykun]

Mewtwo came back far from strong trust me. He's REALLY bad.

Trust me I'd hate Roy too but then I remember we're in a game where Sheik and Pikachu and even Rosalina exist and suddenly there's not a lot of anger.

Roy's like Captain Falcon to an extent but he can't be flowcharty, unlike Falcon =P. His neutral isn't as ridiculous as Falcon's and he can't spam stuff in neutral with low commitment, really. Feels pretty honest to me even if his FSmash is a little silly.

Also they made Roy better because even in Casual Melee play Roy sucked *** LOL

well m2 came back stronger if anything
but seriously Falcon is a braindead character for like all the way until the highest level of play

 

[Lavani]

when are you changing your avatar vanali?

 

[Rizen]

^

 

[Berserker.]

Mewtwo came back far from strong trust me. He's REALLY bad.

I posted this before and I'll say it again

Ike's n-air killed me at a surprisingly low percent when I played Mewtwo. I wanted to try Mewtwo against my brother but I got bopped. Like... HARD

 

[berserker00]

I posted this before and I'll say it again

Ike's n-air killed me at a surprisingly low percent when I played Mewtwo. I wanted to try Mewtwo against my brother but I got bopped. Like... HARD

 

[Soul.]

Why does Mewtwo need to be light. It's not lightweight in Pokémon.

 

[TTTTTsd]

Wow a guy named Berserker responding to...a guy named Berserker?! These alt accounts are getting ridiculous!

@ Soul. Do you REALLY want Mewtwo to be Pokemon weight AKA more than Charizard? He'd be absurd like that LOL.

I say just make him Marth's weight.

 

[Antonykun]

Why does Mewtwo need to be light. It's not lightweight in Pokémon.

He's the heaviest of the playable mons!

 

[Soul.]

@ Soul. Do you REALLY want Mewtwo to be Pokemon weight AKA more than Charizard? He'd be absurd like that LOL.

I say just make him Marth's weight.

yes, i would be glad. No more Mewtwo complaints. Still gets destroyed by Sheik/Pika/****

Is Marth middleweight?

He's the heaviest of the playable mons!

#logic

 

[Furret]

^

 

[TTTTTsd]

yes, i would be glad. No more Mewtwo complaints. Still gets destroyed by Sheik/Pika/****

Is Marth middleweight?


#logic

Marth is like....well....he's kind of middle? He's slightly below middle but mostly managable. I think his survival rate is fairly good and it's a lot better than Mewtwo having a weight of 98 which is IMO too much for his toolkit. 90 is just a much better number and would have him dying a bit faster than some middleweights but not...like this LOL

 

[Berserker.]

Wow a guy named Berserker responding to...a guy named Berserker?! These alt accounts are getting ridiculous!

@ berserker00 is my brother irl

 

[ZombieBran]

Mewtwo is light because something anti-gravity something something Sakurai logic

 

[TTTTTsd]

@ berserker00 is my brother irl

Wow....so that means...every Berserker on here is a relative of yours....

Just wait for my family! They'll just be *various letter 5 times*sd.

 

[FullMoon]

Mewtwo is lightweight because he's using telekinesis in order to make himself float and thus lighter.

It's a similar logic used to justify Rosalina being so light because apparently her gravity is wonky.

In any case Mewtwo inflicting such a glaring weakness on himself means he's either dumb or overconfident.

 

[berserker00]

Wow a guy named Berserker responding to...a guy named Berserker?! These alt accounts are getting ridiculous!

 

[Soul.]

Marth is like....well....he's kind of middle? He's slightly below middle but mostly managable. I think his survival rate is fairly good and it's a lot better than Mewtwo having a weight of 98 which is IMO too much for his toolkit. 90 is just a much better number and would have him dying a bit faster than some middleweights but not...like this LOL

Oh. So 90 weight. Good lol, I don't think they will fix its weight tho so it doesn't matter.

 

[Shrokatii]

Does anyone have any DLC wants/wishes?

All I want is :4wolf (surprise surprise) and King K. Rool.

Anything else is a bonus.

kinda late but:

Pichu (This WILL happen. it MUST happen. its the will of the gods.)

Toon Zelda (for an alternate zelda for matchup purposes)

Young Link (first smash main ever. the nostalgia would be incredible, despite i still play melee)

anything else i dont really care about, but characters i think SHOULD be in smash:

Pichu (Duh)

Toon Zelda (No bias with either of these)

Wolf/Krystal. i never played wolf but they shouldnt have removed him, seriously.


Theres more but the list would be pretty long. these are just the most important

 

[Furret]

Krystal.

ya I can't let you mention that character

 

[Shrokatii]

ya I can't let you mention that character

so

 

[RedCap-BlueSpikes]

Krystal was a mistake. She's nothing but trash.

 

[Soul.]

Speculation is bad.

 

[Berserker.]

Oh. Right. Almost forgot, my DLC wishlist

1) Snake
2) Captain Toad :>
3) Pichu
4) Bandana Dee

Er.... That's about it for me

 

[FullMoon]

I wonder how much range does Greninja's jab have in comparison to other characters. I mean I've had plenty of moments where me and my opponent both tried to jab each other but their jab was too short ranged to hit me but mine still hit them lol.

 

[Soul.]

If Pichu gets in I'll ask the following:
"Why Pichu over Pikachu???"

 

[Suicidal_Donuts]

After continuing to train my Lucas, I have come up with a basic strategy guide:

• Use Nair
• Use Nair
• Use Nair
• Dthrow > Nair
• SH back PK Fire
• Use Nair
• Use Zair
• Whiff grab
• Use a random smash
• Win

 

[Ffamran]

I know that. But that's a mixed bag of changes and I've seen Falcos claim both nerf and buff.

When your metagame basically changed, there will be a mixed bag. Some people liked that Uair was a slow, powerful juggle, some liked the sour-spot on Uair allowing for hit confirms into Bair, some liked Dair spiking on the ground so they could frame cancel lock with it, and some might even liked that you could have people fall out of Nair.

Of all the characters in Smash, Falco's gone through the most gameplay changes and it might even continue. From Melee to Brawl to 1.0.0 Smash 4 to patch 1.0.8 Smash 4. Aside from Dr. Mario having his Up Smash's launch angle altered, Charizard swapping kill throws with U-throw and B-throw, and Marth and Lucina having their jabs function differently, most characters just got buffs or nerfs. Sheik's Bair not killing? That's not a game plan change; that's a nerf. It doesn't function differently; it's just weaker. Ike's jab 1 to jab 2 is faster? He can jab cancel faster, that's all. Meta Knight's hitboxes being fixed? He functions more properly now.

For DLC characters, noticed how Nintendo didn't involve Wolf at all with the Star Fox Zero presentation? Pigma was there in his updated, fat glory. Team Star Fox were all updated with Smash-influenced elements like scouters, Reflectors, Blasters, and such along with being based on 64 with Commmand's head structures for Fox and Falco - Falco has his Assault-onwards slicked back "hair". Before E3, the intention was to show off Smash 4 and surprise us with Roy and Ryu. Roy was updated and based on Binding Blade and Awakening while Ryu's Ryu, but apparently more like Street Fighter V Ryu. Wolf? Star Fox Zero was said to have looked back and used Star Fox 2's concepts. It's not a sequel, prequel, or even a remake or reboot. At the same time, the Star Fox crew's designs are based on 64, Command, and Smash. Brawl Wolf's design was based on Assault and Star Fox 2. If Wolf comes back, he might not look like Brawl Wolf. Hell, he might not even fight like Brawl Wolf since 64 Wolf was a bit more dapper. Expect a Little Mac clone who actually has an air game - British boxing Wolf.

 

[Rickster]

If they make Wolf anything like Little Mac I'm gonna cry then rage at Sakuratena.

 

[Ffamran]

If they make Wolf anything like Little Mac I'm gonna cry then rage at Sakuratena.

Fine, he'll fight like Zelda then.

Well, he could fight like Yugo from Bloody Roar. Kickboxing plus claws and a move that looks like Wolf's Fair.

 

[Rickster]

Fine, he'll fight like Zelda then.

Well, he could fight like Yugo from Bloody Roar. Kickboxing plus claws and a move that looks like Wolf's Fair.

Hmm...Wolf with Lightning Kicks...

0_0

Wolf's Bair is now a Lightning Kick.

 

[Ffamran]

Hmm...Wolf with Lightning Kicks...

0_0

Wolf's Bair is now a Lightning Kick.

Technically, that's already in existence; it's called giving Falco Wolf's Bair for no reason and upping the knockback so that it's a lightning fast and powerful, but reliable kill move. Fun fact, Wolf's Bair hits on the same frame as Zelda's Bair; Falco's doesn't - it hits 2 frames earlier. Falco's current Bair is a move that borderlines broken, but because of its short range and Falco's bad air speed, it's a borderline broken move on a character that can't abuse it horribly. I mean, could you imagine this Bair on Luigi, Fox, Sheik, Captain Falcon, Wario, Roy, or any other characters with the specs to abuse it? If Wolf had the exact same frame data as Falco's current Bair, he'd probably have the most broken Bair in Brawl. It'd be even faster and stronger.

 

[Rickster]

Technically, that's already in existence; it's called giving Falco Wolf's Bair for no reason and upping the knockback so that it's a lightning fast and powerful, but reliable kill move. Fun fact, Wolf's Bair hits on the same frame as Zelda's Bair; Falco's doesn't - it hits 2 frames earlier. Falco's current Bair is a move that borderlines broken, but because of its short range and Falco's bad air speed, it's a borderline broken move on a character that can't abuse it horribly. I mean, could you imagine this Bair on Luigi, Fox, Sheik, Captain Falcon, Wario, Roy, or any other characters with the specs to abuse it? If Wolf had the exact same frame data as Falco's current Bair, he'd probably have the most broken Bair in Brawl. It'd be even faster and stronger.

Memories of Bair walls are coming back...

I'm perfectly fine with Falco not abusing anything . I can never forgive him for those Brawl lasers. EVER.

 

[ZombieBran]

Expect a Little Mac clone who actually has an air game - British boxing Wolf.

I want this so bad