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[Ffamran]

from melee

What? When Roy was leaked, his victory thing had Falco get Flare Bladed into a roast pheasant while in the direct where his trailer was shown, Falco got roasted by Blazer.

 

[CatRaccoonBL]

So yeah Earthbound beginnings. Hang on let me check something. *Checks out window* Yep. Pigs are indeed flying.

 

[r_greening1]

I JUST SKIPPED 20+ PAGES TO SAY HOW HAPPY I AM RIGHT NOW!!!!! MAI BOI IS BACK!! Also, I haven't messed with Zelda after the patch :^) I also finally beat bloodborne

 

[FullMoon]

I really need a better video editor my god.

 

[EODM07]

Since it's getting late over here. I've stopped at . I'll post my results here again.
If anyone wants to, they can copy these over to the Roy thread. :3

Spoiler: Character percents where they can get combo'd by NAir > Jab

0% - 10%
0% - 10%
5% - 15%
0% - 11%
0% - 19%
0% - 20%
0% - 14%
0% - 4%
0% - 4%
5% - 23%
0% - 15%
0% - 15%
0% - 15%

Spoiler: Character percents where they can get combo'd by D-Throw > NAir

34% - 49%
51% - 69%
51% - 67%
35% - 44%
35% - 50%
35% - 64%

Again, might be inaccurate. I'll try and update these in the future. :3

 

[Lorde]

What are the actual changes for 1.0.8 that we know of? The patch thread doesn't have any in the OP.

I know about these:
: nair and usmash buffs, love boosting gone
: ftilt has use and isn't trash
/:jab 1 was buffed
: Idk what was changed, so it'd be good if someone enlightened me
:uair nerfed to not be as ridiculous
: nerfed somehow idk the specifics
: something about not being able to do a ledge combo thing

Was there anything else we've discovered?

 

[Koiba]

HOLY ****AKE MUSHROOMS I JUST SAW THE DIRECT NOW

I'M SO HYPED NOW!

I'M SO HYPED THAT I READ A PAGE PER MINUTE HERE.

DID ANY OF MY CHARS GET CHANGED?

And me and Nammy don't have enough cash. ;_____________; rip wallet

 

[BJN39]

Something that appears to be cast-wide is the loss of some (At least Neutral B) ledge boosts. I overheard the Sheiks saying they lost ledge needle boost.

 

[FullMoon]

It's amazing how quickly Greninja's F-Tilt went from trash to being a wonderful spacing tool.

And the funny thing is tha I was talking about F-Tilt in the Greninja boards just a while before the patch.

 

[EODM07]

Btw girls. A friend of mine found this tweet.
https://twitter.com/himo9/status/610152383797166081
Ryu has a jab infinite he can do into EX Shoryuken.

 

[BJN39]

Since most of y'all probably missed it:

3DS |Good DI 0% Rage |Good DI 100% Rage |Good DI 150% Rage
|105%|90%|80%
|125%|110%|98%
|80%|68%|60%

These are the KO % of a fully connected uncharged Usmash with GOOD DI, and varying rage.


With no rage (Good DI) Usmash actually KOs earlier than (Good DI) Elevator. Yes, ELEVATOR. When your rage goes up though, Elevator becomes slightly stronger. And...Of course if your opponent doesn't properly DI FW2...

 

[Shrokatii]

Okray

I like Roy

I mean, I think it's possible to chaingrab fast fallers with dthrow>jab a few times, got someone to 50%. I haven't actually tested to see if it's escapable or not, and if it isn't, I wouldn't doubt if they'd change that.

 

[Rickster]

Zelda is once again the queen of vertical KOs.

 

[「 Derk 」]

This image is now relevant thanks to the patch. I knew we had to get something good for Zelda eventually.

 

[Lorde]

Is the input for the good Shoryuken ? I looked online and that's what it said, but I could have misinterpreted it.

 

[ZombieBran]

Sooo
Is Zelda still Dan?

 

[FullMoon]

Sooo
Is Zelda still Dan?

No it's Falco.

 

[Lavani]

birds

 

[ZombieBran]

birds

I like your new Falco avatar.

 

[Rickster]

If I go on FG today my goal is to KO everyone using Usmash.
I need to train myself to use it again

 

[ZombieBran]

Lucina is a clone clone.

Roy is like Mewtwo to Mew.

 

[Ffamran]

Dan could beat up Falco; Falco's like whoever's worst than Dan... One of the guys cheering in the background of Street Fighter stages.

 

[Kofu]

@Aerodrome or @ Lavani would you be willing to test 's landing lag? I'm probably just worrying but it feels worse. DTilt buff is nice though. Nothing game changing but it gives us an alternative to jab/FTilt.

Ryu seems very strong, I'd have to work at getting the inputs correct consistently if I were to use him. I heard you could cancel weak tilts into strong tilts hut I can't seem to do it. Roy doesn't have any SHAC aerials but you can jump after FAir. Seems to have better mobility than Marth barring his air acceleration. I don't like how Lucas feels tbh. He seems to lack good SHAC aerials and his ground attacks are either slow and lack range. Good throws though and he hits HARD. Dash attack seems to kill well. He's also suuuuper floaty lol.

On the Miiverse stage I saw a comment for Mario: "GO RED LUIGI." It made me laugh.

 

[kenniky]

I might drop Falco now for Roy or Ryu smh

 

[ZombieBran]

I might drop Falco now for Roy or Ryu smh

Go for Ryu, no bias.

 

[Lavani]

I like your new Falco avatar.

You ruined it for me and now I have defected to Team Rocket

I hope you're happy

 

[Ffamran]

I might drop Falco now for Roy or Ryu smh

I wouldn't blame you. Falco has actually been progressively getting worse throughout Smash 4's life and it sucks when you try everything to help people play Falco better and try to prove his worth only to get **** on every time.

I'm still going to stick with him and fight for him. It's the least I can do.

 

[Lorde]

Roy's airspeed feels really good to me, but idk if it actually is. Despite being unnecessary, he's probably the most entertaining swordsman to use.

Ryu is weird and I don't understand him. He has nice palettes, too. @ Lavani or @warionumbah2, what is the input for the good Shoryuken? I figured out Hadouken pretty easily, but idk what Shoryuken is. Is it this: ?

Lucas is great fun and it's nice having him back. His usmash is legit insane; the hitboxes are gigantic. I've already seen people on the Miiverse stage saying his usmash is OP lol.

 

[Ffamran]

You ruined it for me and now I have defected to Team Rocket

I hope you're happy

@ ZombieBran , thanks a lot. I like cute birds and now Lavani's avatar isn't one.

 

[Lavani]

Ryu is weird and I don't understand him. He has nice palettes, too. @ Lavani or @warionumbah2, what is the input for the good Shoryuken? I figured out Hadoken pretty easily, but idk what Shoryuken is. Is it this: ?

Yeah, is the Shoryuken input.

 

[ZombieBran]

@ ZombieBran , thanks a lot. I like cute birds and now Lavani's avatar isn't one.

I'm literally the devil incarnate.

 

[Suicidal_Donuts]

Could someone please enlighten me on the "____ is Dan" thing?

 

[WolfieXVII ❂]

Man I love this character

@warionumbah2

 

[Jestar]

Got all the DLC downloaded and tried it all out.

I only have 2 things to say about it:

N64 Dream Land + Fountain of Dreams music is the only good thing best part of the DLC.

I'm still mainless.

 

[Fernosaur]

Since most of y'all probably missed it:

3DS |Good DI 0% Rage |Good DI 100% Rage |Good DI 150% Rage
|105%|90%|80%
|125%|110%|98%
|80%|68%|60%

These are the KO % of a fully connected uncharged Usmash with GOOD DI, and varying rage.


With no rage (Good DI) Usmash actually KOs earlier than (Good DI) Elevator. Yes, ELEVATOR. When your rage goes up though, Elevator becomes slightly stronger. And...Of course if your opponent doesn't properly DI FW2...

BJN... can you test how early Jigglypuff dies to Wii Fit Trainer's Deep Breathing uncharged U-smash? Both with and without rage I guess.

Zelda's new u-smash sounds like a sound competitor for one of the strongest in the game.

 

[kenniky]

Wait, Shimomura did the Ryu's Theme remix? Beautiful. Shimomura is now my favorite VGM composer.

 

[Macchiato]

BJN... can you test how early Jigglypuff dies to Wii Fit Trainer's Deep Breathing uncharged U-smash? Both with and without rage I guess.

Zelda's new u-smash sounds like a sound competitor for one of the strongest in the game.

probably like 25% but idk

 

[ZombieBran]

Was Fat Wii Trainers buffed?

 

[Macchiato]

Was Fat Wii Trainers buffed?

No changes

 

[kenniky]

asdf I have to record all my 3DS replays before I can download patch