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[Macchiato]

@ Macchiato Woah, your Robin is so good. Is there anything I need to work on?

Yeah it was fun lol GG. I noticed you were always faking me out with an empty hop and then grab which is really good, but sometimes you should use Nosferatu instead of the grab to get some health back

You didn't sweetspot the ledge at times and I punished you for that. Also don't use dins fire... Ever. Haha thanks

 

[Tilk]

So I saw you guys talking s*** on the Sheik boards.

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Nah, I'm kidding. I'm actually one of the few that isn't bothered too much about the nerf.

Aye… all my Sheik main friends couldn't shut up about the nerd if they tried…. and even I've tried.. >.<

From what I've experienced playing her…. it really isn't too much to get worked up over.

I wasn't really bothered by Sonic getting hit with a nerf and I use him quite a lot. Guess some people are just that finicky.

 

[Lorde]

A big obstacle in learning villager is realizing she's both zone AND anti-zone her slingshot and Lloyds combo is great at spacing out tall characters with low/predictable mobility like Ganon Dedede and sometimes even Rosalina

at the same time she has some ridiculous aerial buttons like a 3 frame n-air that sets up for strings and frame traps along with a fast disjointed move that kills and/or spike

if she's just slingshotting then she's never going to hit you with her buttonsthats where pocket and walking with the Lloyd comes in you slowly try to whittle down their space to come in and harass them.

Also edguards. edguards are uber important because of the aforementioned aerials coupled with Balloon Trip. Hope that helped

Thank you; that was very helpful. Do her tilts have much use? And what are some things I should practice with her if I want to start learning her?

 

[|ven|]

Yay stream is back up! Almost grandfinals guys ;o;

 

[Furret]

Can I just say

Apex 2015

Was better organised than Sandstorm

what do you mean?

 

[Nammy12]

what do you mean?

The Smash 4 stream was really laggy.

 

[Antonykun]

Thank you; that was very helpful. Do her tilts have much use? And what are some things I should practice with her if I want to start learning her?

Her tilts are all disjoints and have her largest horizontal distance that isn't a projectile
F-tilt is a poke
D-tilt is a slow poke/punish you can deal 13% sweetspotted and it combos into f-air sometimes
U-tilt is your "safest" kill move

 

[HarajukuNinja]

Aye… all my Sheik main friends couldn't shut up about the nerd if they tried…. and even I've tried.. >.<

From what I've experienced playing her…. it really isn't too much to get worked up over.

I wasn't really bothered by Sonic getting hit with a nerf and I use him quite a lot. Guess some people are just that finicky.

People tend to exaggerate nerfs by a lot. I remember during the 1.0.4 patch everyone thought she was garbage.

 

[Furret]

The Smash 4 stream was really laggy.

It sounded like a problem with twitch by the looks of it, they usually are the cause of the problem

 

[Tilk]

People tend to exaggerate nerfs by a lot. I remeber during the 1.0.4 patch everyone thought she was garbage.

Oh my gosh yes.

People were flipping their Sh*t over that… kind of like they are now… and over Mewtwo… who's cool and all… but…. eh.

People will be people.

 

[FullMoon]

Character gets nerfed is the same thing as character becoming terrible guys.

Just ask Greninja and Meta Knight.

 

[S.F.L.R_9]

@ Macchiato Is that custom tournament you were watching still being streamed? If so can you (or anyone else here who's watching it) link me please?

 

[Macchiato]

@ Macchiato Is that custom tournament you were watching still being streamed? If so can you (or anyone else here who's watching it) link me please?

Team sp00ky
http://www.twitch.tv/teamsp00ky/mobile

 

[Rizen]

Link was already mid tier at best; he didn't need to be nerfed to low tier. Then characters like Yoshi get buffed

 

[|ven|]

Welp I won first place by default lol ggs

 

[Nammy12]

It sounded like a problem with twitch by the looks of it, they usually are the cause of the problem

Their servers are probably going crazy due to league right now.

 

[Koiba]

Hello! Sheep are my fave

Haha ha sheep are adorable :3

 

[Rickster]

Welp I won first place by default lol ggs

What is even happening on the stream now? I see a bunch of Falcon Kicks, Raptor Boosts, and rolling, lol. Are they doing friendlies or what?

But congrats!

 

[Antonykun]

Haha ha sheep are adorable :3

yes very cute

 

[Trieste SP]

Welp I won first place by default lol ggs

Honestly I think you're the only person here that got 1st place only with Zelda. Congrats by the way !

 

[Cenizas]

I'll play.

Sorry I didn't get to you I wasn't feeling well. You still game?

 

[Soul.]

I've been wasting my time trying out Villager.
eh

 

[Lavani]

Can I just say

Apex 2015

Was better organised than Sandstorm

While I'm not saying I disagree with you, Twitch in general's been crapping itself due to LoL tournaments today and is where most of the problems are coming from currently.

Though, yesterday they had to tether off a phone because the venue's internet was that bad...

AirVault's Marth is destroying btw

Marth in Sm4sh top 8!

 

[Deleted member]

GUYS I JUST WATCHED ALICIA VILLAREAL PERFORM SI UNA VEZ BY SELENA AND IT WAS FREAKING GREAT.

 

[Tilk]

So one of my friends sent me a link to this song knowing I love Zelda music to cheer me up...

What do you gorls think?

 

[Nammy12]

Sorry I didn't get to you I wasn't feeling well. You still game?

Sure, could you add this friend code instead?
3411-0757-3017
I haven't updated my 3DS so I'll be using my sister's.

 

[CatRaccoonBL]

yes very cute

Yeah, I'm very much glad that you agree.

 

[Cenizas]

Sure, could you add this friend code instead?
3411-0757-3017
I haven't updated my 3DS so I'll be using my sister's.

Ready when you are.

 

[Estel Elessar]

@EODM07 @ Ffamran @ Fernosaur @SBphiloz4 @ CatRaccoonBL @evmaxy54

Thank you all SO much…. I really needed that. >w<

I still haven't heard anything so at this point I'm going to go with everyone's opinion and just leave it be…. I don't want to sound like a nuisance…

Hopefully this thing gets resolved… and I'm holding out hope…. but I would prefer that SOMETHING were to happen soon…. anything is probably better than all the patience and waiting I have to endure…. which is killing me internally….

I'll be alright though. Thanks for the uplifting thoughts. ^^

Senpai didn't notice me... sadface.jpg

Hope this clears up soon for you though, I bet the vast majority have been through the same kind of thing and know it's real tough. Hang in there

 

[Ffamran]

Character gets nerfed is the same thing as character becoming terrible guys.

Just ask Greninja and Meta Knight.

Ahem... Forgetting someone.

Haha ha sheep are adorable :3

Meeeeeeh.

On an unrelated note... DAMN YOU, BRAWL! Why are you limited to 2GB SD cards?! How am I supposed to try out PM now without using Homebrew or whatever?! In other, other news, Wii Fit Trainer and Peach catfight on the teamsp00ky stream.

 

[Tilk]

Senpai didn't notice me... sadface.jpg

Hope this clears up soon for you though, I bet the vast majority have been through the same kind of thing and know it's real tough. Hang in there

OH MY….

I'm Sorry…. >.< Thank you! I was just looking at the one page… my mistake…

 

[Nammy12]

Ready when you are.

Room's open.

 

[Trieste SP]

I'm too lazy to read back 6 pages since I was gone.

Can anyone here tell me what's going on right now.

 

[Koiba]

Ahem... Forgetting someone.

Meeeeeeh.

On an unrelated note... DAMN YOU, BRAWL! Why are you limited to 2GB SD cards?! How am I supposed to try out PM now without using Homebrew or whatever?! In other, other news, Wii Fit Trainer and Peach catfight on the teamsp00ky stream.

How can you not like sheep?

 

[Estel Elessar]

OH MY….

I'm Sorry…. >.< Thank you! I was just looking at the one page… my mistake…

LOL don't worry about it. You got bigger things to think about

In other news, picked up this today:

Spoiler

Ain't she purty?

EDIT: Spoilered for huge

 

[kenniky]

In other news, picked up this today:

Spoiler

Ain't she purty?

EDIT: Spoilered for huge

Congrats!

Huge is right though, I clicked on image to expand and almost got a heart attack

 

[Koiba]

LOL don't worry about it. You got bigger things to think about

In other news, picked up this today:

Spoiler

Ain't she purty?

EDIT: Spoilered for huge

Welcome to the family

 

[kenniky]

I'm too lazy to read back 6 pages since I was gone.

Can anyone here tell me what's going on right now.

Okay honestly I read every page and even I don't know what's going on.

You're probably not missing much.

 

[Fernosaur]

I use this song in my Rococo set room in ACNL. It's oddly fitting (especially with the creepy mannequin dressed up in a king outfit).

Also, how do I Villager? I kinda want to pick her up, but I don't know what to do except for fair/bair spam and that usmash oos is life. (i guess this also applies to @ Fernosaur , too).

U-smash OoS is good but not thaaat good. Nair is much safer OoS, and d-air is also a good OoS option because it's a super lingering hitbox, you just have to know when to use it to punish and when to use it for retreat. You don't really have to depend that much on the slingshots, since IMO they're better to follow up combos with poke damage from afar, and for carrying people to the other side of the stage so you can attempt to edge guard either with a bowling ball, tree, or with a wall of nairs. Just be mindful of whose recovery you're trying to intercept, with which you'll know which aerial to use. Also, u-air is really good at juggling because of the lingering hitbox.

Lloyd's best use is as a set up or as an "incidental" follow up. Put up a Lloyd and wait to see how they react. Most of them will sit on their shields, so you can grab them. If they're savvy, they'll wait for you to come in and dodge your grab, so you can either make an empty approach and punish the shield grab or spot dodge with a rising nair or with a d-smash (it's frame 6 so it will beat a lot of standing grabs).

Never forget that you can go down every stage so long as it hasn't got a wall too. It's not a quick recovery, but if you're up against someone harassing you off-stage (like WFT or other Villagers tend to do) you can always go to the other ledge to make a safe(r) return.

Also, the pivot grab range is RIDICULOUS. It's honestly the better use of grab for Villager because the hitbox is massive enough that you can throw it out without *much* concern about getting punished unless you're up against really fast characters.

Jab is frame 3 (just like nair), and very slightly disjointed, so you can use it to stuff approaches and to prevent punishes if you attack someone's shield. Jab can actually stop Monkey Flip and a lot of other approaching specials, so it's good to keep it in mind. Also, floaty characters can eat a grab if you jab cancel, and other fast fallers can be d-tilted after one or two jabs, which can be followed up by a fair. Just be careful of who you're up against because, for example, Greninja can jab you out of your own jab, and luigi, villager, ness among others can Nair before you can do a follow up, so in those particular MUs shield right after jabbing to punish their counterattack.

Eh I'm going off the rails here, but yeah, Villager's aerial game is very good. The ground game isn't AMAZING, but it's disjointed and safeish enough to be good with it. f-tilt is a tad slow, but it's a great follow up to your low knockback attacks like nair and the late hit on dair and uair. U-tilt can kill, but some characters can interrupt it with nair. The good thing about u-tilt is that the move lasts a lot, so you can set up landing traps or punish rolls with it, otherwise it's not amazing.

Timber is more reliable to set up axe kills or kills by growing the tree, tbh. Cutting the tree down is lethal (and can be an amazing and deadly edgeguard if you set it up correctly) but it's not gonna happen often. The tree growing up is a massive hitbox that lingers and does 18% on a hit, and will kill at about 80 or 90%, so keep it with you and try to bring your opponent towards your sapling if you got one on the floor. The watering can can actually gimp some recoveries, which is hilarious, but it won't happen much. You can also use it to push some approaches back and maybe you'll get a free punish if they used a particularly laggy attack, but that's a bit unreliable because the windbox isn't too powerful.

Also, Pocket is life.

 

[Trieste SP]

You're probably not missing much.

Good, I was afraid I was missing out on some news or drama.