Guide Zelda Social: But also the FE Heroes Internet Cafe

[DoctorDub]

What does he do when you approach? Most roll back so just read the back roll, preferibly with a grab so you can punish and do more damage.

He runs. He's faster than Zelda. He can do that. If I corner him, he's on shield pressure, just throwing out his super armoured moves. I can't respond to that.

 

[Antonykun]

I now realize i have a thing for Blue and Yellow color schemes along with Orange and Light blue color schemes

 

[Soul.]

How to beat Mac as Zelda 101:
1. Don't use Zelda

 

[|ven|]

He runs. He's faster than Zelda. He can do that. If I corner him, he's on shield pressure, just throwing out his super armoured moves. I can't respond to that.

Just try to read his landings and where he will run to. If anything bait him to run to the other side and teleport in to him.

 

[DoctorDub]

Just try to read his landings and where he will run to. If anything bait him to run to the other side and teleport in to him.

But... But...
I tried all that.
It didn't work.
He was so stubborn.

You don't understand.
I had no clear options.

I took one stock off him and then he was like "Nah, not doing this." It would have gone to time if I hadn't tried to be the attacker.

 

[UkeNicky]

I now realize i have a thing for Blue and Yellow color schemes along with Orange and Light blue color schemes

Funny when you realize you like certain color schemes all of a sudden eh?
My favorites are orange and purple and purple and green.

The orange and purple thing makes everyone go "Waaat" lol

 

[Lavani]

But... But...
I tried all that.
It didn't work.
He was so stubborn.

You don't understand.
I had no clear options.

I took one stock off him and then he was like "Nah, not doing this." It would have gone to time if I hadn't tried to be the attacker.

If you took a stock and he wasn't approaching, then why not just let it go to time?

 

[|ven|]

But... But...
I tried all that.
It didn't work.
He was so stubborn.

You don't understand.
I had no clear options.

I took one stock off him and then he was like "Nah, not doing this." It would have gone to time if I hadn't tried to be the attacker.

You can do it yo! Mac mu is easy imo just be really patient and it's a good idea not to side dodge, Just block. if anything you can bait him to do moves that have a long recovery for him and just punish. Jump around cause his air game sucks

 

[DoctorDub]

If you took a stock and he wasn't approaching, then why not just let it go to time?

Because I was down one, too.
Why would he camp if he was going to lose?

 

[Antonykun]

Funny when you realize you like certain color schemes all of a sudden eh?
My favorites are orange and purple and purple and green.

The orange and purple thing makes everyone go "Waaat" lol

I mean I already knew about orange and sky blue but I noticed blue and yellow after contemplating picking up Dedede for his blue and yellow color scheme

 

[DoctorDub]

You can do it yo! Mac mu is easy imo just be really patient and it's a good idea not to side dodge, Just block. if anything you can bait him to do moves that have a long recovery for him and just punish. Jump around cause his air game sucks

There is being patient, and then there is waiting for someone to stop running to the other end of the stage, taunting you. He was running on what seemed like a sure punish only. Me running about didn't phase him. I'd have to do an attack with lag for him to bolt in, smack me and run off.

 

[Antonykun]

against stone wall macs I would recommend shielding a lot and maybe up throwing if you somehow get the opportunity

 

[Deleted member]

So I let my lil bro play MK7 and Dad said it was time for him to sleep. He gave me the 3DS and I see he was about to start a balloon battle on Big Donut...and he was using Rosalina. The race started, and I immediately drove Rosalina off the edge and watched her fall in the lava c:

 

[|ven|]

So I let my lil bro play MK7 and Dad said it was time for him to sleep. He gave me the 3DS and I see he was about to start a balloon battle on Big Donut...and he was using Rosalina. The race started, and I immediately drove Rosalina off the edge and watched her fall in the lava c:

My heart. Please write more poetry
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[2004Zilla]

Resisting the urge to change my avatar is easier said than done.

 

[Trieste SP]

Resisting the urge to change my avatar is easier said than done.

Do it.

 

[2004Zilla]

Do it.

Sorry man got to hang on to Waifu-Samus Rosie a little longer.

 

[Alphatron]

I was really hoping to see Will vs. MikeKirby in loser's finals...

 

[Trieste SP]

Sorry man got to hang on to Waifu-Samus Rosie a little longer.

I can't stand being with the same avatar. It's the reason I change it pretty much everyday.

The hard part is finding one and editing/resizing a picture that I like.

 

[Ffamran]

I was really hoping to see Will vs. MikeKirby in loser's finals...

Mike Kirby scooping up John 4 times with Upper Cutter was hilarious, though. And then MIKE KIRBY DIED!

 

[Berserker.]

Somebody in the Shulk boards found out that with Shield activated there isn't enough hitstun to do the infinite until very high percents (Shield lowers the time Shulk is paralyzed for.) You can also switch arts during the infinite so it isn't really an infinite on him

My morning was made when our boi found out.

mfw seeing 'lewd' pics of

Why is the internet so ****ed?

 

[Trieste SP]

Mike Kirby is the premium Kirby main. He's just so good with Kirby.

 

[Ffamran]

*sigh* That one guy who keeps bring up Link and how he's not bad all the time even when the topic is (almost always) not about Link. Nobody even said Link was bad, but here comes that one guy saying Link's not bad and providing trivial examples since stuff on paper always works in practice.

Edit: This gfycat link!

buahhhhhh

https://gfycat.com/LinedUnequaledKilldeer

 

[Soul.]

Went to the Impressions thread and I'm already yawning.
LGL of 25 wtf.

 

[Berserker.]

Wait a minute.... Zero switched... to Sheik?

Heard his Diddy lost to little Mac so idk if Ally is BS'ing or not

Edit: Confirmed. Zero switched. LOL @Macchiato

 

[Furret]

@redfeatherraven please stop reading several pages worth of comments, instead read a book, write a paper, make some dinner or something productive

Wait a minute.... Zero switched... to Sheik?

Heard his Diddy lost to little Mac so idk if Ally is BS'ing or not

that was for like one match, I've only seen diddy the rest of the tournament

 

[Berserker.]

that was for like one match, I've only seen diddy the rest of the tournament

Alright then

 

[Trieste SP]

Speking of mains. I heard PC Chris mains WiiFit in Smash 4. This is gonna be good.

 

[Rickster]

@ DoctorDub I struggle a ton with that MU too. If he's super armoring through your moves, maybe try grabs? You'll either get hit (no grab armor) or actually grab him, which isn't good for Mac. Or you can just simply shield, just make sure it doesn't get broken. Once he's in the air, try everything to keep him from getting back down, be it simple dash attacks or charged Phantoms, maybe even Din's. If you get him offstage, go nuts. 90% of the time they'll either counter or airdodge when you jump towards them, so just wait it out (of course every player is different; if you see another pattern then adapt to that). All it takes is a fast falling nair and he's usually done, a soft dair will probably do it too. If he UpBs to the ledge try dsmashing him (since it doesn't ledge snap). Now, I haven't actually tried this (lol) but it SHOULD trade, and the angle it sends him at is basically death. Dsmash in general at the ledge is good against him, actually.

I don't have a whole lot to say about the neutral game, unfortunately. He wrecks us here. I usually try SH dairs then retreat or crossup afterwards. An occasional nair might catch him too, and it can start some low percent strings. You could try jabbing (not sure if this stuffs any of his approaches though...) and dtilting (dtilt has a lot of priority for some reason). Don't use any laggy moves like fsmash unless you really think it'll hit. Nayru's is good, but don't abuse it. It's works against him (and other fast chars like Sheik, Falcon, Fox, etc) but it can be baited into a nasty punish.

One more thing about catching his landings. Try baiting airdodges...a lot. His aerials aren't threatening at all, the worst he can do is a counter. Bait the airdodge then regrab.

I hope this helped some, I haven't fought many good Macs, but this is just some stuff in general I've noticed. I hate this MU too.

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Someone explain the Bowser and Bowser Jr. MU to me. I suck at them. I don't see what Zelda has over them. Bowser's ftilt and dtilt just beat Zelda's everything. Jr goes crazy with Clown Kart combos. Help.

EDIT: I hate those MUs with a passion, lol.
EDIT 2: About Mac...don't use Din's while he's onstage. He'll just run past it. Plus Din's in general is lol.

 

[S.F.L.R_9]

@ DoctorDub If he UpBs to the ledge try dsmashing him (since it doesn't ledge snap). Now, I haven't actually tried this (lol) but it SHOULD trade, and the angle it sends him at is basically death. Dsmash in general at the ledge is good against him, actually.

Just tested it and it definitely trades. I also tested the angle and you're right, it's actually horrible. If he's already used his double jump before he up bs, dsmash gimps him at...0%.

 

[Alacion]

How do I become a Heropon? (Or where do I start?)

 

[Berserker.]

Anyone still watching the MVG stream? The stream's laggy in my POV

 

[Lorde]

Someone explain the Bowser and Bowser Jr. MU to me. I suck at them. I don't see what Zelda has over them. Bowser's ftilt and dtilt just beat Zelda's everything. Jr goes crazy with Clown Kart combos. Help.

EDIT: I hate those MUs with a passion, lol.

Shield. Bowser Jr. can literally do nothing to shields. His awful frame 13 (or 14?) grab loses even to Zelda's grab. Kart Dash can be shielded on reaction and then punished if they do the spin out. Idk if you can punish it if they jump cancel it, but you can edgeguard if they go offstage. Mechakoopas and cannonballs can be reflected. Bowser Jr. has trouble killing, so watch out for smashes and the hammer after up b and you'll be fine. There's probably more to mention, but idk what else. I think this one of Zelda's easier match-ups, but I've only played FG Bowser Jr.s so...

 

[Ffamran]

Well, I seem to be having SD card problems... First it was Project M and now, apparently KI:U is 12,000+ blocks while DK:CR3D is 17,000 blocks... Oh, and Star Fox 64: 3D is around 4,500. I only have 20,000 blocks because it's the default, 8GB SDHC card that comes with the 3DS XL and there's some stuff on it. I could go retro and get two Zelda, one Metroid, and one Wario Land game, though.

 

[Soul.]

Anyone still watching the MVG stream? The stream's laggy in my POV

I did and it's absolute garbage.

 

[Lavani]

Anyone still watching the MVG stream? The stream's laggy in my POV

Watching it just fine on my end.

EDIT: I can't read, I'm watching the sm4sh sandstorm stream on mew2king's channel

 

[S.F.L.R_9]

here's my daily post saying that I hate Sonic

 

[「 Derk 」]

Spin to win hog still has legs. Sakurai didn't nerf him enough.

 

[Rickster]

Shield. Bowser Jr. can literally do nothing to shields. His awful frame 13 (or 14?) grab loses even to Zelda's grab. Kart Dash can be shielded on reaction and then punished if they do the spin out. Idk if you can punish it if they jump cancel it, but you can edgeguard if they go offstage. Mechakoopas and cannonballs can be reflected. Bowser Jr. has trouble killing, so watch out for smashes and the hammer after up b and you'll be fine. There's probably more to mention, but idk what else. I think this one of Zelda's easier match-ups, but I've only played FG Bowser Jr.s so...

Ok, I'll try some of this, thanks. One thing I struggle with is the mixups from the Kart. Sometimes its a Bair, sometimes it's a crossup dair, and other times it's an UpB or nothing at all.

I play @Xadrin (calling you out, lol) if you're curious. His Bowser and Bowser Jr. are seriously good.

 

[berserker00]

http://www.twitch.tv/mew2king?hc_location=ufi

MVG Sandstorm Grand Finals going on right now.

It's Nairo vs ZeRo

ZeR0 was KO Punch'd by MVD's Lil Mac early on lol then he switched to Sheik