Gonna start competing in Melee again with Zelda. Best placing was 8/35, hope I can get back to that level.
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Lavani
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Okay this part made me legit sad, ROB didn't deserve nerfs and his uthrow was amazing. I guess Mewtwo gets to keep his title of strongest uthrow but they could've just made it like 10% stronger than ROB's and nobody would've complained*
*someone would've complained
Brinzy
Godfather of the Crimean Mafia
I'll show you recycled.Nice recycled joke you've got there.
What can you steal, and not get in trouble?
2nd base
What did the man steal that caused the officer to arrest him?
2nd base, he's a baseball player.
What base is between 1st and 3rd base?
Zelda, the guy that saves the princess.
FullMoon
i'm just joking with you
Well I just talked to a really good Captain Falcon player and he seems pretty convinced that Greninja beats Falcon 60:40.
Not really sure what to think of that. I personally feel it's even but Falcon is pretty scary in neutral.
Not really sure what to think of that. I personally feel it's even but Falcon is pretty scary in neutral.
And how could you forget about: https://youtu.be/zvT480vKedw?t=58s
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Trieste SP
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If they wanted to get rid of ROBs upthrow at least get rid of Ness back throw.
It's just unfair.
Brinzy
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Finally, someone else says it.
So...she still has all the same weaknesses, right? Sounds like she'd be even worse, since Melee has all that crazy Fox pressure and stuff.
But then there's this old match with Cosmo's Zelda.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eIE4cni6wLg&ab_channel=CosmoSpeedruns
But then there's this old match with Cosmo's Zelda.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eIE4cni6wLg&ab_channel=CosmoSpeedruns
Berserker.
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What happened?
Blossom ✿
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ROB's up throw getting nerfed seriously irked me. There really wasn't much reason to do so when ROB still had his own problems to deal with. I can live without it but still, that's the one thing about the patch I'm not happy with.
Brinzy
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I dunno about Soul but ever since my friend figured out how to follow up with her Dsmash it's been him trying to style on me for the past like, three months.
Uuuuugh.
Trieste SP
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I feel bad for that blonde guy in the front. Just look at how he's sitting lol.
Gameplay is a lot different. Zelda's game relied on kicks a lot more compared to Brawl/Smash 4 that focused more on a ground game.
Lavani
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...huh.
I always thought of that MU as even, at best 55:45 Greninja personally; it was also one of the MUs I planned on keeping Greninja as a secondary for when I picked up Rosalina, but I can't switch between those two playstyles that well and Rosa isn't really much worse off in the MU imo.
I guess I can see where he's coming from since Greninja has a projectile to stuff Falcon's approaches and can gimp him hard, but Falcon's way too scary a character to dismiss on that alone.
Burning Spin Dash isn't invincible anymore in 1.0.6 at least!
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FullMoon
i'm just joking with you
Don't forget that Captain Falcon's disadvantage kinda sucks and Greninja has one of the best advantage states in the game.
I do see how someone could think Greninja wins but... Man Falcon's scary in neutral and kills so early, if he does get the upper hand it's a nightmare.
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I just fought a good one. And no I didn't use Pikachu. Screw using Pikachu in FG.
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So there was this really good Mewtwo (surprisingly) on FG who beat me and next match he tried to Shulk ditto me with the same color and all he did was spam Buster fthrow
so I spammed Buster Back Slash and won
lolbye
so I spammed Buster Back Slash and won
lolbye
Trieste SP
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That's good but... Hammer Spin Dash is the Devil against Zelda.
I have a Sonic main in my region who is the only reason I can't break top 8. I usually place 9th~
But with customs... he's just worse. Now he places top 3 with customs. Ahh... the downsides of custom moves.
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Estel Elessar
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If I could describe any character with one word, it'd be Mario with obnoxious.
Brinzy
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Trieste SP
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Haaaa !Hoo! Hoo! Hoo! Hoo! Hoo! Hoo! Hoo! Hoo! Hoo!
Estel Elessar
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Brinzy
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ya her dair was the weakest
anyways melee zelda essentially had this
which hit for 20% fresh, had two of them, L canceled for less then 10 frames of landing lag, killed at like 80% (against no DI), had priority, (sourspot safe on hit) and **** on all sorts of recoveries. she just like all of her iterations was countered by simple dash dancing and baiting. To quote someone from the INY tournament
Lastly for the record some people do think she is second worse in melee (most notably M2K, but well it's M2K) I'll expect her to fall if there is another official tier list for melee
they got rid of sonic Bthrow not sure how you can complain too much
yay people will stop complaining about my character I JUST REALIZED THIS QQ
nevermind, rip the dream
I have to know, are those supposed to be fire ball sound effects?
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If I could describe any character with 5 words, it'd be Zelda with "Sakurai designed her while drunk"
Estel Elessar
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Spot on, sis
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Lavani
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Yeah, that kinda goes both ways though. Both characters have poor aerials for escaping juggles and the fall speed to get juggled hard - I'd argue that even with Greninja at least having risky tools in Substitute/Shadow Sneak that Greninja fears Falcon's uair (and other options) more than the other way around. I'd definitely rather be a Greninja offstage against Falcon than a Falcon offstage against Greninja, though.
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Brinzy
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Yeah you're right. I shouldn't complain.
I just really hate custom sonic. Regular sonic is fine. No offence to you.
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Lavani
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hi i'm bluecrow now@Furret who does m2k think is the worst
Kirby
http://www.eventhubs.com/news/2014/...iscusses-his-super-smash-bros-tier-list-pt-1/
"Rushed and forced by Nintendo"
Kirby, keep in mind the whole world thinks that and all his tech I've heard of is either@
- suicide stocks or
- borrowed from another character (example: jigglepuff wall of pain, Kirby fence of pain)
lemme be helpful and slow in answering things QQ
I don't like customs period, already have enough match ups to learn.I just really hate custom sonic. Regular sonic is fine. No offence to you.
Sonic also got more nerfs then what was listed in the large thread on patch changes btw.
Brinzy
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ummmm he's on drugs, zelda's frame like, 30 grab is only so long because she can CHAINGRAB SOME TOP TIERS OMG
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stop it with the identity theft
Lavani
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Estel Elessar
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That was about as close as I could come up with for that sound effect
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wow
zelda's Uthrow in melee is really good against fast fallers, still kind of is in smash 4 (too bad Dthrow is better)
crappy chrmndr get him! use scratch
edit: oh forgot the battle music
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Paper Maribro
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People talking about a description of how Zelda was designed? (In 5 words.)
Wasn't there something about Sakurai was having kinky action with his wife while he created Zelda in SSB4 said here, and kept her exactly how she was then (terrible) so he could remember that time?
Wasn't there something about Sakurai was having kinky action with his wife while he created Zelda in SSB4 said here, and kept her exactly how she was then (terrible) so he could remember that time?
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