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You Laugh You Lose: Gentlemen's Club Edition

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We've actually had parents calling smashers about their use of the word **** in a thread.

Let me see if I can get him to talk about it right now.
Sure thing Jamaal. We had a new guy decide to come to one of spsu's smashfests, and this was around the time of Apex2. As a joke, I had hyped up "Apex$2", which was going to be a $2 mini-tournament for those who weren't able to make it to Apex2. I was in that "mango ******" posting mood, so I was like...

"This friday we'll be hosting Apex$2 in celebration of Apex2!!

The entry fee will be $2. ****"
It was something like that, I can't really remember.

That part of the thread was bolded in red, and after that, the main part of the thread was posted:

For those who are looking for Melee or Brawl sex time, we play smash all night long at Southern Poly State University (SPSU) on Friday nights.
.............


This thread was created under the assumption that only my smasher friends would see the thread. We're all used to words like "****" and stuff... but I was dumb to think that new players wouldn't check the thread either v_v

Well, I got really unlucky, because one of these new players was a 15 year old with an over-protective mother, so she checked everything he did (without his knowledge, from what I understood).

She checked the SPSU thread, and she called me the day of the smashfest before I left.

She was like "Hi, my son is going to the "SMASH"fest, and I was just wondering what this is all about."

"Oh.. we're just getting together to play super smash brothers, and we usually play all night"

"Uh huh... so what's this about "****"..?"

*derp* "um... that's just a common term we use in the community.. it's supposed to be for fun and nothing serious at all"

"Ok, and what about Melee and Brawl sex time.. HMMM??"

*facedesk* "All of that is just a joke ma'am. The smash community is known to be the friendliest gaming community and we're very respectful and accepting of anyone. We just play video games and have a good time" (LOL bad choice of wording)
(this probably sounded really gay to her or something)

"Mhmm.. Ok. I just want to make sure my child is going to be safe. You sound trusting, so I'll let him go to the smashfest. Please just don't let him know that I've been snooping around and that I gave you a call"

"Yes ma'am, you can trust me"

So basically:

LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL

just be smart about what you say.
 

Umby

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"Mhmm.. Ok. I just want to make sure my child is going to be safe. You sound trusting, so I'll let him go to the smashfest. Please just don't let him know that I've been snooping around and that I gave you a call"
I lost. She was probably eating a salad and laughing when she said this.
 

GHNeko

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Brawl, Melee, and other Nintendo games we play are rated E for everyone,






And you and I both know that SSB64 is only rated E simply due to the time period it was released in where people took video games a lot less seriously, including ESRB.






so the site also should be accessible by everyone, regardless of views or age.
Bull ****ing ****. This website should NOT be accessible to everyone simply because of the competitive mentality we have buried deep inside which serves at the root for Smash boards. No kid under 15 should learn to be as competitive as us without learning some maturity prior to. Not only that, but also because a super majority of the people of the website are around the ages of 17+. It'd be foolish to regularly let kids under 15 regularly visit here and attempt to cater to them by making this site more accessible for them, in my opinion at least.

That opinion goes for competitive gaming period.

Point is proven from how ****ing ******** kids can get over Xbox live. They shouldnt be playing at such a level when they can't even be mature enough to properly respect opponents, learn from defeat, etc etc.
 

Caleb Wolfbrand

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LMAO, ****.

speaking of ****, Xavier made a pretty good post on this debate, not that I really want the debate to continue, but I agree with that... The world is degenerating, though, I wonder... Just how rare it is to find a kid over 12 who doesn't curse nowadays? Not like this discussion could change the site anyway.

Competitive gaming IS rough on people who haven't matured enough. They think they're ready for it, but then when they lose and start... Damn, now all I can think about is those stupid Xbox live kids who curse all the time.
 

Winnar

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That Rattata comic reminds me of this one guy in Gold/Silver/Crystal. He'll constantly call you, saying that his Rattata is the best Rattata ever, and then you hack the game and find out that his Rattata's IV's were perfect for every stat.

Guy wasn't lying!
Seriously? That's...kind of cool lol

Also spiders XFD
 
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I think you can't play on xbox live unless you're 13 years or older anyway.

Then there's an M rating for popular shooting games like CoD, Halo, and Battlefield.

The ESRB sets up clear guidelines of appropriate and inappropriate games to play for a range of ages.

If parents choose to ignore those and expose their kids to violence in games or crude language and subject matter, that's their own damn fault.
 

Purple

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gerty how old are you
I'm 15 actually.

This brings in the fact that competitive gaming =/= smashboards. Competitive Gaming usually serves in maturity along with it. Learning from your losses instead of crying about it, taking time and dedication, etc. However just because competitive gamers are usually older, doesn't mean they always are. Mike G was talking about some kid back in Melee MLG days that was beating people and how old was he? 13? He might be mature, but he might also still have over protective parents who check his every move.

I'm curious, why do people have to learn to be mature in order to play competitively. Technically you only have to learn the game to play it. You're adding stuff that really isn't important and making it seem detrimental.

I -think- (i wouldn't exactly know, because i haven't made any new accounts in a while), that SWF allows people who are +13 to register. Because of that, SWF has to abide by rules; websites can get shut down if there is explicit content allowed to people under 18, this is why pornography and violent content is not allowed.

But this is obvious, very few people ever post things that fit in this category.

The reason SWF to my knowledge disallows anything else is because allowing a grey area to be shown can cause some trouble. To most of us, seeing a child getting beaten by some black guy isn't bad, and in context to WHY he was getting beaten it could be in fact, hilarious. However to a child's parent, it could be disgusting to watch, or insulting.

On top of this, what one person might think is okay, may seem inappropiate to another. If i showed a girl with a huge bust and a micro-bikini, some may think "no nipples? no problem!" a child's mother may find it explicit and can cause trouble.

Fact is, to keep SWF from having sort of trouble, we decided instead of allowing the grey area to go unpunished, that it should be removed entirely.

I don't think that's going to change, because quite frankly, the majority of the site functions quite well without explicit content or questionable content, so why change it to where it -might- cause trouble, or -might- get the website shut down temporarily due to angry parents?
 

Jane

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alright.


tl;dr very valid points have been made for the loosening of SWF rules, but the fact of the matter is they probably arent going to change.

lets move on? :D

 

ihavespaceblondes

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blablabla about keeping it clean

And then the mod posts probably the ONLY worksafe comics from oglaf, which is about as nswf as you can get with webcomics.

What.
 

GHNeko

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You can't remove the grey area completely, because in order to have black and white, you need a sense of "absolute judgement".

We can't do that because there are things that some mods will think is white, and others will think is black, and where an admin thinks its black and the rest of the site says its white.

In order to have any form of community, a grey area is required for the sanity and peace of us all.

Also, to play competitively you need to be mature. Why? So that you can learn from your experiences in order to improve as a competitive player allowing you to win more, which is the purpose of competitiveness.

If you're not mature enough to properly grasp the catalysts of your wins and losses and simply make excuses or call things cheap and never figure things out or give up multiple times in multiple case and so on and so forth (I really could go on) then how do you expect to win? The heart of competitive gaming is pretty much home to the "Play to Win" mentality, and while it may not always be the sole method that dictates a community, it more or less is always a major guideline within all competitive communities, no matter how much or how little elitism occurs within that community.

The ability to accept how the competitive community plays a specific game and whatever way they play said game stems from how mature you are as a person.

And kids who are considered more mature than their actual age by public opinion, usually are outliers and are uncommon, if not, rare. Same as 17+ year olds who consistently cannot take losses well and never improve due to their lack of maturity and understanding.


I'd also like to add, the content on this website is never intended for anyone under 15 years. Most people on this site post content aimed around the age of 17+ because when they post, the post as if they're talking to their peers, which are pretty much their own age group.

Due to this, it's up to the parents to gauge whether this site is okay or not for their parents. But they are ******** if they try to attack the site and it's policies rather than removing their child from the site if they deem this place unfit for their children, rather than setting up a parental block over Smashboards.

AND as for the "YOU MUST BE 13 YRS OR OLDER" warning when you join SWF. That's nothing more than the warning for a default vB installation which has never been changed since this sites inception. Not only that, but even if it was set to something like 16+ or older, without a solid method of verifying identity, than any new user attempting to join can simply spoof a fake age and get away with it until they goof and get caught. So really, the age warning has very little weight on keeping out those who shouldn't be up here. I can only see it being effective is if a parent actually takes the time out to read the content during the log in process, which a super majority do not simply because they are not good enough parents.


EDIT: loool whoops. i was typing this up as you guys posted LOL.
 

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oh, well that's oddly enough, collapse/collapse

That's a form of maturity yes Neko, but at the same time does that mean you have to be mature in all aspects in order to be a good gamer? You can take a loss and still be immature in other aspects. I get where you're coming from though, you have to have some form of maturity in order to play competitively.
 

Umby

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alright.


tl;dr very valid points have been made for the loosening of SWF rules, but the fact of the matter is they probably arent going to change.

lets move on? :D

For some reason, when I saw this, I thought of that Robot Unicorn Attack song.


Don't ask why.
 

GHNeko

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Imo, taking a loss and taking a loss to learn from it is what seperates a real competitive gamer from a poser, and the mature from the immature.

They go side by side in my head.

But regardless.

 
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