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[FalKoopa]

I wouldn't say Eliwood sucks. He is a fine unit, but I felt Lyn and Hector were better in comparison.

 

[ChronoBound]

The thing is though is that the consensus is though is that Eliwood is at the very least better than Lyn as an unit. PEMN.

 

[Diddy Kong]

The funny thing is that Eliwood is regarded as being a better unit than Lyn, and is even arguably better than Hector on Hector Mode. Eliwood is an underrated lord (perhaps the most underrated one in the entire series).

That might be so, but he always ends up worse than both in my playthroughs. Roy generally even ends up being better than Eliwood for me if that's saying anything. And I refuse to believe Hector is worse than Eliwood in any mode.

 

[xXIke-SamaXx]

Whom we will probably never see again.

Do you have any source that support your comment ? because as far as I can see there's none, Maybe we'll see him or maybe not so it's even both assumptions stand 50-50 chance, you can't got cherry picking which is considered quite the unprofessional act.

 

[xXIke-SamaXx]

The funny thing is that Eliwood is regarded as being a better unit than Lyn, and is even arguably better than Hector on Hector Mode. Eliwood is an underrated lord (perhaps the most underrated one in the entire series).

I always take the best care of my Eliwood, I just love the Durandal, that's why he ends up the best in my save file.

 

[Swamp Sensei]

Do you have any source that support your comment ? because as far as I can see there's none, Maybe we'll see him or maybe not so it's even both assumptions stand 50-50 chance, you can't got cherry picking which is considered quite the unprofessional act.

He's a downloable non-canon character who's only real purpose is to be a throwback to Ike. He has no other contribution to the story.

On top of that he is not a fan favorite. I don't have a source but one can use simple logic. He's not important or popular enough to return.

 

[Diddy Kong]

With such a small role, I don't think it's really possible for him to become really popular. And I don't think he's just a random throwback to Ike without a purpose. Or at least, I hope he isn't. That'd be more of a slap in the face to Ike fans than anything else.

 

[FalKoopa]

Another point I'd like to make: Priam is supposedly popular just because he is a descendant of Ike.

Then why not use Ike himself for the next game?

 

[Diddy Kong]

Well that could work to. I definitely would buy another game starring Ike.

 

[xXIke-SamaXx]

He's a downloable non-canon character who's only real purpose is to be a throwback to Ike. He has no other contribution to the story.

On top of that he is not a fan favorite. I don't have a source but one can use simple logic. He's not important or popular enough to return.

Yea logic doesn't apply here....and he is canon...swamp please don't talk out of your....never mind, before you talk please use facts, logic and facts are two different things.

 

[Diddy Kong]

If Priam wasn't canon, Ragnell wouldn't be all cracked up and ****.

 

[xXIke-SamaXx]

If Priam wasn't canon, Ragnell wouldn't be all cracked up and ****.

Priam is canon that's why we have him for free, DLC and spotpass is the non-canon part of the game, trust me they won't be that kind if he wasn't canon.

 

[Diddy Kong]

I don't think a nerfed Ragnell is really that kind though, but I see what you mean.

 

[Swamp Sensei]

Yea logic doesn't apply here....and he is canon...swamp please don't talk out of your....never mind, before you talk please use facts, logic and facts are two different things.

We have no real facts to discuss. Logic is the only reasonable substitute. However, if you want to use facts. Where is YOUR proof that Priam is canon? Any sources? No. You're using logic. WHICH YOU JUST CRITICIZED ME FOR USING!!! YEESH!!!

What's the point of typing out an almost insult if you stop and correct yourself halfway through? You're speaking through text, if you actually want to correct yourself, you can do so. There is no point unless you want me to read that. I was being nice. No need to be dickish.

 

[xXIke-SamaXx]

Oh and By the way Swamp Priam was #13 in the Japanese male popularity poll and he barely had any line.

Source:http://www.nintendo.co.jp/fe/kakusei_bk/kekka/index.html

 

[Swamp Sensei]

13 out of 26 isn't very impressive.

 

[FalKoopa]

DLC and spotpass is the non-canon part of the game.

You're contradicting yourself. Priam is a Spotpass character, which makes him non-canon.

 

[xXIke-SamaXx]

We have no real facts to discuss. Logic is the only reasonable substitute. However, if you want to use facts. Where is YOUR proof that Priam is canon? Any sources? No. You're using logic. WHICH YOU JUST CRITICIZED ME FOR USING!!! YEESH!!!

What's the point of typing out an almost insult if you stop and correct yourself halfway through? You're speaking through text, if you actually want to correct yourself, you can do so. There is no point unless you want me to read that. I was being nice. No need to be ****ish.

He is canon, because those spotpass are, the thing that you call logic comes with this piece of advice "The accused is innocent until proven guilty" this goes for the spotpass to "The spotpass chapters are canon until proven otherwise".

 

[xXIke-SamaXx]

You're contradicting yourself. Priam is a Spotpass character, which makes him non-canon.

By spotpass I meant the characters from the old games, Priam is a Spotpass chapter....he has a whole map for himself. I believe they even made a music just for him.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1RMubxV3iv8

 

[xXIke-SamaXx]

13 out of 26 isn't very impressive.

That's very impressive for someone who barely had any line in the story....

Edit: And BTW him being that poll shows you that he is canon, because only canon characters can be part of that poll.

 

[Swamp Sensei]

He is canon, because those spotpass are, the thing that you call logic comes with this piece of advice "The accused is innocent until proven guilty" this goes for the spotpass to "The spotpass chapters are canon until proven otherwise".

Using logic again when you still criticized me for it....

I guess we really can't prove if they were canon one way or another. Priam is just one big "?" until we get word from the makes of the game.

That's very impressive for someone who barely had any line in the story....

Edit: And BTW him being that poll shows you that he is canon, because only canon characters can be part of that poll.

13 out of 26 is 50%. That's an F. Not impressive in the slightest.

If Priam wasn't a descendant of Ike, he would not be this popular. That's the main reason you like him right?

If being on the poll decides on whether you are canon or not, then where is the avatar? Is he/she non-canon? If Priam was meant to be canon then why not put him in the original game.

 

[xXIke-SamaXx]

Using logic again when you still criticized me for it....

I guess we really can't prove if they were canon one way or another. Priam is just one big "?" until we get word from the makes of the game.

13 out of 26 is 50%. That's an F. Not impressive in the slightest.

If Priam wasn't a descendant of Ike, he would not be this popular. That's the main reason you like him right?

If being on the poll decides on whether you are canon or not, then where is the avatar? Is he/she non-canon? If Priam was meant to be canon then why not put him in the original game.

The Avatar is #3....Wow that shows how much you know about the game, Swamp please stick to defending Reidly...this is my turf bro don't come argue with me, I'm dead sure Priam is Canon....

 

[FalKoopa]

The Avatar is there; for some reason, his/her hair is coloured brown, which is odd.

 

[Swamp Sensei]

The Avatar is #3....

Oh. Totally thought that was someone else because of the hair.

As far as I know. That avatar's portrait should have white hair right?

 

[FalKoopa]

Oh. Totally thought that was someone else because of the hair.

As far as I know. That avatar's portrait should have white hair right?

Maybe the avatar is red/brown haired in the Japanese version.

 

[Swamp Sensei]

Maybe the avatar is red/brown haired in the Japanese version.

Nah...

Avatar just wanted to look all spiffy for the poll.

And I give up. Too much effort. I'll go stick to defending "Reidly." Look Ike-Sama. I just stated my opinion and you started to get in my grill. I was trying to be nice about it too but you've insulted me about three times now. When have I insulted you?

Either way I'm done arguing about this.

 

[xXIke-SamaXx]

Maybe the avatar is red/brown haired in the Japanese version.

Well the children hair is not set on stone either but they seem they put them in a hair color.

 

[xXIke-SamaXx]

Nah...

Avatar just wanted to look all spiffy for the poll.

And I give up. Too much effort. I'll go stick to defending "Reidly." Look Ike-Sama. I just stated my opinion and you started to get in my grill. I was trying to be nice about it too but you've insulted me about three times now. When have I insulted you?

Either way I'm done arguing about this.

Sorry man, I'm pretty vicious when it comes to Ike (ask the yaoi shippers they hate me).....don't take it personal, I know you are intelligent and sophisticated.

 

[Diddy Kong]

Of coarse Priam has his popularity due to him being Ike's descendant. Just as Lucina has her popularity cause of... you know

Spoiler

Being Masked Marth and all.

Does this still needs to be spoiler tagged? I mean, I never played Awakening, but I really don't care about being spoiled.

 

[FalKoopa]

That's why it would better if Ike instead appears in the next FE game.

 

[Robert of Normandy]

Spoiler

Being Masked Marth and all.

Does this still needs to be spoiler tagged? I mean, I never played Awakening, but I really don't care about being spoiled.

FE: A still isn't out in Europe yet, so yeah, this stuff should be spoilered.

Any word if Smashboards plans to bring back the blacked-out text?

Edit: on FE14, I'm hoping either for a game focusing on the second generation of FE13, a game following Priam. I'm also hoping we get to see more descendants.

Spoiler

Would have much rather gotten descendants for Roy, Ephraim/Eirika, Sigurd/Seliph, or Leif as Spotpass characters than Emmeryn or Aversa...

 

[Fire Emblemier]

I love how Ike has 7 portraits and he only has 2 games, while Marth doesn't even have seven when he has four or five games. This also shows Ike is the best lord, maybe that's why he's no noble to show superiority. Sorry if your a big fan of other lords and you think I'm dissing them.

 

[Gingerbread Man]

Of coarse Priam has his popularity due to him being Ike's descendant. Just as Lucina has her popularity cause of... you know

Spoiler

Being Masked Marth and all.

Does this still needs to be spoiler tagged? I mean, I never played Awakening, but I really don't care about being spoiled.

The spoiler is a pretty obvious one. But yeah its better to be safe. Plus its better to stay in the habit because there are some much bigger spoilers.

But I have to disagree with you. I think Lucina has enough of a story and character that she earned her fame herself.

 

[xXIke-SamaXx]

That's why it would better if Ike instead appears in the next FE game.

Wouldn't be awesome if the next game was like FE4 where you have 2 generations, first you play as Ike generation than you play as Priam's generation....

 

[FalKoopa]

Isn't Priam a few thousand years ahead of Ike's time? I mean, like Chrom and

Spoiler

Marth

 

[Fire Emblemier]

Yea,maybe they remake 7 they can morph 6 and 7 into one game would make sense, but people would get annoyed that it takes forever to get Roy and his army

 

[Fire Emblemier]

Isn't Priam a few thousand years ahead of Ike's time? I mean, like Chrom and

Spoiler

Marth

We don't know for sure for all we know Ike could be his father.

 

[Robert of Normandy]

Yea,maybe they remake 7 they can morph 6 and 7 into one game would make sense, but people would get annoyed that it takes forever to get Roy and his army

They could make it like FE3 where you could pick which game to start in, and only have changes to FE6 if you played the FE7 mode.

 

[Gingerbread Man]

We don't know for sure for all we know Ike could be his father.

It would have been more obvious. Plus Ike probably wouldn't have been a Legend talked about on foreign continents if that was the case.

 

[Fire Emblemier]

It would have been more obvious. Plus Ike probably wouldn't have been a Legend talked about on foreign continents if that was the case.

Yea, but it could have been earlier or farther, we would also wanted to play as Ike more than Priam, Too bad, a majority of the Spotpass characters don't look like they should espicially Ike since he needs the headband, scarf and cape at least