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every spotpass and DLC character is literally just made with the avatar's customization options. Its sort of disappointing.
 

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Wouldn't be awesome if the next game was like FE4 where you have 2 generations, first you play as Ike generation than you play as Priam's generation....
Could easily work. But I'd think Ike has to die in the story line if this would happen. Not that that would make him less awesome, as it worked for Sigurd and Hector to. Speaking of, if that WOULD happen, all my favorite Lords died in battle. There could be ways without having to kill of Ike, but he'd have to 'fail' somehow to make it believable. And that doesn't really suit Ike now. :rolleyes:

It could also work as having Ike being playable in a kind of prologue. Similar to Lyn's story, but unaffected by the main story. Which'd be Priam's. Or maybe we'll have another Fire Emblem with multiple Parts, like in Radiant Dawn?

Yea,maybe they remake 7 they can morph 6 and 7 into one game would make sense, but people would get annoyed that it takes forever to get Roy and his army
It'll be worth it though. And they could easily make the game so big, that you wouldn't mind it at all waiting so long. Ike appears rather late in Radiant Dawn as well- but he remains one of the most popular characters to date in FE10.

Besides, they could expand the Fire Emblem 6 'part' of the game by incoperating more Chapters, side-quests and what not. If they could make you visit BOTH the Ilia and Sacae routes that'd already help. Also, Eliwood and Hector chapters maybe? Afterall, Eliwood becomes general of the Lycian Army defending the borders while Roy takes on Bern. So a few battles fought as Eliwood and some FE7 characters can be added. As well as Hector. Cause even though he died, he was appearantly under heavy attack. That could make for some 'defend the throne' chapters, or 'defend for X turns' chapters.

What I'd also like to see is a bundled Path of Radiance and Radiant Dawn. But am not expecting to see that happen in this generation. But eventually I think they'll do this.

So, ideas for FE14:

1- Priam's full own game.
2- FE7 and FE6 bundled remake
3- FE9 and FE10 bundeled remake
4- Priam's story is the main game with Ike in the prologue.
 

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I'm going to say I think Ike is cool and should totally stay. I feel like so many fans would be mad if he was replaced with Priam, who I know little about compared to Ike. I also think Japanese fans would rage if there was no Roy. Let's take this one unit at a time, folks!
 

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Could easily work. But I'd think Ike has to die in the story line if this would happen. Not that that would make him less awesome, as it worked for Sigurd and Hector to. Speaking of, if that WOULD happen, all my favorite Lords died in battle. There could be ways without having to kill of Ike, but he'd have to 'fail' somehow to make it believable. And that doesn't really suit Ike now. :rolleyes:

It could also work as having Ike being playable in a kind of prologue. Similar to Lyn's story, but unaffected by the main story. Which'd be Priam's. Or maybe we'll have another Fire Emblem with multiple Parts, like in Radiant Dawn?



It'll be worth it though. And they could easily make the game so big, that you wouldn't mind it at all waiting so long. Ike appears rather late in Radiant Dawn as well- but he remains one of the most popular characters to date in FE10.

Besides, they could expand the Fire Emblem 6 'part' of the game by incoperating more Chapters, side-quests and what not. If they could make you visit BOTH the Ilia and Sacae routes that'd already help. Also, Eliwood and Hector chapters maybe? Afterall, Eliwood becomes general of the Lycian Army defending the borders while Roy takes on Bern. So a few battles fought as Eliwood and some FE7 characters can be added. As well as Hector. Cause even though he died, he was appearantly under heavy attack. That could make for some 'defend the throne' chapters, or 'defend for X turns' chapters.

What I'd also like to see is a bundled Path of Radiance and Radiant Dawn. But am not expecting to see that happen in this generation. But eventually I think they'll do this.

So, ideas for FE14:

1- Priam's full own game.
2- FE7 and FE7 bundled remake
3- FE9 and FE10 bundeled remake
4- Priam's story is the main game with Ike in the prologue.
Like the ideas :D, I have another brilliant Idea Gawain story.... :D it would be awesome and very unorthodox :p.
 

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I think I'm the only guy who would prefer a new game. It would be cool to see a refined FE6/7 but there's a certain thrill to experiencing new characters, stories, and realms.
 

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I don't really want another new game. I feel they should try and work with some of the series content they have now. If they gonna keep making new games and new characters, eventually both will not be as unique as before. We already have Marth and Celice being so similar, and people complaining about Chrom being dull and too much like Ike. I hope they'll do a GOOD remake before they make new games.
 

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Like the ideas :D, I have another brilliant Idea Gawain story.... :D it would be awesome and very unorthodox :p.
I would of loved that to be a flashback chapter in PoR with having control of Daien's four riders with Gawain being the leader, also maybe add Jill's father in the mix, with five units a Hero, Paladin, General, a second General, Wyvern Lord, and hopefully some other units too.
 

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I don't really want another new game. I feel they should try and work with some of the series content they have now. If they gonna keep making new games and new characters, eventually both will not be as unique as before. We already have Marth and Celice being so similar, and people complaining about Chrom being dull and too much like Ike. I hope they'll do a GOOD remake before they make new games.
People who think Chrom is dull have their expectations way too high. Some lords are more bland them him and others are equally exciting.
 

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I think why people think Chrom's bland is because he's a mixture of a lot of lords, he is a descendant of Marth, has a personalty like Ike, He dies, (albeit in an alternate timeline) like Sigurd, Has a child like Eliwood and Sigurd again, Can someone think of more?
 

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I think why people think Chrom's bland is because he's a mixture of a lot of lords, he is a descendant of Marth, has a personalty like Ike, He dies, (albeit in an alternate timeline) like Sigurd, Has a child like Eliwood and Sigurd again, Can someone think of more?
That's pretty much it.

Man, I wish IS would go back to what they did in the GBA/GC days and actually experiment with different types of lords.
 

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Then again, there hasn't been a new sword-Lord since Ike. But here's hoping we'll get a dude that uses only Lances and Axes next time.
 

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Then again, there hasn't been a new sword-Lord since Ike. But here's hoping we'll get a dude that uses only Lances and Axes next time.
Also since they did mention Tellius in Awakening, I wonder what's going on over there during Awakening, because they only showed love to three Continents in the game, and we only travel on 2, so that would make a interesting game. Also Axes will be his primary, when promoted gains lances.
 

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From what I've seen in DLC chapter playthroughs is that Chrom is able to tell each 'Enijar' card character who they are, and where they're from. He always states for example, Ike, from the Tellius lore. Or, Ephraim, from the Magvellian lore. Still, with Priam running around widly with a cracked up Ragnell, I'm sure at least Tellius as a continent is still there. But it's in general good to know all games take place on the same universe.

Anyone wanna start a Fire Emblem timeline discussion? :laugh:
 

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Anyone wanna start a Fire Emblem timeline discussion? :laugh:
Well, we know Awakening is the last game in the timeline. We also know that FE2 takes place sometime during FE1 or between FE1/FE3.

Someone noticed that apparently several tomes in Awakeing have Heron writing in them, which likely means that the Tellius games are the oldest in the timeline. IIRC the Jugdral games happen before the Akaeneia games.

So far it's:

Tellius -> Jugdral -> Akaneia/Gaiden -> Awakening

Edit: That leaves only 3 games to place.
 

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From what I've seen in DLC chapter playthroughs is that Chrom is able to tell each 'Enijar' card character who they are, and where they're from. He always states for example, Ike, from the Tellius lore. Or, Ephraim, from the Magvellian lore. Still, with Priam running around widly with a cracked up Ragnell, I'm sure at least Tellius as a continent is still there. But it's in general good to know all games take place on the same universe.

Anyone wanna start a Fire Emblem timeline discussion? :laugh:
Sure, but there is only a few games that will actually know the others we have to improvise, but with reasoning.
 

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So, Path of Radiance, Radiant Dawn, is Jugdral FE 6 and 7 or 4 and 5, I would put Sacred Stones before Akaneia,Shadow Dragon, Gaiden, Mystery of the Emblem, Awakening. That leaves two but i'm not sure which is which sorry i seem like a idiot right now. Sacred Stones had Risen-like creatures most likely forgotten by Marth's time
 

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So, Path of Radiance, Radiant Dawn, is Jugdral FE 6 and 7 or 4 and 5, I would put Sacred Stones before Akaneia,Shadow Dragon, Gaiden, Mystery of the Emblem, Awakening. That leaves two but i'm not sure which is which sorry i seem like a idiot right now.
Jugdral is 4 and 5. 6 and 7 are Elibe.

Why is Magvel(Sacred Stones) before Akaneia?
 

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Jugdral is 4 and 5. 6 and 7 are Elibe.

Why is Magvel(Sacred Stones) before Akaneia?
They had monsters that were like risen-like creatures and it was probably forgotten by Marth's time making it possible for the Ylisse people not to know.
 

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They had monsters that were like risen-like creatures and it was probably forgotten by Marth's time making it possible for the Ylisse people not to know.
..what? Sacred Stones occurs on a different continent from the Akaneia games, so why would it matter if Ylisseans knew about the Risen or not?

Also, the monsters in SS are NOT Risen. The only species that's common between them are the Revenants and Entombed.
 

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Wasn't Marth like uber famous by the rest of the Lords? You could tell that at least the Judgral characters knew of him in the DLC chapters (from what I've seen).
 

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Wasn't Marth like uber famous by the rest of the Lords? You could tell that at least the Judgral characters knew of him in the DLC chapters (from what I've seen).
DLC chapters are non-canon, remember? And it's been confirmed that the Jugdral games take place years before the Akaneia games.
 

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Revised timeline:
Path of Radiance, Radiant Dawn, Shadow Dragon, Gaiden, Mystery of the Emblem, Genealogy/Tharcia, FE7, Binding Blade, Sacred Stones, Awakening.
The Tellius series didn't mention Marth or anybody from the other games
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Anybody want to talk about that new fire emblem crossover game in development? I read that it's supposed to a RPG, how do you think it would turn out, Do you picture being a turn-based or real-time RPG, or do you feel it's actually might be a strategy because its Fire Emblem.
 

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The other contents are pretty isolated from one another. They likely weren't even aware of other places until awakening. So we can't really place other games on the timeline. Not enough evidence.

Interesting fact though. Morgan's japanese name in awakening is mark, which is the default name for the tactican in FE7. Plus its said in FE7 that your still an apprentice which fits morgan pretty well.
Not saying they are the same, but with time travel being an option now, it can create some interesting theories.
 

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Anybody want to talk about that new fire emblem crossover game in development? I read that it's supposed to a RPG, how do you think it would turn out, Do you picture being a turn-based or real-time RPG, or do you feel it's actually might be a strategy because its Fire Emblem.
I'm definitely going to get SMTxFE, sounds like an interesting crossover. Don't know how the RPG is going to play, but I'm thinking recruiting might be a big part of the game. It would be really cool if you're able to play as FE villains. That would be a unique twist.
 

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To this day I still would of preferred an Dynasty Warriors x Fire Emblem or Tales x Fire Emblem game, but we'll have to make due.
 

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Well, most likely for the Fire Emblem side you'll start out with the more famous characters of the series, like all of the lords(including Lucina by the trailer) and hopefully some of the other favorite units like Soren or Caeda. For a Fire Emblem villain most likely The Black Knight, he's not even the main-boss and has his own theme.
 

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How exactly is a SMT and FE crossover even supposed to work anyway? They seem worlds apart. SMT is modern post-apocalyptic world with heavy mythological influences... FE is medieval and the 'magic' in the games is actually pretty downplayed even though it's prevalent.

Also, am I wrong for assuming that this game is going to be completely non-canonical to both series? I really just can't see how it could work.

I'm sure I'll check it out when it's released though. :3c
 

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How exactly is a SMT and FE crossover even supposed to work anyway? They seem worlds apart. SMT is modern post-apocalyptic world with heavy mythological influences... FE is medieval and the 'magic' in the games is actually pretty downplayed even though it's prevalent.

Also, am I wrong for assuming that this game is going to be completely non-canonical to both series? I really just can't see how it could work.

I'm sure I'll check it out when it's released though. :3c
Crossovers are almost always non-canon. Also, Fire Emblem has mythological references in the characters' names and some weapons and magics also have mythological references.

Also, FE permadeath + SMT instant kill spells = ?????
 

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No PermaDeaths maybe, it's a crossover and a RPG, so I don't see it being in it, also, if's a turn-based RPG, you most likely have a team, since i know nothing of the other series, I'm going to post a team i might use
1.Ike-Favorite Lord ever
2.Hector-Seems he might be a powerhouse
3.Lucina-best unit in Awakening why not
4.Lyn/Macaiah/Caeda- which of these 3 would you think work the most.
 

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Well, if there is permadeath, I really hope there's a casual mode...Cuz I'd be dying left, right, and centre.

We don't know much about the game, but I guess a team that I'd use would be:

Roy
Lilina
Eliwood
Hector

Epic father and child bonding time! I hope there's going to be supports/Pair Up systems, I guess depending on the type of game.
 

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Do you think we'll see SMT x FE at E3?

I mean the trailer didn't actually show anything; It was just an announcement. It could be just an early reveal like smashbros.
 

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Are only the lords going to be in? If that's the case, then I'd pick Chrom, Lucina, Ike, and either Ephraim or Marth.
 
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