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[BluePikmin11]

I don't think you should give Anna a lance, it seems out of place for Anna's Trickster class, I would rather have her stay true to her class. It's like giving Hector a bow.

Sounds like random objects to me

So can lyn, only better.

Also Levin sword would be a spammy ranged attack, meh.

And rescue doesn't work on the user. It would be weird.

Lol when is this gonna stop?

I could say the same thing about Lyn you know.

 

[XStarWarriorX]

I don't think you should give Anna a lance, it seems out of place for Anna's Trickster class, I would rather have her stay true to her class. It's like giving Hector a bow.


I could say the same thing about Lyn you know.

What exactly would be spammy about her? She'd be a fast glass-cannon. I think that's pretty hype I mean just look at my sig, can anna do that?

 

[Niko Mar]

If anyone should use a lance, its ephraim. (right niko? ) I think lyn has a good chance, sakurai doesn't always cater to the recency route ya know.

Ephraim, why'd you have to get a horse . I always wanted a soldier unit and then you turned into a generic Paladin........Ephraim's horse for Smash, it has Ephraim still strapped to it (hanging by his foot) and uses him to attack .

Spoiler

 

[UltimateWario]

Can I ask why people think Lyn has a chance without getting my head bit off, or is that a tender subject? I'm not trying to be a ****, I just want to know what the argument is.

 

[Robert of Normandy]

Can I ask why people think Lyn has a chance without getting my head bit off, or is that a tender subject?

In no particular order:
1)Being an AT in Brawl
2)Being the first western FE Lord
3) Manly's moveset
4) Vagina
5) Because she's Zero's waifu

 

[XStarWarriorX]

Can I ask why people think Lyn has a chance without getting my head bit off, or is that a tender subject?

She has just a good of a chance as roy, and all the awakening choices. She wasn't an AT for nothing. I mean micaiah got flat out ignored. So her chances aren't as small as most would think, she's gonna be in a smash game either way. so w/e.

 

[BluePikmin11]

What exactly would be spammy about her? She'd be a fast glass-cannon. I think that's pretty hype I mean just look at my sig, can anna do that?

Probably her fast swift Melee attacks that do electrical damage, it would be executed slightly faster than Marth's normal attacks, but her sword is slightly shorter. Her only annoyance special move would be her thunder move, it executes much faster than Pikachu's and her swift fast jumping abilities that are similar to Fox's, only much more horizontal.

 

[jaytalks]

I don't think you should give Anna a lance, it seems out of place for Anna's Trickster class, I would rather have her stay true to her class. It's like giving Hector a bow.


I could say the same thing about Lyn you know.

There are a few ways to get around this. She could class change as one of her moves, effectively making her a stance character. Or, they could use the Anna as a merchant design. Or they could slightly modify her trickster design so that it carries the same principles. but she wouldnt be a trickster.

If anyone should use a lance, its ephraim. (right niko? ) I think lyn has a good chance, sakurai doesn't always cater to the recency route ya know.

Ephraim would be great.
Sakurai doesnt always go the recency route, but the series tends to reflects the previous video game generation. Zelda is good example of this. Melee = OoT and MM, Brawl: TP and WW, SSB4 = TP (Wii Launch title), SS, OoT 3D, and Spirit Tracks.

 

[BluePikmin11]

She has just a good of a chance as roy, and all the awakening choices. She wasn't an AT for nothing. I mean micaiah got flat out ignored. So her chances aren't as small as most would think, she's gonna be in a smash game either way. so w/e.

Micaiah was probably not considered because it was too late for her. Like how we got no SUper Mario Galaxy content in Brawl,despite the fantastic feedback for the game.

 

[XStarWarriorX]

There are a few ways to get around this. She could class change as one of her moves, effectively making her a stance character. Or, they could use the Anna as a merchant design. Or they could slightly modify her trickster design so that it carries the same principles. but she wouldnt be a trickster.

Ephraim would be great.
Sakurai doesnt always go the recency route, but the series tends to reflects the previous video game generation. Zelda is good example of this. Melee = OoT and MM, Brawl: TP and WW, SSB4 = TP (Wii Launch title), SS, OoT 3D, and Spirit Tracks.

TP was originally a GC game, if he wanted recency he would have given link the SS look and TL the recent look instead of WW.
@ BluePikmin11 I'm gonna need a bit more moveset than that.

Two anna supporters are on me when this was a 1 on 1 super.

 

[Niko Mar]

He's not as beautiful as Oliver.

Whenever I think of beautiful, I think of Jasmine and Paul from Rekka no Ken .

 

[BluePikmin11]

Here I'll just copy and paste here, I basically describe her entire move set except the FS and grabs:
Anna's playstyle:
Anna is a quick, nimble character in both speed and in attacking. She can use her Levin Sword in her Smash to temporarily stun the opponent. Her normal attacks and aerial attacks do electrical damage in short range, but are pretty weak, but can stun the opponent enough for her to do a combo. Her jumps are pretty much equal to Fox's, only much more horizontal, so she can easily get away from a situation. With some of her special moves, she has a quick thunder attack that's much faster to execute than Pikachu's, but much weaker, but can stun. She can use the move Rescue to gain a long line of range, another way to get out of a situation or to trick the opponent from time to time. Her Side-B is a quick dash attack (similar to Ike's), is much faster to execute, but has low KO potential. Her Neutral B is an attack (similar to Marth's Neutral, only she spins and it's a multi-hitting attack) that also stuns the opponent longer depending how long you charge. All in all, her playstyle makes use of stun attacks to get away from opponents, being a tricky character to hit once she jumps away. Being able to use her effectively will give the opponent a hard time to attack her.

 

[XStarWarriorX]

Whenever I think of beautiful, I think of Jasmine and Paul from Rekka no Ken .

which gave them the inspiration to do this:

Vincent and Victor=Jasmine and Paul

 

[jaytalks]

She has just a good of a chance as roy, and all the awakening choices. She wasn't an AT for nothing. I mean micaiah got flat out ignored. So her chances aren't as small as most would think, she's gonna be in a smash game either way. so w/e.

I really dont think Roy has too much of a chance, but thats another story. AT status wouldnt give her advantage over the characters created after Brawl.

Micaiah wasnt ignored. Brawl was supposed be released in 2007, the same year that RD was released. There is a reason that Ike reflects his PoR design instead of his RD one.

TP was originally a GC game, if he wanted recency he would have given link the SS look and TL the recent look instead of WW.
@ BluePikmin11 I'm gonna need a bit more moveset than that.

Didnt say recency. I said Smash reflects the previous video game generation.TP was a Wii game and therefore a member of the previous video game generation. TL looks like he did in PH, which is how he looked in WW. PH is from the previous video game generation.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_video_game_consoles_(seventh_generation)

 

[UltimateWario]

TP was originally a GC game, if he wanted recency he would have given link the SS look and TL the recent look instead of WW.

Toon Link and LBW Link are not the same character, and Toon Link is more popular (because LBW came out like last month). That's why Toon Link isn't LBW Link.

If TP is a Wii game, then WW is also a WiiU game, which means that Toon Link is up to date.

 

[Niko Mar]

Lol we should just have a Fire Emblem fighting game (quick, let's kidnap Sakurai!)............or a kart racer .

 

[jaytalks]

Lol we should just have a Fire Emblem fighting game (quick, let's kidnap Sakurai!)............or a kart racer .

wouldnt it be a horse racer?

Toon Link and LBW Link are not the same character, and Toon Link is more popular (because LBW came out like last month). That's why Toon Link isn't LBW Link.

If TP is a Wii game, then WW is also a WiiU game, which means that Toon Link is up to date.

WW Link is the protagonist of Phantom Hourglass, a previous generation game.

 

[BluePikmin11]

Fire Emblem Horseback racing, who agrees with me?

 

[XStarWarriorX]

Here I'll just copy and paste here, I basically describe her entire move set except the FS and grabs:
Anna's playstyle:
Anna is a quick, nimble character in both speed and in attacking. She can use her Levin Sword in her Smash to temporarily stun the opponent. Her normal attacks and aerial attacks do electrical damage in short range, but are pretty weak, but can stun the opponent enough for her to do a combo. Her jumps are pretty much equal to Fox's, only much more horizontal, so she can easily get away from a situation. With some of her special moves, she has a quick thunder attack that's much faster to execute than Pikachu's, but much weaker, but can stun. She can use the move Rescue to gain a long line of range, another way to get out of a situation or to trick the opponent from time to time. Her Side-B is a quick dash attack (similar to Ike's), is much faster to execute, but has low KO potential. Her Neutral B is an attack (similar to Marth's Neutral, only she spins and it's a multi-hitting attack) that also stuns the opponent longer depending how long you charge. All in all, her playstyle makes use of stun attacks to get away from opponents, being a tricky character to hit once she jumps away. Being able to use her effectively will give the opponent a hard time to attack her.

So another ZZS? nty. Also again rescue doesn't work on the user.

Toon Link and LBW Link are not the same character, and Toon Link is more popular (because LBW came out like last month). That's why Toon Link isn't LBW Link.

If TP is a Wii game, then WW is also a WiiU game, which means that Toon Link is up to date.

I didn't say ALBW link. TL would have still been chosen even if he didn't get a remake.

I really dont think Roy has too much of a chance, but thats another story. AT status wouldnt give her advantage over the characters created after Brawl.

In the end these are all opinions, sakurai will choose whoever he likes. imo The only chance an awakening character happens is if IS tells him to, not because sakurai wanted to add one.

I'd also like to know why roy doesn't have much of a chance.

 

[BluePikmin11]

Well it's the closest thing to transportation with a staff. How bout a very quick spin attack that's similar to Link's.

 

[OcarinaOfDoom]

So I'm seeing stuff being thrown out and I will just say: Lyn has around a 10-20% chance imo. This is from someone who's most wanted character is Lyn. Granted I don't think Robin or Lucina have a big lead (maybe like 2-5% eachish). If I had to give percents...
Roy and Chrom make up around 60%
Lyn makes up around 10%
Robin/Lucina make up around 25%
Anna makes up the remaining 5%

 

[jaytalks]

So another ZZS? nty. Also again rescue doesn't work on the user.


I didn't say ALBW link. TL would have still been chosen even if he didn't get a remake.

In the end these are all opinions, sakurai will choose whoever he likes. imo The only chance an awakening character happens is if IS tells him to not because sakurai wanted to add one.

I'd also like to know why roy doesn't have much of a chance.

smash isnt canon, it can be modified how they want. Mario needs a fire flower before using a fireball. Adult Link in Melee shouldnt be using boomerangs.

That thing about an Awakening character doesnt really make sense. He consults IS for FE related stuff. With that type of attitude, that should apply to any FE newcomer.

Well, relative to an FE newcomer from the previous generation in the case of Roy. I think the only thing Roy has going for him is popularity, but there is no way for Sakurai to objectively measure that, so I'm not sure how much that could affect him. I dont know of any remake in development, and if were to be released, it would be doubtful it would be released prior to SSB4. In terms of uniqueness, he doesnt stand above other newcomers in any major way, not to say he cant be unique, but its not really something that works in his favor as opposed to someone like Robin. Within the FE fanbase, his popularity is lower internationally due to the fact his game was never released in the US, so only a small fraction of the US FE fanbase have ever played his game. His status as a member of the forbidden 7 would not aid him against any character created after Brawl.

I wouldnt say he has no chance, but Smashboards is quite the bubble, and the hardcore of the hardcore smashers, so its not really reflective of the overall Smash fanbase. He has a very low chance relative to the Awakening reps I would say. He's a smart choice for DLC characters though, and I think that he has a good chance if there are DLC characters.

So I'm seeing stuff being thrown out and I will just say: Lyn has around a 10-20% chance imo. This is from someone who's most wanted character is Lyn. Granted I don't think Robin or Lucina have a big lead (maybe like 2-5% eachish). If I had to give percents...
Roy and Chrom make up around 60%
Lyn makes up around 10%
Robin/Lucina make up around 25%
Anna makes up the remaining 5%

There should be room for the chance of no rep.

 

[Robert of Normandy]

Whenever I think of beautiful, I think of Jasmine and Paul from Rekka no Ken .

which gave them the inspiration to do this:

Spoiler

Vincent and Victor=Jasmine and Paul

"Maggie, my dear, it seems some people are discussing Jasmine and Paul."
"Yes Rose, you are most correct."
"It seems they've neglected to mention that we preceded those copycats."
"Bless my soul, Rose, I believe you are correct."
"We should correct them, shouldn't we Maggie?"
"How would we go about doing so, Rose?"
"We should inform them of their mistake by bashing their heads in!"
"Of course, my dear Rose."
"Well then, Maggie, shall we be off?"
"Why certainly, my dear Rose."

 

[Niko Mar]

wouldnt it be a horse racer?

Only if the horses have go-kart physics .

Fire Emblem Horseback racing, who agrees with me?

Make it like All Stars Transformed and they hop on wyverns, pegasi, and griffins for flying sections .


Btw, anyone else experience the board mini-crash?

 

[xXIke-SamaXx]

Fire Emblem Horseback racing, who agrees with me?

With horseback combat, where you choose the classes that rides the horse, everyone get a unique a ability and ultimate ability....

 

[Robert of Normandy]

Fire Emblem Horseback racing, who agrees with me?

Only if Doga still doesn't get a horse

 

[XStarWarriorX]

Well it's the closest thing to transportation with a staff. How bout a very quick spin attack that's similar to Link's.

Maybe, though you should at least have some thing involving gold, since she's a goldidgger might as well make her character moveset funny.

"Maggie, my dear, it seems some people are discussing Jasmine and Paul."
"Yes Rose, you are most correct."
"It seems they've neglected to mention that we preceded those copycats."
"Bless my soul, Rose, I believe you are correct."
"We should correct them, shouldn't we Maggie?"
"How would we go about doing so, Rose?"
"We should inform them of their mistake by bashing their heads in!"
"Of course, my dear Rose."
"Well then, Maggie, shall we be off?"
"Why certainly, my dear Rose."

Forgot about them, silly me.

 

[Niko Mar]

"Maggie, my dear, it seems some people are discussing Jasmine and Paul."
"Yes Rose, you are most correct."
"It seems they've neglected to mention that we preceded those copycats."
"Bless my soul, Rose, I believe you are correct."
"We should correct them, shouldn't we Maggie?"
"How would we go about doing so, Rose?"
"We should inform them of their mistake by bashing their heads in!"
"Of course, my dear Rose."
"Well then, Maggie, shall we be off?"
"Why certainly, my dear Rose."

Objection!.............................................................................Rekka no Ken is a prequel .

 

[xXIke-SamaXx]

With horseback combat, where you choose the classes that rides the horse, everyone get a unique a ability and ultimate ability....

To add on the idea, what if it was an open world racing game where actually finding the track is part of your job and you get choose anyway possible to reach the goal, you can even fight others to stop from getting to the finish line,,,,to many possibilities WE NEED TO MAKE THIS GAME !

 

[BluePikmin11]

Just make her taunts involve gold, I think the gold kinda interferes with her move set.

 

[Niko Mar]

To add on the idea, what if it was an open world racing game where actually finding the track is part of your job and you get choose anyway possible to reach the goal, you can even fight others to stop from getting to the finish line,,,,to many possibilities WE NEED TO MAKE THIS GAME !

So like Midnight Club? Race to the start to get street cred .

 

[xXIke-SamaXx]

So like Midnight Club? Race to the start to get street cred .

Not much of racing game fan, my favorite racing game is F-Zero X xD!

 

[OcarinaOfDoom]

There should be room for the chance of no rep.

Honestly that's like a 1-2.5% chance thing imo. It just seems so low that it makes more sense to put it towards other characters.

 

[XStarWarriorX]

smash isnt canon, it can be modified how they want. Mario needs a fire flower before using a fireball. Adult Link in Melee shouldnt be using boomerangs.

That thing about an Awakening character doesnt really make sense. He consults IS for FE related stuff. With that type of attitude, that should apply to any FE newcomer.

Well, relative to an FE newcomer from the previous generation in the case of Roy. I think the only thing Roy has going for him is popularity, but there is no way for Sakurai to objectively measure that, so I'm not sure how much that could affect him. I dont know of any remake in development, and if were to be released, it would be doubtful it would be released prior to SSB4. In terms of uniqueness, he doesnt stand above other newcomers in any major way, not to say he cant be unique, but its not really something that works in his favor as opposed to someone like Robin. Within the FE fanbase, his popularity is lower internationally due to the fact his game was never released in the US, so only a small fraction of the US FE fanbase have ever played his game. His status as a member of the forbidden 7 would not aid him against any character created after Brawl.

I wouldnt say he has no chance, but Smashboards is quite the bubble, and the hardcore of the hardcore smashers, so its not really reflective of the overall Smash fanbase. He has a very low chance relative to the Awakening reps I would say. He's a smart choice for DLC characters though, and I think that he has a good chance if there are DLC characters.


There should be room for the chance of no rep.

Then lets give mario Link's master sword. Smash isn't canon but they still have to be true to the character somewhat.

Roy could easily have fire projectiles just like robin would cast a fire spell. I see your well fond of anna though so there's no point in going back and forth any further. We shall see what happens in march-April.

 

[xXIke-SamaXx]

I think a nameless tactician with the hood on is much more cooler then Robin!

 

[Robert of Normandy]

Objection!.............................................................................Rekka no Ken is a prequel .

"My dear Maggie, it looks like somebody didn't learn their lesson."
"Tsk tsk. We should teach them a lesson, my dear Rose."
"But how will we do that, Maggie? We've already bashed his head in....."
"My dear Rose, I have an idea. Why don't we chop him into pieces with our axes?"
"That's a wonderful idea, Maggie."
"Of course, my dear Rose."
"Well then, Maggie, shall we be off?"
"Why certainly, my dear Rose."

 

[Niko Mar]

"My dear Maggie, it looks like somebody didn't learn their lesson."
"Tsk tsk. We should teach them a lesson, my dear Rose."
"But how will we do that, Maggie? We've already bashed his head in....."
"My dear Rose, I have an idea. Why don't we chop him into pieces with our axes?"
"That's a wonderful idea, Maggie."
"Of course, my dear Rose."
"Well then, Maggie, shall we be off?"
"Why certainly, my dear Rose."

I imagine that playing out like this

 

[jaytalks]

Then lets give mario Link's master sword. Smash isn't canon but they still have to be true to the character somewhat.

Roy could easily have fire projectiles just like robin would cast a fire spell. I see your well fond of anna though so there's no point in going back and forth any further. We shall see what happens in march-April.

Anna use stalves in Awakening. She can use rescue, and warp has previously been used in FE. You are just slightly modifying the properties of Warp so that it can affect the user. I would have her warp like Zelda, rather than a switching mechanic. It's still very true to the character.

His uniqueness is not a major advantage. That was my point. Not that he couldnt be unique. I think that would be a great move.

I would say Anna's chances are below Roy I just like the character and I view her as representing the entirety of FE. I dont expect to see Anna, I just think if you think she just throws objects as her moveset then you are clearly wrong about her potential.

Maybe, though you should at least have some thing involving gold, since she's a goldidgger might as well make her character moveset funny.

I have her use steal in my moveset, so she steals money from various series (Zelda = Rupee, Mario = Coin, DK = Banana,etc)

I think a nameless tactician with the hood on is much more cooler then Robin!

I would perfectly okay with the tactician as the character name, as I believe that the tactician class (as well as the avatar role) will be in FE moving forward.

Honestly that's like a 1-2.5% chance thing imo. It just seems so low that it makes more sense to put it towards other characters.

There's also a chance of dual character. I wouldnt rule out FE getting no new rep as none of the FE newcomers are really essential to the series.

 

[XStarWarriorX]

Anna use stalves in Awakening. She can use rescue, and warp has previously been used in FE. You are just slightly modifying the properties of Warp so that it can affect the user. I would have her warp like Zelda, rather than a switching mechanic. It's still very true to the character.

His uniqueness is not a major advantage. That was my point. Not that he couldnt be unique. I think that would be a great move.

I would say Anna's chances are below Roy I just like the character and I view her as representing the entirety of FE. I dont expect to see Anna, I just think if you think she just throws objects as her moveset then you are clearly wrong about her potential.





I would perfectly okay with the tactician as the character name, as I believe that the tactician class (as well as the avatar role) will be in FE moving forward.


There's also a chance of dual character. I wouldnt rule out FE getting no rep as none of the FE newcomers are really essential to the series.

I have her use steal in my moveset, so she steals money from various series (Zelda = Rupee, Mario = Coin, DK = Banana,etc)

.

That's a pretty good B move, so its a start.

I don't see what's exciting about using a levin sword.(Blue's moveset) Zelda already has a warp recovery, it wouldn't be anything new playstyle wise imo. She sounds like a ZZS with a stun sword with zelda's recovery. But again its best that we stop this and just talk about something else....

 

[Robert of Normandy]

You know what? **** main character duos. Maggie/Rose duo for Smash 4.