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[xXIke-SamaXx]

My theory is that Ike actually is an ancestor of Chrom and Lucina, the fact Aether is only inheritable by female, then let suppose that Ike had 2 children a male and a female the female married from marth bloodline and she is the ancestor of Chrom and Lucina and she inherited Aether from her father while the son of Ike inherited his wardrobe and the Ragnell and he became the ancestor of Priam. it's an outrageous theory but I like it alot.

 

[UltimateWario]

So Ike traveled across dimensions to bang chicks? :U

 

[Hong]

My theory is that Ike actually is an ancestor of Chrom and Lucina, the fact Aether is only inheritable by female, then let suppose that Ike had 2 children a male and a female the female married from marth bloodline and she is the ancestor of Chrom and Lucina and she inherited Aether from her father while the son of Ike inherited his wardrobe and the Ragnell and he became the ancestor of Priam. it's an outrageous theory but I like it alot.

Where does Marth fit into this? He is the ancestor of Chrom and Lucina, after all.

If the events of Tellius and Akaneia are connected, it would make the most sense if the great flood and the war between the Goddesses came way before the war between Altea and Doluna. If Marth came a thousand years before Chrom, who knows how far down the line we would have to go to connect Ike and Marth. I would imagine that somewhere between Anri and Marth, Ike would be mentioned, so it could mean that we could be looking at two-millenia-long train of blue blood before we can make heads or tails of this.

 

[xXIke-SamaXx]

Where does Marth fit into this? He is the ancestor of Chrom and Lucina, after all.

If the events of Tellius and Akaneia are connected, it would make the most sense if the great flood and the war between the Goddesses came way before the war between Altea and Doluna. If Marth came a thousand years before Chrom, who knows how far down the line we would have to go to connect Ike and Marth. I would imagine that somewhere between Anri and Marth, Ike would be mentioned, so it could mean that we could be looking at two-millenia-long train of blue blood before we can make heads or tails of this.

Marth is an ancestor of the First Exalt, let's say Ike daughter or descendant is the wife of the first exalt...and there is no official timeline that connects the games.

 

[Pega-pony Princess]

So Ike traveled across dimensions to bang chicks? :U

Or Soren. :/

Some fans of the Ike x Soren pairing think it was Mist who continued the bloodline of Griel. Which, if you think about it, is somewhat difficult to believe. Unless Mist's kid decided to follow his dear Uncle or something.

Ugh. I'm rambling. Sorry.

 

[xXIke-SamaXx]

Or Soren. :/

Some fans of the Ike x Soren pairing think it was Mist who continued the bloodline of Griel. Which, if you think about it, is somewhat difficult to believe. Unless Mist's kid decided to follow his dear Uncle or something.

Ugh. I'm rambling. Sorry.

It's impossible that what happened....the relationship between Ike and Soren was friendship nothing more....

 

[loganhogan]

Soren and Ike's friendship was one that had lots of benefits . Ranulf was Ike's true love.

 

[xXIke-SamaXx]

Soren and Ike's friendship was one that had lots of benefits . Ranulf was Ike's true love.

The topic makes me a little angry because I like Ike character and I don't take these jokes lightly...

 

[Hong]

I like IkexSoren because I like Ike and Soren. I encourage it.

 

[loganhogan]

I think Ike being gay makes him cooler and more unique, but i'm very gay friendly I guess.

 

[xXIke-SamaXx]

I like IkexSoren because I like Ike and Soren. I encourage it.

Hong dont make me hate you ....I was starting to like you

 

[Robert of Normandy]

IkexMia OTP *shot*

 

[xXIke-SamaXx]

I think Ike being gay makes him cooler and more unique, but i'm very gay friendly I guess.

I'm not gay friendly ,I really don't want to delve in such topic please change of topic, this topic usually gets me banned from forums.

 

[FlareHabanero]

This all reminds me of the fan **** theory that Soren was implemented as the wrong gender, but wasn't changed, hence why the questionable relationships.

 

[Robert of Normandy]

Hong dont make me hate you ....I was starting to like you

 

[loganhogan]

I'm not gay friendly ,I really don't want to delve in such topic please change of topic, this topic usually gets me banned from forums.

Don't worry we can bury this topic starting now to avoid any trouble.

 

[xXIke-SamaXx]

BTW did anyone read my Fire Emblem army Idea ? check it out I think it's interesting.

 

[XStarWarriorX]

IkeXOscar

No seriously, IkeXElincia was the one that made the most sense imo.

 

[jaytalks]

What kind of fighting mechanic would the partners have in a hypothetical FE duo? We do have a couple of team fighters in Smash, and technically, with the addition of Rosalina, we're introduced to a new duo fighting mechanic via the Lumas. I'd prefer something fresh... something that hasn't been done before. Any ideas?

I would make them akin to Ice Climbers, except with the ability to switch. Dual attacks would be reserved to Smash Attacks (akin to Link's double flick smash attack) and a few other moves. They could also be KO'd like the Ice Climbers, making it impossible to switch if that happens.

So, not sure if this has been mentioned, but I think the end of Awakening may be implying Lucina's inclusion in SSB4. During the endgame when they give all the characters a future for Lucina it says: "Lucina disappeared after whispering these words to her infant self: "Yours will be a happy future." Did she journey to another land or back to her own time? ...No one knows for certain."
It makes sense, does it not? Her own future of destruction is undone, therefore would have no place in the new, peaceful future. And considering she's a time-travel paradox herself, traveling to the non-canonical Smash Universe makes sense.
They did a similar thing for Ike at the end of Radiant Dawn, his ending was something along the lines of "He was never seen again."

Ike was following the Mercenary archetype in FE series. Most FE mercenaries have that ending, provided they arent paired. Ogma, Raven, Gerik, Ike, etc. Lucina's ending could be the same. So it has nothing to do with Smash.

I always thought it would work as a backdoor for an Awakening Sequel, or something they could use for SMT x FE. But an FE character disappearing in their ending is very normal.

Eh, enough Awakening talk. Anyone wanna weigh in on Lyn's chances?

I think she's unlikely but I would love her inclusion.

 

[Robert of Normandy]

No seriously, IkeXElincia was the one.

Still in denial over RD huh?

Also, I heard somewhere that NoA added IkexElincia hints in PoR. No idea if that's true or not, though that would explain its sinking in RD.

 

[xXIke-SamaXx]

Still in denial over RD huh?

Also, I heard somewhere that NoA added IkexElincia hints in PoR. No idea if that's true or not, though that would explain its sinking in RD.

They actually could never be together, Ike wants different things and he Elincia wanted to look after her people, the love might be there but the situation doesn't help...it's like a tragic love story

 

[jaytalks]

Still in denial over RD huh?

Also, I heard somewhere that NoA added IkexElincia hints in PoR. No idea if that's true or not, though that would explain its sinking in RD.

I think RD they made Ike follow the Mercenary archetype from previous FE games more (which makes sense since he starts as a hero). That's why he ended up on a different path than IkexElincia.

BTW did anyone read my Fire Emblem army Idea ? check it out I think it's interesting.

Your idea is similar to something else someone floated on the Robin thread. I came up with a moveset like that but I used Awakening characters.

 

[BluePikmin11]

Eh, enough Awakening talk. Anyone wanna weigh in on Lyn's chances?

I think being the first FE North American Lord doesn't really help her chances as most people assume. I honestly think she's pretty unlikely.

 

[xXIke-SamaXx]

I think RD they made Ike follow the Mercenary archetype from previous FE games more (which makes sense since he starts as a hero). That's why he ended up on a different path than IkexElincia.


Your idea is similar to something else someone floated on the Robin thread. I came up with a moveset like that but I used Awakening character.

I think it would fit the awkening cast everyone wants those characters and you can change the Lord pallete Chrom and Lucina.

 

[jaytalks]

here's a link to the archetype thing I was talking about:
http://fireemblem.wikia.com/wiki/Archetype
Here's the part on the Ogma archetype (Mercenary):
Ogma
Ogma was a Mercenary that had high, generally balanced starting stats. An Ogma generally has slightly above average stat growths, making them good units all around. Lore wise, they tend to be either mercenary leaders, or, in the case that there is no group of mercenaries involved, a mercenary who joins the player army on their own. In the case of the former, all of the mercenary leaders are shown as heavily muscled men with scarred faces (with the exception of Ike). Some of them vanish without a trace after the war is over.

Notable Ogmas are:

• Ogma (FE1/3/11/12)
• Savor (FE2, Celica's Route)
• Holyn (FE4)
• Felgus (FE5)
• Dieck (FE6)
• Raven (FE7)
• Gerik (FE8)
• Ike (FE10)
• Gregor (FE13)

A lot of people already know this stuff, but I find it very interesting.

I think it would fit the awkening cast everyone wants those characters and you can change the Lord pallete Chrom and Lucina.

I don't think it's likely, but I think that type of thing would be cool. The tactician being in the background is interesting, but I would prefer them battling as opposed to the lord. I left the lords out in my moveset because I'd rather focus on the foot soldiers for this type of character.

Shinhed-echi came up with the idea and I followed up on.

The character specials could be summoned by a warp spell, while the default attacks could use both the sword and magic.
Jaytalks Robin as a Tactician and an ARmy moveset:
Neutral: Fire magic: Miriel warps and uses wind magic as a projectile.
Side: Axe Attack: The Valke appears and throws a hand axe with an arc.
Up: Lance Attack: Sumia appears out of nowhere and Robin gets on her pegasus along with her to use as a recovery.
Down: Dark Magic: Henry does a Flux spell.

Smash attacks:
Up: Manakete Attack: Tiki fire blasts up.
Forward: Knight strike: Frederick does a lance strike.
Down: Double Kick: Panne unleashes a double kick low on both sides of Robin

Final Smash: Shepherd of Ylisse
I originally made this for Chrom but it actually works better for Robin:
Starts with all the horse riding units attacking at once (Sully, Frederick, and Stahl) along with Panne.
And then the flyers (Cherche, Sumia, Cordelia) , (bonus, it's a triangle attack)
Then the mages (Miriel, Ricken, Henry, and Tharja) (Lissa and Maribelle appear but just assist the others)
Then swords, axe, bow, and lance users (Lonqu, Gaius, Vaike, Donnel, Virion)
And finally Tiki and Nowi appear for the final knock out blow.




Kellam appears Behring Tiki and Nowi, ready to strike. He's revealed after they transform back. Then the move ends.

 

[XStarWarriorX]

I think being the first FE North American Lord doesn't really help her chances as most people assume. I honestly think she's pretty unlikely.

Why was she an assist trophy then? and anna was no where to be found? :3

inb4 shin says omg waifu battle.....

 

[xXIke-SamaXx]

here's a link to the archetype thing I was talking about:
http://fireemblem.wikia.com/wiki/Archetype
Here's the part on the Ogma archetype (Mercenary):
Ogma
Ogma was a Mercenary that had high, generally balanced starting stats. An Ogma generally has slightly above average stat growths, making them good units all around. Lore wise, they tend to be either mercenary leaders, or, in the case that there is no group of mercenaries involved, a mercenary who joins the player army on their own. In the case of the former, all of the mercenary leaders are shown as heavily muscled men with scarred faces (with the exception of Ike). Some of them vanish without a trace after the war is over.

Notable Ogmas are:

• Ogma (FE1/3/11/12)
• Savor (FE2, Celica's Route)
• Holyn (FE4)
• Felgus (FE5)
• Dieck (FE6)
• Raven (FE7)
• Gerik (FE8)
• Ike (FE10)
• Gregor (FE13)

A lot of people already know this stuff, but I find it very interesting.

I don't think it's likely, but I think that type of thing would be cool. The tactician being in the background is interesting, but I would prefer them battling as opposed to the lord. I left the lords out in my moveset because I'd rather focus on the foot soldiers for this type of character.

Shinhed-echi came up with the idea and I followed up on.

The character specials could be summoned by a warp spell, while the default attacks could use both the sword and magic.
Jaytalks Robin as a Tactician and an ARmy moveset:
Neutral: Fire magic: Miriel warps and uses wind magic as a projectile.
Side: Axe Attack: The Valke appears and throws a hand axe with an arc.
Up: Lance Attack: Sumia appears out of nowhere and Robin gets on her pegasus along with her to use as a recovery.
Down: Dark Magic: Henry does a Flux spell.

Smash attacks:
Up: Manakete Attack: Tiki fire blasts up.
Forward: Knight strike: Frederick does a lance strike.
Down: Double Kick: Panne unleashes a double kick low on both sides of Robin

Final Smash: Shepherd of Ylisse
I originally made this for Chrom but it actually works better for Robin:
Starts with all the horse riding units attacking at once (Sully, Frederick, and Stahl) along with Panne.
And then the flyers (Cherche, Sumia, Cordelia) , (bonus, it's a triangle attack)
Then the mages (Miriel, Ricken, Henry, and Tharja) (Lissa and Maribelle appear but just assist the others)
Then swords, axe, bow, and lance users (Lonqu, Gaius, Vaike, Donnel, Virion)
And finally Tiki and Nowi appear for the final knock out blow.




Kellam appears Behring Tiki and Nowi, ready to strike. He's revealed after they transform back. Then the move ends.

What if all the characters are in the background and they jump to fight once you do the move corresponding to them...

 

[Robert of Normandy]

inb4 shin says omg waifu battle.....

DID SOMEBODY SAY WAIFU BATTLE?

 

[BluePikmin11]

Anna wasn't prominent in FE games before FE:A happened.
I don't think being an AT benefits Lyn's inclusion in my opinion.
Unless by some miracle she has a prominent role (maybe in the SMT crossover).

 

[XStarWarriorX]

Anna wasn't prominent in FE games before FE:A happened.
I don't think being an AT benefits Lyn's inclusion in my opinion.
Unless by some miracle she has a prominent role (maybe in the SMT crossover).

Then looks like little mac has no chance then.

I think she was strongly considered only to be bested by Ike.

Anna has no prominent role, only to be an annoying merchant that shows up everywhere. Marth is the face of FE not anna.

 

[Niko Mar]

I predict Gonzalez, I mean just look at how beautiful he is

Spoiler

Spoiler

 

[BluePikmin11]

The revival of Punch-Out probably benefited Little Mac more to be in the SSB4 roster.
But being an AT is not going to be solely the only reason to add Lyn.

 

[XStarWarriorX]

The revival of Punch-Out probably benefited Little Mac more to be in the SSB4 roster.
But being an AT is not going to be solely the only reason to add Lyn.

People are banking on Issac, yet he didn't have a "revival". Since most characters are being ported from brawl and then getting reworked, I'd say they would take a look at her again and probably give her a flashy vergil-esque playstyle. Since there's no clear cut frontrunner for FE sakurai could easily take her AT model and just roll with it (I assume starfy was considered until rosalina happened). Unless he brings back roy. Or if IS steps in again.

Anyway all anna offers is the same thing the villager does. Attacking with random objects.

 

[BluePikmin11]

No? Anna can offer swift agility, a Levin Sword that summons thunder, and her Rescue staff. She doesn't use just random objects.

 

[XStarWarriorX]

No? Anna can offer swift agility, a Levin Sword that summons thunder, and her Rescue staff. She doesn't use just random objects.

Sounds like random objects to me

So can lyn, only better.

Also Levin sword would be a spammy ranged attack, meh.

And rescue doesn't work on the user. It would be weird.

Lol when is this gonna stop?

 

[jaytalks]

What if all the characters are in the background and they jump to fight once you do the move corresponding to them...

That's a bit much. That would be very hard to have that many objects on screen for the 3DS. I prefer them coming on screen ala a warp spell.

People are banking on Issac, yet he didn't have a "revival". Since most characters are being ported from brawl and then getting reworked, I'd say they would take a look at her again and probably give her a flashy vergil-esque playstyle. Since there's no clear cut frontrunner for FE sakurai could easily take her AT model and just roll with it (I assume starfy was considered until rosalina happened). Unless he brings back roy. Or if IS steps in again.

Anyway all anna offers is the same thing the villager does. Attacking with random objects.

Even if she were to use here Awakening model, she would have a variety of different attacks, as Blue Pikmin has said. But she also attack with other weapons in Awakening when she is in her merchant class, so that also includes lances.

Isaac has a series that has been continued with Dark Dawn. The character himself doesnt need a revival because the series appears to going the generational route like FE. Dark Dawn came out in 2010.

 

[Niko Mar]

Sounds like random objects to me

So can lyn, only better.

Also Levin sword would be a spammy ranged attack, meh.

And rescue doesn't work on the user. It would be weird.

Lol when is this gonna stop?

Gonzalez would bring a lot more to the table than either of them .

 

[XStarWarriorX]

Gonzalez would bring a lot more to the table than either of them .

I prefer this guy.

 

[Robert of Normandy]

I predict Gonzalez, I mean just look at how beautiful he is

Spoiler

Spoiler

He's not as beautiful as Oliver.

 

[XStarWarriorX]

Even if she were to use here Awakening model, she would have a variety of different attacks, as Blue Pikmin has said. But she also attack with other weapons in Awakening when she is in her merchant class, so that also includes lances.

If anyone should use a lance, its ephraim. (right niko? ) I think lyn has a good chance, sakurai doesn't always cater to the recency route ya know.