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[Deleted member]

Strong dislike?

Nothing against the moveset, it's just that I hate tag-team sort of deals. RosLuma is better because Luma seems more like a helpful summon than a part of a team. Plus, it rings of being short-changed. Two-half characters in one? Eh ...

 

[jaytalks]

So, I was thinking about a Chrom & Robin slot, a sort of gameplay mix between PKMN Trainer, Sheilda and Rosalina, representing Awakening's most important characters and main feature (double characters battling) at the same time :

- While you're controlling Chrom, Robin follow him on the battlefield, a bit like PKMN Trainer who follows his Pokémons, but does not count as a second character ala Ice Climber.
- Some of Chrom's and Robin's attacks work with both characters.
- You could alternate between Chrom and Robin like for Zelda & Sheik.
- Chrom is more sword-oriented, while Robin is more magic-oriented.
- When Chrom is KO'd, the player lose one life, and Robin takes over without Chrom.
- Then, some of his/her attacks doesn't work as well as when he/she is accompanied by Chrom.
- The player could re-have both Chrom and Robin after he gets KO'd a second time.
- Finally, Chrom works with Female Robin, while Lucina and Male Robin could be an alt for this slot.

And that's it for my idea for Chrom & Robin slot.

You thoughts on it ?

EDIT : Instead of the specificities I've striked, I suggest, like for the PKMN Trainer, Robin takes over Chrom when he's KO'd, and reappears on the background.

http://smashboards.com/threads/chrom-and-robin-the-shepherds-of-ylisse-awaken-for-ssb4.340775

I'm all for it. I would have them both on the screen at the same time, like when they pair up, but they only double strike with key moves like smash attacks and counters. They can switch off like Zelda/Sheik.

 

[Ultinarok]

I still feel like asking for Marth, Roy, Ike and Chrom all in the same game (Lyn would be ok to replace one of those too) isn't too much, especially because having a four-way free-for-all between lords would be awesome.

Marth: fastest of the swordsman. Has the weakest attacks if he doesn't space correctly, but is deadly if he tips his sword. Best aerial game of the four due to consistency and very speedy attacks. Has all-around fast attacks with good priority, but some of the worst all-around range of the four (which both hurts him and helps his spacing game).

Roy: slower than Marth but second fastest. Is a fast-faller, but makes up for it by having VERY powerful sweetspot aerials that are only landed near the hilt...so while Marth must space, Roy must get in close. Has better all-around movement to aid this including air speed and walking speed. Similar to project M in moveset.

Chrom: faster attacker than Ike, but slower than Marth and Roy. Has the greatest range of the swordsman, but moderate power throughout his sword with no definitive sweetspot. Average recovery and excellent ground game, but subpar aerial game.

Ike: most powerful by far, like in Brawl. Slow, laggy attacks, but extreme power and disjointed hitboxes throughout. Has sweetspots that occur near the end of every attack animation that grant him more power...so while no one part of his sword would sweetspot, the last frames of his moves would be much stronger. All moves are basically KO moves, but slow, like in Brawl.

 

[Ultinarok]

Sorry double post.

 

[Hong]

I don't want the developer to add characters just for the sake of having that character in the game. I love Fire Emblem more than any currently-running Nintendo series, but there is no way I can justify the idea of the developers putting in that much time into planning, designing, testing and balancing four swordsmen from a series that CAN offer so many possibilities. Since Marth is well designed and I can't see them screwing him up, I would be content if they focused on seeing if they can even adequately design at least one more Fire Emblem character.

Whether that means bringing back Roy or Ike, or a new face like Anna, Tiki, Lyn (playable), Robin or whatever, I want them to do it well. Nintendo should choose characters based on who offers the best gameplay. After that criteria is fulfilled, then they can think about distribution of representation. Don't forget that there are a few fine choices for swordsmen outside of Fire Emblem.

If Roy does come back, I would hope his qualities reflect his character. He should be light and about average in speed, but have fire-based attacks. Whether it is flinging fire across the stage or creating waves of fire, there is a lot of potential for a character with lots of space control.

Ike, on the other hand, was an absolute disaster in Brawl. Project M represents how he fights perfectly, while still filling in a distinct niche of gameplay.

While Chrom and Ike can both be uniquely designed characters, unless Chrom is coming paired with Lucina or Robin, I would prefer if it was either just Ike or just Chrom, and not both. I know I'll get flack for that, but I personally feel focusing more on quality over quantity will make for a better experience.

 

[xXIke-SamaXx]

I don't want the developer to add characters just for the sake of having that character in the game. I love Fire Emblem more than any currently-running Nintendo series, but there is no way I can justify the idea of the developers putting in that much time into planning, designing, testing and balancing four swordsmen from a series that CAN offer so many possibilities. Since Marth is well designed and I can't see them screwing him up, I would be content if they focused on seeing if they can even adequately design at least one more Fire Emblem character.

Whether that means bringing back Roy or Ike, or a new face like Anna, Tiki, Lyn (playable), Robin or whatever, I want them to do it well. Nintendo should choose characters based on who offers the best gameplay. After that criteria is fulfilled, then they can think about distribution of representation. Don't forget that there are a few fine choices for swordsmen outside of Fire Emblem.

If Roy does come back, I would hope his qualities reflect his character. He should be light and about average in speed, but have fire-based attacks. Whether it is flinging fire across the stage or creating waves of fire, there is a lot of potential for a character with lots of space control.

Ike, on the other hand, was an absolute disaster in Brawl. Project M represents how he fights perfectly, while still filling in a distinct niche of gameplay.

While Chrom and Ike can both be uniquely designed characters, unless Chrom is coming paired with Lucina or Robin, I would prefer if it was either just Ike or just Chrom, and not both. I know I'll get flack for that, but I personally feel focusing more on quality over quantity will make for a better experience.

The battle isn't between a Ike and Chrom it's between Roy and Chrom.

 

[UltimateWario]

So, besides being a Melee veteran, what does Roy have going for him? His last (and only) game came out just after Melee, his legacy (as with all past lords) is nonexistent, and really, he's no more interesting than Eliwood or Alm or anyone else. The only reason I can think of that anyone would want him back is because he was in Melee.

Also, I don't see Ike coming back, either. He's not in style anymore. Awakening sold like ****ing HOTCAKES, and Chrom was vastly more interesting than Ike anyway, so really, again, the only reason he would come back was because he was in Brawl.

How about, instead of four boring swordsmen, we have people that are actually interesting? Fire Emblem games (Awakening especially) have amazing supporting casts, but the rule of importance seems to be the biggest thorn in Fire Emblem's side. The Lords are always among the least-interesting characters in the games because they have to be basically good characters. They can't be overly emotional or weird because they have to be great leaders, so we end up with Marth, darker-blue-haired Marth with a club, red-haired Marth, and so-on. Chrom at least had an emotional breakdown when he saw his sister die in front of him, but grew to be a powerful and just king because of it. I can't remember a damn thing interesting about Marth from Shadow Dragon, or Roy from Seals, either.

SO. Since we're stuck with Marth, I say we put our balls on the table and put in Chrom & Robin as a team. Not only is it not a boring swordsman, it's a double-character AND one of them uses magic. It's a double-character that's actually interesting! Yay! Awakening's rep, without a doubt, needs to be a pair. The whole game was about relationships, be they romantic or platonic, and the Dual Support system solidified that, so it would only make sense that the Awakening rep would use this system in Smash 4.

After that, I saw we forego Ike and bring in either Sothe or Micaiah. Sothe is another ninja-esque character, of which we only have one other half-character, and Micaiah is A. a Mage and B. a Light-Mage at that. No one uses light but Zelda. Ideally, I'd like to see Gaius, but he wasn't super-important, unfortunately, although he was apparently very popular (although while we're making wishes, I'd like Tharja).

So there. Take it or leave it; I'm sure there'll be plenty of opposition to my ideas. This is the internet after all. I'm just tired of passing over one of my favorite franchises because all of the characters are so goddamn boring.

 

[OcarinaOfDoom]

replacing Ike.

Funny joke. Ike is still the second most popular FE character in the west, and the only other one to star in two games. Plus Ike is plenty unique already. Also, Chrom being interesting is a funny joke. He had the personality of a rock. I might be too harsh on the rock. Just because people use swords that doesn't mean they aren't interesting. Roy, meanwhile, is still the 3rd most popular lord in Japan, international popularity, FE6 reviving the series, hints at a remake, and he can bring a unique moveset to the table with his fire. Please tell me what Chrom even did that was remotely interesting. He went emo for a chapter. That's all I remember.

 

[UltimateWario]

replacing Ike.

Funny joke. Ike is still the second most popular FE character in the west, and the only other one to star in two games. Plus Ike is plenty unique already. Also, Chrom being interesting is a funny joke. He had the personality of a rock. I might be too harsh on the rock. Just because people use swords that doesn't mean they aren't interesting. Roy, meanwhile, is still the 3rd most popular lord in Japan, international popularity, FE6 reviving the series, hints at a remake, and he can bring a unique moveset to the table with his fire. Please tell me what Chrom even did that was remotely interesting. He went emo for a chapter. That's all I remember.

Shadow the Hedgehog was the most popular Sonic character for a long while. Polls mean jack ****ing **** about the quality of a character.

Chrom's personality shone through in his support conversations, but as I said before, just like all lords, he's about as excited as, you said, a rock, compared to the rest of the cast. He has to be a father to his sister, his own daughter, and then his entire kingdom because of the **** his father put the kingdom through. He feels that his sister's "death" is his fault, but not only actually displays emotion (rare for a lord) but manages to keep fighting and keep a (mostly) level head.

Chrom supposedly having all the personality of a rock really means nothing when everyone else in his situation has all the personality of a ****ing grain of sand. Roy wasn't exciting in Melee. Fire making for an interesting moveset? Ha. Fire is the most common element in Smash Bros. Everyone uses fire. A guy who uses a sword AND fire just makes him the most generic of the generic in addition to the previous clone status.

Roy no more brought Fire Emblem stateside than Marth did. Removing one or the other would've brought it over either way, and it was his father's game that actually made it over. His inclusion was happenstance; if we would've gotten Melee earlier, we would've gotten the dude before him. Same with Ike. Roy is no more relevant than Pichu; his time is long gone, and all demand for him is based on the fact that he previously appeared. At least Mewtwo, the other big Melee vet, is a popular character and is powerfully relevant within his own series. Roy is just another face in a sea of faces, a name that was once important to Fire Emblem but now no more important than any other Lord. The same will be true of Ike before long, and then Chrom, and then whoever after that.

Fire Emblem lords are like Pokemon starters; they're important while they're around, a fun memory when they return, but otherwise no more important than any other Pokemon past its prime.

 

[Hong]

replacing Ike.

Funny joke. Ike is still the second most popular FE character in the west, and the only other one to star in two games. Plus Ike is plenty unique already. Also, Chrom being interesting is a funny joke. He had the personality of a rock. I might be too harsh on the rock. Just because people use swords that doesn't mean they aren't interesting. Roy, meanwhile, is still the 3rd most popular lord in Japan, international popularity, FE6 reviving the series, hints at a remake, and he can bring a unique moveset to the table with his fire. Please tell me what Chrom even did that was remotely interesting. He went emo for a chapter. That's all I remember.

So you have talked about character popularity (which has only really affected one character?), despite the fact half of the cast I wouldn't even call popular enough to be merit of note. The rest of the post is subjective opinion on the character. Can you say something for the opinion of the developer?

I would be absolutely shocked to see Roy come back, and happily surprised to see Ike return.

 

[Robert of Normandy]

So, besides being a Melee veteran, what does Roy have going for him? His last (and only) game came out just after Melee, his legacy (as with all past lords) is nonexistent, and really, he's no more interesting than Eliwood or Alm or anyone else. The only reason I can think of that anyone would want him back is because he was in Melee.

I mostly want him back because of Melee. And? I don't see why this is an issue.

Also, I don't see Ike coming back, either. He's not in style anymore. Awakening sold like ****ing HOTCAKES, and Chrom was vastly more interesting than Ike anyway, so really, again, the only reason he would come back was because he was in Brawl.

Yes, Awakening will definitely get a character because of sales. Because that helped us get an FE7 character in Brawl, right?

Not to mention, poor sales hardly kept Ike from getting into Brawl.

Anyway, I doubt Ike is being replaced. He's one of only two Lords to star in multiple games. Not to mention that Ike was the only Lord other than Marth to get a descendant in Awakening.

(although while we're making wishes, I'd like Tharja).

Wow, am I glad you aren't in charge of the roster.

 

[OcarinaOfDoom]

So you have talked about character popularity (which has only really affected one character?), despite the fact half of the cast I wouldn't even call popular enough to be merit of note. The rest of the post is subjective opinion on the character. Can you say something for the opinion of the developer?

I would be absolutely shocked to see Roy come back, and happily surprised to see Ike return.

Roy was already thought to stand out enough for Melee. High-ups at IS have hinted about FE6 remakes (at the same time they did Marth remakes, and an All Star game, which is presumably FE13, so FE6 remake is probably FE14). IS knows Ike is popular in the West. Priam is Ike's descendant in FE13, when the focus is supposed to be on Marth and co. Popularity at the very least does affect some things. Sakurai does see requests all the time, and they probably influence his decision to some extent. And @ UltimateWario , in regards to IS wanting an Awakening character, remember that IS in the end can't make Sakurai pick a character. Sakurai will pick a character based on what he thinks. A Roy moveset based on zoning with fire based projectiles could easily be unique. The pure concepts of having a sword or using fire don't really mean much in determining how unique a character is. Chrom has a sword, and Robin has fire magic so it's not unique. It's a ridiculous argument.

 

[UltimateWario]

Wow, am I glad you aren't in charge of the roster.

With astounding arguments like "because he's there", I'm glad you aren't either.

 

[Robert of Normandy]

With astounding arguments like "because he's there", I'm glad you aren't either.

What the hell does this even mean?

Thajra is a terrible choice because she's an unimportant side character who has nothing going for her except fanservice. I can think of about 10 or so characters who could do everything Thajra can, and are more important.

 

[xXIke-SamaXx]

Guys quit repeating discussed points, we are beyond discussing these things...what we need to discuss is the move-set possibilities, what a character could bring to the table, fighting among ourselves will solve nothing, it doesn't matter what we see fit and what we think in the end Sakurai will do what in his mind.

 

[UltimateWario]

other stuff

Sounds good to me.

 

[Robert of Normandy]

Guys quit repeating discussed points, we are beyond discussing these things...what we need to discuss is the move-set possibilities, what a character could bring to the table, fighting among ourselves will solve nothing, it doesn't matter what we see fit and what we think in the end Sakurai will do what in his mind.

True enough. I've heard the sales "argument" so many times, and it never gets any better.

 

[FlareHabanero]

Still would pick Tharja over Chrom or Lucina.

Then again, [insert character here] over Chrom or Lucina.

Hell, I would gladly take something like Mii over Chrom or Lucina.

 

[Hong]

I mostly want him back because of Melee. And? I don't see why this is an issue.

Yes, Awakening will definitely get a character because of sales. Because that helped us get an FE7 character in Brawl, right?

Not to mention, poor sales hardly kept Ike from getting into Brawl.

Anyway, I doubt Ike is being replaced. He's one of only two Lords to star in multiple games. Not to mention that Ike was the only Lord other than Marth to get a descendant in Awakening.

Don't you see? Your post is not any better than his, or 99.9% of the posts here.

You can dig up some absolutely minute trivia for any character ever. I could make a bigger argument for Wrys being in the game over Ike by using similar methods, but I won't because it's silly.

At the same time, I would not be so silly as to write off Ike, either.

My point is this is all largely irrelevant. The only character that truly has anything close to the merit of someone like Mario, Kirby or Link or Samus, is Marth, and even then he is leagues too low. If Marth is out of their league, the rest of the Fire Emblem cast is largely inconsequential. It is not unreasonable to assume little thought is put into their inclusion (unless a specific characters gives the developers an idea for something fun), and Intelligent Systems just spits out what they think will be best. I don't think they will be tracing dots and sliding around an abicus.

 

[UltimateWario]

So, what, Fire Emblem is a second party? I didn't know that. I guess we get whoever they decide, then. Might explain why the Fire Emblem roster's always been a bit...lackluster...

 

[Robert of Normandy]

Your argument for Roy was because he was in Melee.

Him being in Melee is my primary reason for wanting him, yes. However, I also think he could be a very interesting character if his Flame Sword abilities were fleshed out.

Also, all the "problems" with Roy you mentioned meant jack squat to Sakurai during Brawls development, since he was being developed at one point(though obviously he never made it to the final stage).

And I like the idea of a small character wielding powerful attacks, and think that a Dark Mage from Fire Emblem would be perfect for that. It has nothing to do with Tharja's looks or admittedly overdone personality, she's just the most recent and the only one I can remember.

If it's just a Dark Mage you want, why not pick one with actual importance to the series, like Gharnef, Julius, Manfroy, or Sephiran? Hell, even somebody like Salem or Pelleas would be better choices.

So, what, Fire Emblem is a second party?

No. Whoever told you that is either misinformed or lying. Intelligent Systems is wholly owned by Nintendo.

 

[FlareHabanero]

So, what, Fire Emblem is a second party? I didn't know that. I guess we get whoever they decide, then. Might explain why the Fire Emblem roster's always been a bit...lackluster...

First party.

It's just that, similar to Pokemon, naturally asking the creators on what is the hottest thing is encouraged due to the lack of a flowing cast of characters.

 

[UltimateWario]

I thought a second-party was a company that was entirely owned by Nintendo but not Nintendo themselves?

For example, Nintendo owns Game Freak, but Game Freak isn't Nintendo, so Pokemon characters are second-party.

But whatever, it's not a big deal.

 

[Robert of Normandy]

Don't you see? Your post is not any better than his, or 99.9% of the posts here.

Uh horesh** Hong. You should know damn well that using sales as a point in Chroms favour is bullsh**.

You can dig up some absolutely minute trivia for any character ever. I could make a bigger argument for Wrys being in the game over Ike by using similar methods, but I won't because it's silly.

It's silly because anyone with half a brain could see that Wrys isn't going to be considered be cause he's a minor suppporting character in all the games he appears in.

Edit: IS is a division of Nintendo, just like HAL labs. The reason Sakurai has gone to them in some instances is because he didn't have a clear idea of who he wanted to add. He's under no obligation to do so, hence why he added Marth without going to them for approval first.

 

[FlareHabanero]

Literally, the best case scenario I can think of is that Sakurai wants Chrom and Lucina together and try to figure out some sort of mechanic that would create interest in two otherwise uninteresting characters, while we get Marth returning as fabulous as ever and Ike returns with the appropriate adjustments that will make him more of a threat.

Of course, that's the best case scenario considering the situation at hand.

 

[Hong]

So, what, Fire Emblem is a second party? I didn't know that. I guess we get whoever they decide, then. Might explain why the Fire Emblem roster's always been a bit...lackluster...

I wouldn't say it's lackluster.

We got Marth, the most important character.

We got Roy, which was an interesting experiment. The fans would have probably opted for Sigurd, but it was simple for the intent.

Ike was a great choice. Doesn't mean there were no other options; Micaiah could have been the new Roy, and Ike's fighting style may as well have been what Ganondorf should be. That said, he is a strong representative of his series, and respected.

Uh horesh** Hong. You should know damn well that using sales as a point in Chroms favour is bullsh**.

I was never encouraging that behaviour.

It's silly because anyone with half a brain could see that Wrys isn't going to be considered be cause he's a minor suppporting character in all the games he appears in.

And then I could bull**** you with a post about how Sakurai likes so and so, or how so and so supporting character was added to Smash Bros, or how less popular characters have appeared, but that kind of defeats the point in why I used that example.

At the end of the day, everyone from Fire Emblem doesn't really have much of a case for appearing in Smash Bros. In fact all the characters worthy of such merit are already in Smash Bros. Everyone else may as well be drawn out of a hat, because their popularity or worth won't dictate whether or not they appear.

 

[Swamp Sensei]

I thought a second-party was a company that was entirely owned by Nintendo but not Nintendo themselves?

For example, Nintendo owns Game Freak, but Game Freak isn't Nintendo, so Pokemon characters are second-party.

But whatever, it's not a big deal.

Second party means that they share the rights with another company they don't own or wholly own.

Fire Emblem is created by Intelligent Systems which is a company wholly owned by Nintendo. This makes the series first party.

Pokemon is created by Game Freak which is a company Nintendo only owns 53% of. This makes Pokemon second party.

Just thought I'd clear that up.

 

[UltimateWario]

Second party means that they share the rights with another company they don't own or wholly own.

Fire Emblem is created by Intelligent Systems which is a company wholly owned by Nintendo. This makes the series first party.

Pokemon is created by Game Freak which is a company Nintendo only owns 53% of. This makes Pokemon second party.

Just thought I'd clear that up.

Why thank you very much.

 

[xXIke-SamaXx]

Well TBH I always love the Idea of having a character slot that represent a group of Characters:

What about a character that alongside Marth and Ike that could be called,

Fire Emblem Army:

The character is basically a nameless Fire Emblem Sword Lord with a nameless tactician in the background:

All the A moves are handled by this Lord and the melee classes all the combos are done by the lord normal sword slashes but the rest of the slashes are continued by a Sword master while the smashes are with a support from other Melee class.

Forward Smash : the Lord does an attack with a Warrior, it's similar to Ice climbers F-Smash.

Down Smash: The Lord Stabs on the ground level with a strong strike and from his back a an Assassin does the same thing with a dagger.

Up Smash: The Lord does a strike upward like Marth dolphin slash but with out the jump if it makes contact the Hero Class will continue through the hit and do a mini Aether


B moves are handeled by Ranged and Mounted classes:

Normal B: A Mage comes infront of the Lord and does Thoron which is similar to R.O.B Laser beam.

Side B : A Paladin Charges infront of the Lord.

Up B: The Lord rides at the back of a Pegasus this Pegasus is Ridden by a Pegasus knight it's mechanic is similar to Charizard's Down B in Project M.

Down B: A General appears infront of the Lord to take a hit if the hit connects the General stretches his lance and does a power Ground strike.


Final Smash : The Tactitian calls on Grima and Grima does what Grima do.

 

[XStarWarriorX]

I see Ike returning.

And sakurai going hey if i'm gonna make an AT playable (little mac), might as well make lyndis playable. Or roy coming back to appease the fans that missed him. An awakening character is not guaranteed due to the moveset they could have (doesn't really stick out), unless you want a generic robin.

I hope sakurai gives awakening AT's and stage(s), I think that should be enough to say thank you to that title. And then proceed to make either roy or lyn playable.

But that's just me.

 

[Hong]

I should clear this up before anyone takes me seriously:

Basically, I would be able to look you in the eyes and say any Fire Emblem lead, and any notable supporting or reoccurring character, can appear in Smash Bros. The way characters are chosen can be at best summarized as "chaotic". I could have made better argument for why Wii Fit Trainer would appear before Rosalina if she was not announced, but ultimately both of them are rather absurd.

And that's okay.

I look forward to trying both characters. There is no Fire Emblem character I personally have anything against inclusion. I love the series and I love their work. Mr. Sakurai has been doing great work all his life; I can't imagine the choice of character being a baseless affair. Everyone has good reasons for being there, and certainly reasons for not.

I could argue for Alm. I could make Eirika out to be the best character choice there is. I could sell the idea of Celice.

Because every character can be made into something interesting if you put your mind to it. It all comes down to the vision and the needs of the developer. The former is outright obscured and immensely variable to the point where he betrays the claims he stakes with just about every interview, and the latter is largely an internal affair in which we have no insight. For all we know, Masahiro Sakurai shares a bed with a Frederick body pillow and is just dying to get his hunny bunny into the game.

 

[Robert of Normandy]

Sure, you could make any character interesting. That doesn't apply just to Fire Emblem. Like I said in another thread, I'm sure Squacks the Parrot could have a very interesting an unique moveset. But nobody is considering Squacks for Smash 4, because there are more important DK characters who are ahead of him in line, so to speak, to be come playable in Smash. The same applies to Fire Emblem. Just about any character in the series could potentially be interesting or unique, but anyone with half a brain knows that unless you're a Lord(or possibly a villain, or a recurring character with a damn stellar attendance record), there's no chance for you to be playable.

 

[Hong]

Sure, you could make any character interesting. That doesn't apply just to Fire Emblem. Like I said in another thread, I'm sure Squacks the Parrot could have a very interesting an unique moveset. But nobody is considering Squacks for Smash 4, because there are more important DK characters who are ahead of him in line, so to speak, to be come playable in Smash. The same applies to Fire Emblem. Just about any character in the series could potentially be interesting or unique, but anyone with half a brain knows that unless you're a Lord(or possibly a villain, or a recurring character with a damn stellar attendance record), there's no chance for you to be playable.

Anna or Tiki are not out of the question.

 

[Robert of Normandy]

Anna or Tiki are not out of the question.

Hence "reocurring character with a damn stellar attendance record." Tiki also has being a Manakete going for her.

 

[Yomi's Biggest Fan]

Tharja? Eeeeeeeewwwwwwwwwwww!

Now a Chrom x Lucina duo (Not in that way, perverts! ) with some unit Pair Up gimmick is something I can get behind. After all, it would be nice to rep a new feature that was introduced in Fire Emblem: Awakening.

 

[Hong]

Tharja? Eeeeeeeewwwwwwwwwwww!

Now a Chrom x Lucina duo (Not in that way, perverts! ) with some unit Pair Up gimmick is something I can get behind. After all, it would be nice to rep a new feature that was introduced in Fire Emblem: Awakening.

If we're going vanilla as far as sticking with basics (leads with swords), probably the best offering the series has.

I imagine them being a character where most if not all of their specials call upon the supporting character, and you can switch between the two. Could be really neat.

 

[BluePikmin11]

I don't think Tiki will be chosen, despite how unique she could be with a dragon-like playstyle.
I think it's best to stick with Robin or Anna for a "non-lord."

 

[FlareHabanero]

I just simply hate the idea of Chrom or Lucina by themselves, because of how going solo creates such a waste of space when we already have Marth and Ike.

 

[Hong]

I don't think Tiki will be chosen, despite how unique she could be with a dragon-like playstyle.
I think it's best to stick with Robin or Anna for a "non-lord."

Largely depends if Sakurai is still suffering PTSD over the Fire Emblem fan-base during the 90s.

 

[Robert of Normandy]

Largely depends if Sakurai is still suffering PTSD over the Fire Emblem fan-base during the 90s.