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Yoshi v. Diddy Kong
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Poltergust
Smash Master
No need to get rude. 
bigman40
Smash Master
I'm being spiteful today. So most of the insults I make in my posts aren't what I would do irl.
upwndbykaiibi
Smash Apprentice
Go Yoshi!!! Yoshi would totally win against diddy kong!!!^^
Oh nooooooes!!! Yoshi!!!
Oh nooooooes!!! Yoshi!!!
Poltergust
Smash Master
It always made me sad to sacrifice Yoshi on Butter Bridge to get to that secret exit. =(
*cough* Back on topic...
*cough* Back on topic...
SOVAman
Smash Hero
This thread is really getting stupid lulz..................plz gets on the topic
I think if you're having trouble with bananas in this matchup......take a day and learn how to DR...
...and then take a week and incorporate it into your game for just this matchup. Even if you have to make a separate control profile, just do it and it'll help you out immensely.
QFT.
...take a day and learn how to DR...
...and then take a week and incorporate it into your game for just this matchup. Even if you have to make a separate control profile, just do it and it'll help you out immensely.
That monkey thinks hes safe glide tossing around like the rabid chimp he is... but little does he know that he's not the only one who can slide about with nannerz.
DR is invaluable for picking up those banannas, but its really hard to get it in with such a frantic matchup.
chimpact
Smash Lord
Whenever you are in the higher %. Just camp diddy kong. His Ko Moves are up air, Fair (which shouldn't kill you considering your great recovery and aerial speed), fsmash, dsmash, and bair (same for fair)
So basically F(d)smash, up air are his killing moves. Up air kills at 140-150sh%. So watch out for that. try not to get to high in the air, since diddy kong can easily glide toss bananas up to set up the up air. Try to stay a few yoshi lengths away when grounded. Diddy kong will not be able to follow up with anything if you space yourself well except dash attack and there are no follow ups with dash attack at that high of a %. dK might be able to grab you, but you shouldn't die from grabs until 180-190%.
Watch out for grab release and up throw though. Upthrow results into an up air. Grab release to dtilt to fair will kill easy if you aren't ready. Dtilt is not guaranteed but dont go to sleep on it. It's a quick move.
Remember you can get a lot of easy damage on diddy kong with the CG. If you camp like wario you can really annoy diddy kong and bait em. Play really patient and go aggressive occasionally. if you can get diddy off stage you're in a better position. Always always hug the stage whenever diddy uses the side B, but be careful not to get stage spiked. If diddy kong resorts to using the barrels stay on the ledge if you are on it and if you aren't use Dair. The hitbox lasts really long so it might deploy the barrels and he'll have a hard time recovering. Or you could also use down b on the ledge for invincibility frames.
Basics in this matchup.
Go for the pivot grab. CG is free damage. And refreshes your other moves by chewing. Usmash and up air are guaranteed after a CG!
Learn how to aerial camp. Stay in the air a lot.
Learn how to catch bananas with aerials and DR.
Get better DI. yoshi is a heavy and diddy kong has bad KO moves. A lot of Diddy Kong's matchups should be 70-30 but are 50-50/60-40 just because of bad KO moves.
Don't get gimped. Playing from behind is not something you want to do. You'll tend to be more aggressive and get banana combo'd for it.
So basically F(d)smash, up air are his killing moves. Up air kills at 140-150sh%. So watch out for that. try not to get to high in the air, since diddy kong can easily glide toss bananas up to set up the up air. Try to stay a few yoshi lengths away when grounded. Diddy kong will not be able to follow up with anything if you space yourself well except dash attack and there are no follow ups with dash attack at that high of a %. dK might be able to grab you, but you shouldn't die from grabs until 180-190%.
Watch out for grab release and up throw though. Upthrow results into an up air. Grab release to dtilt to fair will kill easy if you aren't ready. Dtilt is not guaranteed but dont go to sleep on it. It's a quick move.
Remember you can get a lot of easy damage on diddy kong with the CG. If you camp like wario you can really annoy diddy kong and bait em. Play really patient and go aggressive occasionally. if you can get diddy off stage you're in a better position. Always always hug the stage whenever diddy uses the side B, but be careful not to get stage spiked. If diddy kong resorts to using the barrels stay on the ledge if you are on it and if you aren't use Dair. The hitbox lasts really long so it might deploy the barrels and he'll have a hard time recovering. Or you could also use down b on the ledge for invincibility frames.
Basics in this matchup.
Go for the pivot grab. CG is free damage. And refreshes your other moves by chewing. Usmash and up air are guaranteed after a CG!
Learn how to aerial camp. Stay in the air a lot.
Learn how to catch bananas with aerials and DR.
Get better DI. yoshi is a heavy and diddy kong has bad KO moves. A lot of Diddy Kong's matchups should be 70-30 but are 50-50/60-40 just because of bad KO moves.
Don't get gimped. Playing from behind is not something you want to do. You'll tend to be more aggressive and get banana combo'd for it.
bigman40
Smash Master
I have been working on aerial camping with Yoshi and I've found that staying on the ground is a little more affordable if you know how to fight back with the nanners. This can easily make the fight easier.
for sure it´s not easy, also because yoshi isn´t the best...
but there are harder matchups imo
i do often play against reaper´s diddy (he won the 2nd place at SMACK, he´s no noob x) ) and i have no big problems with his nanners-style
for sure it´s ***** when you get into one of those banana combos, but it doesn´t happen really often (well, it shouldn´t)
maybe i´m alone with this opinion, but i´ve got other mu-problems which are much harder for me...
and something else: sorry for my english >_<
EDIT:
qft
...take a day and learn how to DR...
...and then take a week and incorporate it into your game for just this matchup. Even if you have to make a separate control profile, just do it and it'll help you out immensely.
EDIT2: isn´t it possible to do something like this with the nanners?:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5GzdTccsYc8
chimpact
Smash Lord
I dont think so. Diddy can Auto cancel his dair with a FF and has a Short hop perfect for it. Yoshi I think has an infinite with the bananas though.
chimpact
Smash Lord
You don't even know how gay yoshi will play when people realize he can aerial camp. He obviously isn't going to be as good as wario, but with a DJ cancelling aerial, eggs, and his great aerial speed, he can be one of the top 5 in the game.
Sorry double post.
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Deleted member
Guest
No he really cant. SOrry, he doesnt have good fall speed, or a good downward hitting aerial.
Ive looked into making yoshi as gay as possible, he cant aerial camp too well(i only do it if i need to like calm down).
Ive looked into making yoshi as gay as possible, he cant aerial camp too well(i only do it if i need to like calm down).
Faced a really great Diddy for a few friendlys and I have to say, DT is huge in this matchup. Its a frantic matchup so its quite hard to get DTs in, but most of the time I was in control of the stage was a sole result of DT. Without DR I think this matchup is in Diddy's favor, its easier for him to control the stage and against Diddy thats what its all about. With DR implemented very well (Im not quite at that stage yet), I think the matchup is pretty even.
Yosheon
Smash Cadet
I tend to use my b-throw chaingrab when he's at low percentages, then I'd use my grab-release chaingrab throughout the rest of the match. When that monkey starts flinging bananas everywhere, then I just aerial camp.
By the way, constantly jab cancelling Diddy next to his own banana(s) is very satisfying.
By the way, constantly jab cancelling Diddy next to his own banana(s) is very satisfying.
Krooton
Smash Cadet
Stay in the air to deal with the nanerz and try to use them against him. Kill him as fast as possible and watch out for his spike its nasty and breaks your second jump super armor. You can grab release chain grab this little monkey. He has everything yoshi has except for kill power, weight, and super armor. Abuse theses factors.
I find that the KEY to camping Diddy is to just stay right next to the ledge. If he hits you with a banana, you will simply fall onto the ledge. Stay near the ledge and egg toss, or stay close and ETS backwards so if you got hit with a banana you'd grab the ledge rather than trip. He can't combo you with Bananas, PERIOD. Just stay next to the ledge! It makes it SO much harder for him because he no longer can combo you!
*slaps table* I bring something new to the table!
Diddy won't want to mess with you after, you pull something like this.
Step One: Get a nana in hand.
Step Two: Grab and CG Diddy, preferably starting on near the edge.
Step Three: Continue until you get a about two Yoshi lengths from the edge.
Step Four: Release Diddy, and do a DJC Toss downward. This causes you to slide forward at a faster rate.
Step Five: Since you can attack directly from the slide do an Fsmash. Or also you can do the DJC Toss downward and do the low Uair.
Step Six: Taunt.
Diddy won't want to mess with you after, you pull something like this.
Step One: Get a nana in hand.
Step Two: Grab and CG Diddy, preferably starting on near the edge.
Step Three: Continue until you get a about two Yoshi lengths from the edge.
Step Four: Release Diddy, and do a DJC Toss downward. This causes you to slide forward at a faster rate.
Step Five: Since you can attack directly from the slide do an Fsmash. Or also you can do the DJC Toss downward and do the low Uair.
Step Six: Taunt.
Metatitan
Smash Master
knowing us edrees we'd probly just go peach xD
and chaco that sounds like a good idea, ill have to try it out sometime
Metatitan
Smash Master
^
no it wouldnt, u would have no way to pick the banana up again. but u can get a double cg which is always nice
no it wouldnt, u would have no way to pick the banana up again. but u can get a double cg which is always nice
Le_THieN
Smash Lord
Diddy still has the advantage in this match-up. =PPPPPP
Metatitan
Smash Master
we know that <3
Metatitan
Smash Master
^
eh, sorta, our cg is really based on how well they button mash. our cg is only good for its grab releases, its virtually worthless aside from that (woo hoo, 3% more damage if they button mash right)
eh, sorta, our cg is really based on how well they button mash. our cg is only good for its grab releases, its virtually worthless aside from that (woo hoo, 3% more damage if they button mash right)
Airborne
Smash Lord
yes you can. and i can throw in that anyone that doesn't know, diddy ***** on FD so ban that hoe. and PS1
chimpact
Smash Lord
you cant cg with a banana in hand nub. You cant grab with bananas
Metatitan
Smash Master
^
oh yeah lolz. well we kinda ****ed ourselves right there xD
oh yeah lolz. well we kinda ****ed ourselves right there xD
Metatitan
Smash Master
lmao u get so complicated with the dr and **** u forget that we cant grab with an item xD
Silent Beast
Smash Journeyman
Can't you technically keep holding "A" after you pick the banana up, which would then let you grab? Isn't that how Link does that whole hold-a-bomb-and-do-a-smash thing? I mean, it's not practical unless you change your controls to have A on a trigger, but I think it can be done.
chimpact
Smash Lord
No....
10 char.
10 char.
bigman40
Smash Master
No, when you grab, (even though the grab button can be itself) you're technically pushing Shield and Attack at the same time. That's why you always throw it whenever grab or attack is pushed.
This man knows his ****.
Cause you didn't try it lol. I knew it wasn't gonna work cause you always end up throwing nanners when anything that involves Attack is pushed.