Yoshi Social-20 years of Yoshi's Island!

[Arle Nadja]

Can somebody tell me, how is it that there are SO MANY wacky/cool things and combos pretty much everyone and their mother are doing? Like, this kind of stuff was super rare in the Brawl days, so how come we see it a ton on Youtube and gif thingies?

I'm assuming that it's just because Smash 4 is a bit more friendly to that sort of playstyle than Brawl was.

 

[Deleted member 189823]

.."a bit"?

ALSO THE PINK YOSHI IS FREAKING CUTE, MAY I STEAL IT.

 

[YoHeKing]

Probably because combos where made to link better and you can run.

 

[YoHeKing]

Mario maker for ssb4 is going to be amazing.

I made a long post about Yoshi VS Sheik in the sheik boards and I think I did pretty well lol.

Edit:Oops I didn't realize I had a post posted already.

 

[MrGame&Rock]

probably going to my first local tomorrow, in which I will be repping the light blue Yoshi to hopefully some degree of success. (I did go to Apex, but at that point I mained Diddy) wish me luck!

 

[Delta-cod]

probably going to my first local tomorrow, in which I will be repping the light blue Yoshi to hopefully some degree of success. (I did go to Apex, but at that point I mained Diddy) wish me luck!

Awesome dude! Good luck, and try to get on stream!

 

[Arle Nadja]

ALSO THE PINK YOSHI IS FREAKING CUTE, MAY I STEAL IT.

Sure! vwv The golden top is meant to represent that she is a main, so~

 

[YoHeKing]

What does vwv mean? That one is new to me lol

 

[Sinister Slush]

It's a face.

 

[MrGame&Rock]

I need to study matchups more. I lost the first match in the tournament to a Wario who was pretty good, then I beat a Megaman/Toon Link in Losers and lost to a Falcon. He was punishing my rolls really good with Falcon Kicks, but if I wasn't doing stupid stuff (and suffering a bit of input lag bc ****ty gcn adapters) I probably could have won. Oh well. At least I got to spend a decent amount of time commentating! twitch.tv/tamadrummer1337 is the stream btw.

 

[YoHeKing]

I need to study matchups more. I lost the first match in the tournament to a Wario who was pretty good, then I beat a Megaman/Toon Link in Losers and lost to a Falcon. He was punishing my rolls really good with Falcon Kicks, but if I wasn't doing stupid stuff (and suffering a bit of input lag bc ****ty gcn adapters) I probably could have won. Oh well. At least I got to spend a decent amount of time commentating! twitch.tv/tamadrummer1337 is the stream btw.

Controller johns make It worse for you to improve no matter how bad it is(of course unless like 20 frames of input lag lol). What I normally do is never get salty and think its a good game no matter how hard you choked or anything. Then watch the replays and think about what you could have done and look at every time you hit him like was it luck or was it legit? I wouldnt rematch the guy untill a week or more.

Normally what I do is I try to find the best options and think positive about it. For example look at what you coulda done to avoid a situation first before anything. Once you got that drilled in you head then try to find some options that would have made your punishes more safe and just as effective. Its alright to loose again but as long as your showing improvement its all good.

.I use to hate sheiks back then but now I truely think its even clearly out of the mixups and trades yoshi can do unlike any other MU.


I think im ready to fight one of the best marths in the world again(i think he was top marth in evo) and Ive been studying even harder even though I knew the MU before. Even though I choked the 2nd game I brought it back and didn't say stuff like "If I didn't choke I would have won" lol.

Edit: this was so poorly writen.

 

[MrGame&Rock]

Controller johns make It worse for you to improve no matter how bad it is(of course unless like 20 frames of input lag lol). What I normally do is never get salty and think its a good game no matter how hard you choked or anything. Then watch the replays and think about what you could have done and look at every time you hit him like was it luck or was it legit? I wouldnt rematch the guy untill a week or more.

Normally what I do is I try to find the best options and think positive about it. For example look at what you coulda done to avoid a situation first before anything. Once you got that drilled in you head then try to find some options that would have made your punishes more safe and just as effective. Its alright to loose again but as long as your showing improvement its all good.

.I use to hate sheiks back then but now I truely think its even clearly out of the mixups and trades yoshi can do unlike any other MU.


I think im ready to fight one of the best marths in the world again(i think he was top marth in evo) and Ive been studying even harder even though I knew the MU before. Even though I choked the 2nd game I brought it back and didn't say stuff like "If I didn't choke I would have won" lol.

Edit: this was so poorly writen.

No no no dude you're right, I really shouldn't John. Unfortunently I wasn't on stream so there was no replay for me to watch. I just wasn't playing too well.

By the way, have you ever experienced the weird feeling you get when you watch your own commentary on Stream? Good god the folks watching must have hated me.

 

[YoHeKing]

No no no dude you're right, I really shouldn't John. Unfortunently I wasn't on stream so there was no replay for me to watch. I just wasn't playing too well.

By the way, have you ever experienced the weird feeling you get when you watch your own commentary on Stream? Good god the folks watching must have hated me.

Mango and Scar. Worst commentators ever when they pair up but there pretty funny.

TBH I think the best way to commentate is to talk about cool things the watchers might have not seen on stream. Like for example when D1 commentates he often says stuff he KNOWS are true and just happened that most players wouldn't have noticed when theres nothing hype going on. Point out reads, techs, punishes and sick combos too!

I aint no experienced commentator though. I WANT to commentate one day though. Just dont do dumb things like eat a slim jim during a important match.

 

[MrGame&Rock]

Mango and Scar. Worst commentators ever when they pair up but there pretty funny.

TBH I think the best way to commentate is to talk about cool things the watchers might have not seen on stream. Like for example when D1 commentates he often says stuff he KNOWS are true and just happened that most players wouldn't have noticed when theres nothing hype going on. Point out reads, techs, punishes and sick combos too!

I aint no experienced commentator though. I WANT to commentate one day though. Just dont do dumb things like eat a slim jim during a important match.

I was doing some cool things (referring to the Ding-Dong combo by name, talking about customs, even bringing up the fact that Ganon and Falco have spikes that you can't tech if you're hit with them while standing on stage which actually impressed my co-commentator) and asking questions about stuff I didn't know about, but I often froze up in the play-by-play. It was fun, though, and I want to do it more.

 

[YoHeKing]

Ganons down air is techable I thought unless angled right. Falcos down air isnt a spike on stage. Thats probably what you meant anyways.
Ryus down air combos into alot and even can combo into shoruken at kill percent. Ryu has the best down air in the game IMO. It can spike off stage. It actually sends opponents at like a diagonal angle.

Also does anyone know about this triple up air kill combo that can kill around 50% on FD? I can't believe I haven't known about it till recently. Is it a true combo also no matterwhat the DI is?

 

[MrGame&Rock]

Ganons down air is techable I thought unless angled right. Falcos down air isnt a spike on stage. Thats probably what you meant anyways.
Ryus down air combos into alot and even can combo into shoruken at kill percent. Ryu has the best down air in the game IMO. It can spike off stage. It actually sends opponents at like a diagonal angle.

Also does anyone know about this triple up air kill combo that can kill around 50% on FD? I can't believe I haven't known about it till recently. Is it a true combo also no matterwhat the DI is?

Ganon's is not techable. If Falco's isn't a spike on stage (though the hit kinda acts like one) then that explains a lot and Ganon is actually unique in that regard. Heh.

I too am interested in this upair string of which you speak

 

[YoHeKing]

So Ive been playing with air releases a lot and they set up a lot of 50/50 situations. Some characters like mario kinda have to jump to be safe from the air release which kinda sets up easy catchings.

Ganon's is not techable. If Falco's isn't a spike on stage (though the hit kinda acts like one) then that explains a lot and Ganon is actually unique in that regard. Heh.

I too am interested in this upair string of which you speak

Ill do a short little video of Yoshi doing it on a few characters with mixed DI if I have time. I don't really know how to explain it all the way.

Edit. http://kuroganehammer.com/Smash4/Yoshi theres alot of stuff missing, new stuff added and different numbers from the one here... SO whos telling the truth? I did find some stuff wrong on kuroganehammer anyways.

 

[The Wall]

DI does matter when it comes to Up-air strings with Yoshi, though if they're at the proper percents it really shouldn't be hard to link. My personal favorite is the fair stage spike, if they miss the tech and buffer an air dodge ooooo so much fun to be had.

 

[Depster]

How did nobody on the last page say Omega Port Town Aero Dive?!

 

[MrGame&Rock]

How did nobody on the last page say Omega Port Town Aero Dive?!

Good question! TBH it's because I still have a slimmer of hope for the non-omega version of that stage. If the cars were removed it would be a good legal stage... possibly...

 

[Sinister Slush]

I didn't mention any omega's as favorite cause there's at least 5 I love going to.

 

[Zajice]

If I had to guess, Gaur Plain.

 

[Fuzzio]

Gaur Plain and Mario Galaxy are the only omegas where I'm more inclined to the stages themselves over FD. Otherwise, I just wish we could replace music on other stages (specifically the songs on Town and City and Smashville).

 

[YoHeKing]

DI does matter when it comes to Up-air strings with Yoshi, though if they're at the proper percents it really shouldn't be hard to link. My personal favorite is the fair stage spike, if they miss the tech and buffer an air dodge ooooo so much fun to be had.

Its actually not a string most of the time.


Sometimes if a marth, ike, mario(kinda. Marios up b never fully stage spikes you anyways), ect bans duck hunt and halberd I will counter pick to omega wiifit or omega duck hunt. You can gimp without the worry of a stage spike.

 

[Scarlet Jile]

I need to brush up on my Yoshi to try and cope with Ganon's terrible matchups (Pikachu, Sheik, Rosalina). Anyone want to teach me how to play this character again?

 

[YoHeKing]

Pick up luigi for pika. Takes about 5 battles to learn him lol.

 

[The Wall]

Its actually not a string most of the time.


Sometimes if a marth, ike, mario(kinda. Marios up b never fully stage spikes you anyways), ect bans duck hunt and halberd I will counter pick to omega wiifit or omega duck hunt. You can gimp without the worry of a stage spike.

I would say it is a string, like I said based on the % you start it at. I have stream footage of me stringing people with 3-4 up airs in a row. They DI them left and right and it still doesn't really matter at those percents. At higher percents though I have seen some people prevent death through DI'ing to the side. That's really the only difference.

 

[YoHeKing]

Theres a thing called reacting to DI. Its not that hard with up airs and yoshi can follow up on it. And it does combo into itself gaureteed so why call it string.

 

[The Wall]

Not really a reason to be so nitpicky about the wording if you're saying they're the same thing. Combo'ing multiple up airs or ending it with a nair or a back air read for instance would be a string. Starting the combo with up tilt into those up airs is a string.

 

[Sinister Slush]

Pretty sure it's called yarn not string.

That joke aside, Utilt into uair is a combo. Reading DI or possible airdodges is more of a string of reads for more Uair or a nair.

 

[YoHeKing]

You actually can get It no matter what the DI though... the second you hit the up air Its very easy to tell where they DI'd. So it has to be a true combo since you cant get out of it no matter what you do.

Does string mean true combo with the samemoves or what. I was always told differently.

 

[Vyrnx]

Zero made a video on Yoshi today if you all hadn't seen. Says he is solo main viable.

 

[Nikes]

Thank goodness he said that. I've already had lots of people telling me I need to pick up a secondary/another main to win when I've said it's not even slightly an option to me. Maybe since just about everyone listens to Zero they'll get off my back about it now...I've already made it clear enough to people that I'm strickly solo maining Yoshi and how that won't budge. :/

Edit: Yay for 1,000th post

 

[YoHeKing]

I agree with most of that video. You all know what I will disagree with though.
*cough*The MU part*cough*

 

[Sinister Slush]

The only thing I hate about Zero is the fact he thinks his word is final in everything and since the guy has to live and eat, he makes videos for the masses when they're not really informative or right.
Take everything he says with a very small grain of salt.

 

[iVoltage]

Hey everyone I've been picking up yoshi lately. (Purple is bae) I normally play pika but yoshi is alot easier and they are pretty similar characters so switching isn't weird. Anyway just wanted to say hello lol.

 

[Shadó Chimera / シャドーキメラ]

Nikes, people were actually telling you Yoshi isn't solo main viable? I could have sworn the trend was the opposite.

 

[Nikes]

Yeah, both irl and online (not going to give out any names), it's pretty silly but because people don't see Yoshi winning enough tournaments or seeing enough use people seem to be thoroughly convinced that he's highly overrated. Tiers and opinions can't affect our play or character though so we'll just have to ignore it like Yoshi mains have always done through the Brawl years and just press on.


Also Hi Volty, thanks for coming on by.

 

[Sinister Slush]

I have a fun little league tournament in a few days, problem tho is I caught a sore throat.
How 2 git gud before Thursday. [Citation needed]

 

[Deleted member 189823]

Went my first FULL YOSHI tournament (if you don't count that crappy single-elimination one like three weeks ago), and I feel I learned a lot, from my advantages and from my weaknesses. I have some bad replays, but I also won a $50 MM and only went Bowser so I could win 3-2 towards the end. ( :

I feel a lot more confident in my Yoshi now. I always knew I was one.