Wreck-It Bowser

[Zigsta]

According to the tier list v4 OP, even though Bowser and Ness are mid tier, they are considered "upper low tier" and are acceptable for low tier events.

 

[Hobobloke]

Yeah I'm the TO of most things here anyway.

 

[Zigsta]

Yeah I'm the TO of most things here anyway.

Dang.

I hope Bowser is legal in Texas for low tier. Or else...I may have to play Jiggs. XD

 

[B!squick]

Wha? Play Ganondorf. :O

 

[Phiddlesticks]

Just go and dominate low tiers with Mario, duh

 

[B!squick]

Just saw the new tier list. Bowser is obviously a trend setter. That's 3 in a row he's dropped. It's been one spot each time, but still.

And lol at Zelda. I know it's hard to make an agreeable list with all the characters Brawl has, but each one I see something that makes me go, what the ****. Mostly it's Wario's drop that I question the most, though Zelda's placement is REALLY mind boggling. :/

 

[JOE!]

meh, wario isnt -that- good...

but yeah, wtf zelda?

 

[Zigsta]

I can't play Ganon, haha.

I think my Jiggs is my best low tier right now, but Mario's my second best.

 

[GreenFox]

they dropped zelda just so hyrule could have its own tier list

 

[Bowser King]

Hyrule tier is by far the coolest tier. It's name needs to be changed to tier H.

 

[IsmaR]

Make A tier Snake tier, and then shove everybody else into B, C, and so on.

Also, yay I finally won a low tiers tourney as Bowser. Take that Ness.

 

[Phiddlesticks]

why do you post in such an obnoxious colour

edit: if you dont mind could you answer this in a non-obnoxious colour so i can like, i dunno, read it

thanks ^_^

 

[IsmaR]

Your definition of obnoxious is probably different than mine. You and highlighting would get along real well.

 

[B!squick]

I don't care enough about what you say to highlight it.

 

[IsmaR]

You read it, so your point is invalid.

 

[Phiddlesticks]

please can you stop posting in that obnoxious colour so i can read it without having to highlight/quote it or something

youre going out of your way to make your posts completely unreadable for no reason at all. that is obnoxious no matter whose definition you are using

 

[Phiddlesticks]

yo im not being obnoxious, im just wasting everyones time for absolutely no reason at all!!!

youre lucky i cant post in wingdings on smashboards

 

[Cassius.]

Can I ask why you post in a different shade of violet/purple everytime though?

I really don't see a problem with his font <_< I haven't had to highlight anything he's posted yet. It's worse on AiB ;-;

 

[Shök]

I don't care enough about what you say to highlight it.

You read it, so your point is invalid.

ROFL!

why do you post in such an obnoxious colour

edit: if you dont mind could you answer this in a non-obnoxious colour so i can like, i dunno, read it

thanks ^_^

please can you stop posting in that obnoxious colour so i can read it without having to highlight/quote it or something

youre going out of your way to make your posts completely unreadable for no reason at all. that is obnoxious no matter whose definition you are using

Sigh... Font color johns. >_>

 

[IsmaR]

please can you stop posting in that obnoxious colour so i can read it without having to highlight/quote it or something

youre going out of your way to make your posts completely unreadable for no reason at all. that is obnoxious no matter whose definition you are using

I go out of my way for no one in a manner like that. That includes changing my font for anybody. You don't have to read my posts, nor assume my motives. You're the one being obnoxious.

yo im not being obnoxious, im just wasting everyones time for absolutely no reason at all!!!

youre lucky i cant post in wingdings on smashboards

Took me a try, but I was able to read that. You're wasting your own time. And how am I lucky that you can't waste more of my time?

Can I ask why you post in a different shade of violet/purple everytime though?

I really don't see a problem with his font <_< I haven't had to highlight anything he's posted yet. It's worse on AiB ;-;

All shades of indigo. Violet/purple is for men. I don't always do it, but I started to so less people would come to situations like these. I moved from this to this to this, none of which are that hard to read in my eyes, but people still complained. There's always highlighting/other skins, but I never stopped switching between them.

And that 2nd part x100. lol Mewtwo Skin.

 

[Flayl]

Guys how do you think Bowser fares against the top tiers (with planking and infinites legal) compared to Ike?

IMO:
MK - They both do really bad
Snake - Looking at each characters tools Bowser should do better unless Snake has a hard time punishing Ike's spaced FAir or something
Diddy Kong - I thought they'd be both equally bad but according to the Diddy VS Ike MU discussion Ike does better
Falco - Bowser does better
Ice Climbers - I really have no idea, no MU experience whatsoever
Marth - Both boards say the MU is disadvantaged but not that bad.
Wario - lolcg, bite and crazy aerial mobility, Ike only really has to deal with the latter
Dedede - lolcg. Can Ike shield pressure Dedede with spaced jabs?
Pikachu - They both get CG'd pretty bad. Don't know what to think besides that.
Olimar - They both do equally bad
Lucario - Not that bad for either
G&W - Bowser can't do anything about planking except on YI, Pictochat and maybe Lylat's besides edge-hogging, is that enough? G&W has an easier time pressuring Ike's shield, but Bowser's spacing is easier to overcome. Equally bad?

So my current opinion is 2 - 3 advantage Ike =/

 

[IsmaR]

MK - Bowser does better than Ike, but both are still pretty abysmal in it. Bowser has some decent tools against MK IMO.
Snake - I see them both as nearly equal here, but Ike's recovery is hurt a lot more than Bowser's. Bowser has to deal with more grabs, tilts and projectiles.
Diddy - Ike does better, I agree. Insert a pic of Bowser getting faceraped here.
Falco - What Flayl said.
ICs - Bowser's size really screws him over here. Hella hard to avoid them on the ground and in the air, and poor vertical recovery makes it impossible to survive CG > F-air spike over the edge. Ike's not much better, but his F-air and N-air come in handy for this MU.
Marth - I like this MU actually. Easier on Bowser than for Ike, Up B OoS > most of what Ike has, save for maybe jabs.
Wario - lolD-airspam/aircamping has its fun here. F-smash can be grabbed/Side B'd out of if timed right, though. Ike gets gimped pretty easily, but his damage won't get racked up as fast.
Dedede - Pretty sure Ike has it harder. Hardly ever a safe time for him, particularly off stage, and his jabs become especially predictable. Bowser gets hurt by U/D-air but his F-air, Side/Neutral B and F-tilt make up for it, to me at least. Nothing really to comment on for CGs or offstage, both get ***** by them and B-air.
Pikachu - This MU sucks badly for both, lol. If I had to pick who has it worse, I'd say Bowser.
Olimar - What Flayl said.
Lucario - It's much harder for Ike than for Boozer. Both Bowser's and Luc's U-tilts **** the other, while Ike gets ****ed over big time by Luc's F-air.
G&W - Not very much experience or knowledge in this MU. Shield pressure seems like the bigger disadvantage here, but it's pretty bad for both either way.

 

[Dajayman]

Bowser and Ness are equals now. XD

 

[B!squick]

Bowser and Ness are equals now. XD

Yay! Now Ness and Bowser can finally be together on the tier list... the way it was always meant to be. <3

 

[Liquid Gen]

i think we should klaw more


and die less

 

[MrEh]

MK - Bowser does better. They both get ***** though.
Diddy Kong - They both do bad, but Bowser just gets the shaft on this one.
Falco - Bowser. Definately.
Ice Climbers - Bowser gets *****. Seriously.
Marth - Bowser does better.
Wario - They both lose.
Dedede - Klaw it up yo.
Pikachu - Bowser probably does better.
Olimar - Pretty bad for both.
Lucario - Seems like a fair fight all around

 

[#HBC | J]

Hiya so okay I am doing a little research myself and I thought I should come here to start off my research.

I wanna learn why people use their certain main. This week is Bowser to start things off. Is it alright if I ask some questions about Bowser?

Btw yes im a Lucas main but I still wanna learn about Bowser just cuz this helps my research.

No I am doing this to gain advantage over you guys I just wanna see why you use him

Sorry im weird and bad at post chatting

 

[B!squick]

Because Bowser is teh sex. Look at him.

 

[Cassius.]

Yeah, sure. Ask away. Also, I feel like we need a bbgd title change. -.- The fact that I'm in love with a white princess is old news.

 

[#HBC | J]

Okay so here is a few questions if you don't mind: (btw lmao at the Bowser Pic xD)

Kindof like a questionaire type thing.



1.) How does Bowser match your play style

2.) Is Bowser a good character for a tournament our is he more a fun character to play with?

3.) What is your fav move to use with Bowser?

4.) Is Bowser a tricky character to use to get used to or is he good for Beginner?

5.) What is your fav Bowser color to use while battling?

6.) Worst MU in your own opinon?

7.) Easiest win for Bowser in your own opinon?

8.) Best Stage for Bowser?

9.) Worst Stage for Bowser?

10.) Ground Combos or Air Combos?

11.) Chain grabbing or Off-stage Battling?

12.) In your opinon, Can Bowser's flame breath be an effective part in his battling strategy?

13.) If you could not use Bowser who would you use? Give a reason.

14.) Do you like the Bowser Community?

15.) Who is Bowser's rival? Like considered a fair MU and close battle that could go either way.

16.) Did this quiz appease your boredom and it wasn't a drag to do?




So those are my questions. Just have most of you Bowser mains fill this out if you want and then I will post a thread about Bowser. It's hard to explain but I hope you will like it.


Edit: question 15 fixed for more clarity

 

[Cassius.]

1.) How does Bowser match your play style

He doesn't.

2.) Is Bowser a good character for a tournament our is he more a fun character to play with?

He's fun to play with, but there are so many different and better options for tournaments.

3.) What is your fav move to use with Bowser?

Side B (Koopa Klaw)

4.) Is Bowser a tricky character to use to get used to or is he good for Beginner?

He's not tricky, but I wouldn't advise a beginner to use him at all.

5.) What is your fav Bowser color to use while battling?

Gold/Melee Black

6.) Worst MU in your own opinon?

Ice Climbers.

7.) Easiest win for Bowser in your own opinon?

In general, probably Jigglypuff. For characters that matter, probably Marth or Falco.

8.) Best Stage for Bowser?

Supposedly Battlefield, but I do terribly there for some reason. SV for me.

9.) Worst Stage for Bowser?

Probably Frigate.

10.) Ground Combos or Air Combos?

lolcomboswithbowser

11.) Chain grabbing or Off-stage Battling?

Grab Release ye

12.) In your opinon, Can Bowser's flame breath be an effective part in his battling strategy?

Not...really. Unless you're playing against spacies/Snake

13.) If you could not use Bowser who would you use? Give a reason.

Wolf or Lucario. They were my first characters I mained in Brawl after I unlocked everyone.

14.) Do you like the Bowser Community?

As small as it is, yeah. I've gotten used to everyone here.

15.) Who is Bowser's rival as in who do you find yourself doing even with in tournaments, boards, and just battling?

I don't really get the question...it's worded really awkwardly and explained even worse -.-

16.) Did this quiz appease your boredom and it wasn't a drag to do?

I...just did the quiz. I didn't really put much thought into it <_<

 

[IsmaR]

Rival as in who is he closest to match-up wise, tourney/character ranked wise, your rivalries/characters you personally go even with, etc.
I'm saying DK because of fanboyism/personal experience.

 

[Hobobloke]

1.) How does Bowser match your play style
I always play the big, high damage output characters it seems.

2.) Is Bowser a good character for a tournament our is he more a fun character to play with?
He's bad for tournaments, but I still play him.

3.) What is your fav move to use with Bowser?
Klaw

4.) Is Bowser a tricky character to use to get used to or is he good for Beginner?
He's not tricky, but still not advisable for people new to the game.

5.) What is your fav Bowser color to use while battling?
Bling Bowser

6.) Worst MU in your own opinon?
IC's

7.) Easiest win for Bowser in your own opinon?
Jiggs or PT

8.) Best Stage for Bowser?
Very matchup dependent.

9.) Worst Stage for Bowser?
See above.

10.) Ground Combos or Air Combos?
Ground, multi-hitting moves count right?

11.) Chain grabbing or Off-stage Battling?
Grab releases 4 lyf!

12.) In your opinon, Can Bowser's flame breath be an effective part in his battling strategy?
No

13.) If you could not use Bowser who would you use? Give a reason.
G&W, my secondary, he's got a ****ing bell.

14.) Do you like the Bowser Community?
Yeah, it's small enough so we all know each other

15.) Who is Bowser's rival? Like considered a fair MU and close battle that could go either way.
Personal experience, Lucas

16.) Did this quiz appease your boredom and it wasn't a drag to do?
Killed some time.

 

[MrEh]

1.) How does Bowser match your play style

I like greedy characters.


2.) Is Bowser a good character for a tournament our is he more a fun character to play with?

Bowser sucks in tournament. That being said, he's wicked fun to play.


3.) What is your fav move to use with Bowser?

Favorite move?


4.) Is Bowser a tricky character to use to get used to or is he good for Beginner?

Bowser is extremely awkward for new players to use. I wouldn't say he's difficult to use though once you get the proper mindset down.


5.) What is your fav Bowser color to use while battling?

Default.


6.) Worst MU in your own opinon?

Ice Climbers.


7.) Easiest win for Bowser in your own opinon?

Blue Alloy


8.) Best Stage for Bowser?

Warioware


9.) Worst Stage for Bowser?

Warioware


10.) Ground Combos or Air Combos?

What are combos?


11.) Chain grabbing or Off-stage Battling?

Do you have to choose between the two?


12.) In your opinon, Can Bowser's flame breath be an effective part in his battling strategy?

As a spacing and edgeguarding tool, yes.


13.) If you could not use Bowser who would you use? Give a reason.

There are other characters besides Bowser?


14.) Do you like the Bowser Community?

Sure.


15.) Who is Bowser's rival? Like considered a fair MU and close battle that could go either way.

Another Bowser.


16.) Did this quiz appease your boredom and it wasn't a drag to do?

Quiz was fine.

 

[Vex Kasrani]

1.) How does Bowser match your play style

I created my own playstyle for him.

2.) Is Bowser a good character for a tournament our is he more a fun character to play with?

He's bad, really bad. Hes okay to play with though.

3.) What is your fav move to use with Bowser?

Klaw

4.) Is Bowser a tricky character to use to get used to or is he good for Beginner?

Bowser is a wall of mindgames and scrubs won't be able to play him effectively.

5.) What is your fav Bowser color to use while battling?

Silver

6.) Worst MU in your own opinon?

IC's

7.) Easiest win for Bowser in your own opinon?

Jiggs

8.) Best Stage for Bowser?

BF/FD

9.) Worst Stage for Bowser?

Lylat

10.) Ground Combos or Air Combos?

wat

11.) Chain grabbing or Off-stage Battling?

I do both.

12.) In your opinon, Can Bowser's flame breath be an effective part in his battling strategy?

Matchup dependent

13.) If you could not use Bowser who would you use? Give a reason.

Anybody I find fun at a specific time, I'm currently playing Wario

14.) Do you like the Bowser Community?

Yar

15.) Who is Bowser's rival? Like considered a fair MU and close battle that could go either way.

Uh, a character vs Bowser? My character rival is with DDD, but everybody knows thats not a fair matchup. GnW

16.) Did this quiz appease your boredom and it wasn't a drag to do?

Blarg



Oh and guys, Ike potentially beats Pikachu, so he def does better in that matchup then Bowser.

 

[KingKong_ad]

1.) How does Bowser match your play style

I always play very defensive.

2.) Is Bowser a good character for a tournament our is he more a fun character to play with?

No. But Im still thinking bowser is way better than people thinks.

3.) What is your fav move to use with Bowser?

Bowsercide

4.) Is Bowser a tricky character to use to get used to or is he good for Beginner?

Hes not tricky but to be good with bowser, we need to have a good game knowledge + a good mindset

5.) What is your fav Bowser color to use while battling?

White

6.) Worst MU in your own opinon?

I dont have proble with any match ups, but the one I have more trouble is Ic

7.) Easiest win for Bowser in your own opinon?

hmm, there is alot for me, probably any characters that have problems to kill

8.) Best Stage for Bowser?

Rainbow Cruise <3

9.) Worst Stage for Bowser?

match up dependents

10.) Ground Combos or Air Combos?

ground combos

11.) Chain grabbing or Off-stage Battling?

Both

12.) In your opinon, Can Bowser's flame breath be an effective part in his battling strategy?

Only spacing and edgeguard move

13.) If you could not use Bowser who would you use? Give a reason.

I play with every character and there is no one who gives me fun like bowser

14.) Do you like the Bowser Community?

Even if I dont partipicate a lot yeah

15.) Who is Bowser's rival? Like considered a fair MU and close battle that could go either way.

Snake, I still think its near even and this is by far my favorite match up

16.) Did this quiz appease your boredom and it wasn't a drag to do?

nha

 

[B!squick]

1.) How does Bowser match your play style
Like him, I too are known as the King of Awesome. :D

2.) Is Bowser a good character for a tournament our is he more a fun character to play with?
Unless your name is Ixis, fun only.

3.) What is your fav move to use with Bowser?
FSmash obviously.

4.) Is Bowser a tricky character to use to get used to or is he good for Beginner?
Not tricky, but definitely NOT for beginners.

5.) What is your fav Bowser color to use while battling?
The metallic looking one.

6.) Worst MU in your own opinon?
Eh... either Sonic or Ganondorf. No lie.

7.) Easiest win for Bowser in your own opinon?
... I really can't think of anyone other than Jigs besides Captain Falcon maybe.

8.) Best Stage for Bowser?
Rainbow Cruise

9.) Worst Stage for Bowser?
Japes. x_x

10.) Ground Combos or Air Combos?
Gimpyfish Combos, son!

11.) Chain grabbing or Off-stage Battling?
Grab Release foe show, though I do do both.

12.) In your opinon, Can Bowser's flame breath be an effective part in his battling strategy?
Yep.

13.) If you could not use Bowser who would you use? Give a reason.
Either G&W (Judgment Hammer for the win), Wario (his pummel, lol), or DeDeDe (he doesn't crouch, he relaxes ^_^)

14.) Do you like the Bowser Community?
I think of it more as a small circle of friends, but yeah.

15.) Who is Bowser's rival? Like considered a fair MU and close battle that could go either way.
Not many fair match ups... Link or Samus I guess.

16.) Did this quiz appease your boredom and it wasn't a drag to do?
It has filled my life with eternal joy and happiness.

 

[#HBC | J]

wow these are some good results. After tomorrow I will start making the thread for you guys of what I find

Edit: Do you guys have a pic thread? (random but I can't find one)

Also why is this not stickied as a thread?

 

[B!squick]

Nope, no pic thread. And it's not stickied because it's http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CXexcurfdmI for that.

 

[Bowser King]

Also why is this not stickied as a thread?

That's because this is one of the few threads that can keep itself alive without being stickied

...and what JayDeth said.