Would you suicide in tournament matches?

[Walbytamer11]

Hi, I'm kind of a new poster here and I was wondering, how do you personally act if your opponent in a tournament match accidentally suicides (messes up a wave dash maybe)? Do you refrain from suiciding? Also, if you are a certain amount of stock or percentage behind your opponent do you act differently? What type of factors could contribute to the way you respond?

 

[Bones0]

I have before, but only cause I knew I would win anyways. I would never do it in a close match because it may happen to you as well.

 

[Dan Salvato]

It's a tournament match. Show no mercy.

 

[LLDL]

I just say "aww man" and continue playing normally.

 

[Sully]

Depends how serious I am about the match. In a tourney, no, because I have a bigger chance of victory but I'd probably feel kinda bad :/

 

[Bing]

Yeah I agree with Chain-ace, If its early in the match(Like 10 seconds in) I'll offer to restart, otherwise I just say dude that sucks or whatever.

In terms of the stock/percent question you asked, I generally play more aggressively if Im down 1 stock or lots of %. if Im down to my last stock I play more conservatively. If they are more then 1 stock up, I go super Aggro and play gimpy.

 

[odinNJ]

i always sui in friendlies, in tournament its every man for himself.
I have seen a video of mango doing it though

 

[PGH Carroll]

i kill myself on purpose if my opponent does something awesome. or if they do a sick 0-death on me. (the famous pittsburgh "thats worth 2 stocks")

and yes i do it in tournament

 

[ToastyTHT]

Well you see, I play Game and Watch, and in friendlies I will restart if I get ******** 9 hammer luck in the first 40% of first stock because that feels cheap, but in tourney? No, I gotta take the advantage. However if the person seriously ****s up early on sure, I will ask him for restart.

 

[Wake]

I always taunt when my opponent suicides.

 

[RaphaelRobo]

I usually taunt (I'm playing either Ganon or Kirby, so it's an appropriate taunt. Especially if I'm playing Kirby) and make a facial expression similar to Leffen's avatar.

But I don't suicide. In tourney, it's part of the game. Getting punished for suiciding will provide them with an incentive to get better and stop doing it. If I suicide too, there's no incentive. In friendlies, it doesn't matter who wins, so suiciding wastes time.

 

[MasterShake]

If it happens in the beginning I restart the match, but otherwise...I keep on playing like a *****. I feel like such a punk too.

 

[Arcadia157]

Like most people are saying, in a tournament match, if it happens really early on, and I haven't really gotten a hit yet, then I'll offer to restart. However, if its at low % when I'm in the middle of a combo/tech chase and they mistakenly air dodge off or something, then there's no turning back.

 

[ERayz]

IIRC, I've seen a set between SilentSpectre and Axe. Axe SD'd by accident at the beginning of the game on FD, and SilentSpectre had about 9% and decided to suicide on purpose, probably by respect or something. SS lost the match though. I'll try to find the link.

Found it: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QLmY-CkXys0&t=8m25s

Actually it was Axe who had 9%, and Silentspectre was at high%, but it's still an intentional suicide in a tournament set.

 

[Captain Smuckers]

I have before and ended up losing lol. I can't say for sure I would've won if I hadn't, but I really don't care. Hell, I'd probably do it again

 

[Construct]

If they did it at high percents I won't do anything, but if it's a fresh stock I'll kill myself. I wouldn't feel right about winning a game like that.

Plus there's that one video from that recent tourney in SoCal where it's either mango vs lovage or mango vs s2j, forget which, mango suicides and the other guy doesn't and then mango gets dat rage and ***** them the rest of the set brutally.

 

[FrenchToasts]

bananna wamma slamma

 

[KrIsP!]

i always sui in friendlies, in tournament its every man for himself.
I have seen a video of mango doing it though

I was watching that stream where mango commentated for a bit. While he was playing he suicided and someone followed suit, can't remember if it was friendlies(probably) but I remember the commentator at the time saying if mango suicides and you don't, he'll go aggro on you, if you do suicide he'll take it easy.

 

[Fregadero]

If it was someone I really wanted to beat and it was close, I would. If its someone worse than me it depends on the player but probably. If its someone clearly better than me I wont so I can walk around and falsely hype up my performance.

 

[Strong Badam]

Only against Mango

 

[Levingy]

In tournament: Never.

In casuals I do it in certain conditions: Let's say I'm playing against a player, who is couple or one level lower than me. When I'm playing bad and he is playing good, the matches are pretty even, he might even win some of them. Then, when I'm playing good, he get's 4-stocked. If I notice, that everytime when I get my own game on point and start beasting him down so that 4-stock or something might come, he starts to make suicides (either accidentally or like semi-purposely), then I will suicide.

The reason I do it is because then he cannot explain his total destruction with suicides or anything. Like: "don't put that match on youtube, I played bad, I even suicided...". I just want that he cannot explain a single part of me beasting him with he making a suicide. It irritates me that if when I get on point with my game, the opponent starts to make suicides easily, so my own suicide then is like a counter to his :D. And I have seen, that when I counter their suicide with mine, it irritates them, and the result is, that they start making less suicides when I'm playing good, because they know, that I will suicide also, and it doesn't do any good with them.

 

[Jolteon]

I've done it before, but if it happened to me now I wouldn't do it. I've also had it done to me and managed to turn a 2-0 into a 2-3, needless to say it's a decision he regretted lol.

 

[rawrimamonster]

You learn from mistakes, for other players its the same story. Next time they'll SD less wont they. I got over the "compensation suicide" thing years ago, honestly it gets old having people stop caring and basically give up trying at all during a match, so I'll just kill em faster and let them be emo about losing.

 

[stelzig]

I've always kinda disliked when people do this because I feel it forces me to do it as well and i'd rather just play the game and let **** happen even when it regards actual luck. Depending on mood I may actually suicide again if my opponent chooses to do it just to even things out again. I guess it's the "I don't want to win that way mentality" I have there as well, except I don't want to win because my opponent SD'd on freaking purpose.
Restarting matches if it happens right at the start of something, I can somewhat accept though.

Regarding the luck thing, I always told people not to stop and let me win in mariokart if they felt I deserved to win a race because I would likely not do it for them and it evens out in the end anyway.

Edit: Ah yes... I tend to do the taunt thing as well ^x^

 

[Bing]

Oh yeah I forgot to mention that once and awhile I do taunt.

If Im playing a pro and I know im going to lose, I generally taunt during the first 3 seconds of the match. Then If and when I take a stock, I taunt again.

 

[PGH Carroll]

i feel like everyone here is like.. "yeah of course id do it!" then i come to tourney and theyre like.. "awe dude that sucks."

REAL FOOTAGE http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F3OdmfJtHX4

 

[JacopeX]

Tournament match? I never have, never would.

Friendlies? I do it whenever I feel that I have the bigger advantage skill wise.

 

[Wolfy!]

I always taunt if my opponent suicides, lol.

In tournament, I don't suicide on purpose if my opponent does unless it's real early in the set. Otherwise, I play it out like normal.

In friendlies, sometimes I will, sometimes I won't. Depends on if it's a really stupid error, but if it is, I'll give up a stock just to add to the fun.

 

[odinNJ]

bananna wamma slamma

this is the most enlightening post on this thread

 

[Todd Bonney]

I wouldn't do it in tournament (and I usually don't in friendlies) and it bugs the hell out of me when I see other people do it. It's not "respect" or "sportsmanship," it's just foolish and makes the game look bad. If someone misses a wide open layup in the playoffs, do you say "Aw man. Well, that was a dumb mistake, so why don't you try again?" Nah, man, nah. You play the game to win. I'd rather see an error column tacked on to smash matches or players like baseball.

 

[lordvaati]

I would not be surprised if a Jiggly player gets bored sometimes and just breaks their shield.

 

[Rainbow]

I always taunt when my opponent suicides.

Same, it tilts people hard.



On a related note, if anyone plays Magic: The Gathering, I recall what a pro player once said:

"Why do you say 'good luck' at the start of the match, when in reality you'd be totally fine with your opponent mulling into oblivion and losing straight up?"

When it comes down to it, maybe it was just your day to win that match anyway.

 

[KrIsP!]

I would not be surprised if a Jiggly player gets bored sometimes and just breaks their shield.

lol, it's always tempting when your shields almost broken and someone's going aggro. I feel like it'd completely shock them and give me an advantage if I try it once when I'm at 120+%

Just for the uber lolsy mindgames.

 

[ryuu seika]

I get really annoyed when my opponent self-KOs.
I worked hard for that kill and they took it from me!

 

[Deleted member]

i almost never suicide but if mango ****s up and kills himself kill yourself right away or he will stop sandbagging and **** the **** out of you

 

[The Irish Mafia]

only against mango.

 

[A3(PO4 3-)]

^i loved that set

 

[S l o X]

against close friends.