Wofl Q&A/Social

[Rizen]

They said that Nobody uses Wolf And Wolf doesnt fit the Japan style because his attacks have to much lag.

Wow.
http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=316518
"The Official Tier List as of 12/16/11
- Offline

Ｓ＋　　Metaknight

Ｓ　　　Ice Climbers

Ａ＋　　Olimar　Diddy　Falco　Snake　Fox

Ａ　　　Pit　Wario　Marth　Dedede　Zero Suit Samus

Ｂ　　　Toon Link　Robot　Lucario　Zelda and Sheik　Game and Watch

Ｃ　　　Donkey Kong　Peach　Wolf　Kirby　Pikachu　Ike

Ｄ　　　Lucas　Mario　Sonic

Ｅ　　　Luigi　Bowser　Yoshi　Ness

Ｆ　　　Ganondorf　Pokemon Trainer

Ｇ　　　Captain Falcon　Link　Samus

Ｈ　　　Jigglypuff


Stagelist

Final Destination
SmashVille
Battlefield"
Why's Ganon so high then? He's the laggiest character. Looking at this, it's outdated but probably close to the current one. Will someone link the current list?

Link: In your FACE Samus and Jiggz!
Samus to Link: "Yeah in America you were 3rd to last. Way to climb the ladder in Japan"
Link: "Shutup!"
Zelda(Sheik): "Quiet down there. (que annoying spoiled girl anime laugh) Aaaahahahaha!"
Pikachu: "Pika"

 

[Seagull Joe]

They said that Nobody uses Wolf And Wolf doesnt fit the Japan style because his attacks have to much lag.

Lol. What the **** is Bair.

 

[Ishiey]

What Seagull said

I mean, they're right for the most part, many of Wolf's moves have a ton of endlag, buuut that's why you don't use those for much besides punishing >_> bair is good, jab is good, uh... bair is good... yeah... lol

 

[#HBC | J]

Random question:

Why do all Wolf mains use a pokemon under their posts? Particularly, Arcanine?

Always been something I've been curious of after knowing Gheb for all these years.

 

[tekkie]

the only nonsensical placement on that list is pikachu

ichu:

 

[MegaRobMan]

D-tilt is fast and ends fast too.

 

[Seagull Joe]

Random question:

Why do all Wolf mains use a pokemon under their posts? Particularly, Arcanine?

Always been something I've been curious of after knowing Gheb for all these years.

Tekkie mains ichu: in melee. The has something to do with pokemon rankings that reflect how would be portrayed on a pokemon tier list and it's because it's close to a wolf. I use because I like birds and is the coolest one of sprites. The main reason I use is because EE uses and I'm in the same crew. Tantalus uses swellow as an avi. As you have seen, I've had multiple bird avatars.

 

[#HBC | J]

Alright, thank you very much Joe. Now it makes sense. ^^

 

[Rizen]

Wolf has ending lag but no more than many of the characters higher than him. His lag level is a little below average American borderline tier IMO. The stage list could hurt him seeing that their largest is FD and has no platforms.

So Rizen, which characters do you use now?

Funny you should ask because I have the perfect answer:

Spoiler

 

[AscWolf]

so tomorrow starts srt, but i will go to the city tomorrow cause i don´t have a teampartner.
quiksilver and I got net controllers today.

about 18 $ each ^^

 

[KRDsonic]

All the cool people seem to be coming to my wolf thread.

 

[rsr2]

Those controllers look so legit : o

Also I am pretty cool <3

 

[Rizen]

^^Good to hear from you.
^unsettling avatar.

 

[rsr2]

Yeah my friend made that and it freaked me out when I first saw it. Then I had to change my avi :D

 

[#HBC | Joker]

Someone asked for the most recent Japanese tier list?

For those interested: quiKsilver and AscWolf who are currently in Japan have asked Nietono about the most recent japanese tier list. This is what they got:

Top:
S+
S
A+

High:
A
B
C+

Mid:
C
D+
D

Low:
E
F
G
H
I

There's a couple of things I can agree with [Fox, Pit, Wario, Ganondorf] and I generally feel like they've got the top tier pretty much completely correct. Only thing I'd change from the Top + High tier is that Pikachu should take ZSS' spot.

 

[Rizen]

^Thanks.

I saw the thread too, lol. "Lucas CAN do this to Yoshi", "Yoshi can do this OR this to mess up DI"...

Sleepless.
I saw the Avengers, youtube missed one heh heh
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=89QX7HoBk1M
Entertaining movie. Predictable but a fun watch.

 

[Seagull Joe]

We're ?

 

[Jrugs]

Soooooooooooo.....who wants to go to New York?
Opening up a carpool for Impact in New York Tell your friends

(disclaimer one way trip)

 

[_Kain_]

Damn son, to far from anywhere close to me, might of thought about going. Good luck and safe travels to you, your a cool guy and was cool to meet you

In other news, Pikachu Dthrow CG confirmed for ending at 62%, gonna be practicing/trying to find out a bunch of things, new strats, etc.

 

[AscWolf]

Anyone watching the srt Stream?

I messed up Pools, was To tired.

But i won the best side Event ever
FFA 4 Players, all stages And items.
3 Minutes best 2 advance.

 

[Ishiey]

That is one hardcore carpool lol. Good to see the initiative to travel so far for smash though

Congrats on winning the side event Asc xD I haven't been able to keep up with the stream due to lots of traveling, but hope to watch some of it tomorrow.

I predict that Kain is going to place in the top 16 at APEX, you heard it here first.

 

[#HBC | Joker]

He's traveling that far because he's moving there. The carpool is just him being willing to scoop up extra people along the way. Thus, the one way trip. If you go with him, you're not getting a ride back

 

[DeLux]

Kain talked me into playing Wolf

 

[Seagull Joe]

Soooooooooooo.....who wants to go to New York?
Opening up a carpool for Impact in New York Tell your friends

(disclaimer one way trip)

What the ****?

Damn son, to far from anywhere close to me, might of thought about going. Good luck and safe travels to you, your a cool guy and was cool to meet you

In other news, Pikachu Dthrow CG confirmed for ending at 62%, gonna be practicing/trying to find out a bunch of things, new strats, etc.

Interesting. Thanks for the info about the specific percent.

Anyone watching the srt Stream?

I messed up Pools, was To tired.

But i won the best side Event ever
FFA 4 Players, all stages And items.
3 Minutes best 2 advance.

Nice.

Kain talked me into playing Wolf

Lolwut?

That is one hardcore carpool lol. Good to see the initiative to travel so far for smash though

Congrats on winning the side event Asc xD I haven't been able to keep up with the stream due to lots of traveling, but hope to watch some of it tomorrow.

I predict that Kain is going to place in the top 16 at APEX, you heard it here first.

One can wish/hope. Chibo being the TO makes things...Not as likely for a main.

In other news, my tournament was a success. I got 1st in doubles and 5th in singles. Beat Esoj/Deez (Two 's loool) and lost to ChuDat/Logic. Didn't really play any friendlies due too TO'ing the entire time to make sure things ran smoothly. My tech game wasn't on point as I'd of liked it to have been. Probably will do better at a tourney not hosted by myself so I can practice before I play loool. Literally played maybe 10 matches the entire tourney.

 

[Rizen]

Nice work

 

[tekkie]

im running a tourney tomorrow night it'll be funsies

 

[rsr2]

If you are playing in it, you better win!

Also the Sun Rise Tournament stream is pretty hype.

Finally at the GenCon tournament. I am thinking of going all Ganon. Now if I have a good chance of winning something
then I will go Wolf : D

 

[tekkie]

If you are playing in it, you better win!

Also the Sun Rise Tournament stream is pretty hype.

Finally at the GenCon tournament. I am thinking of going all Ganon. Now if I have a good chance of winning something
then I will go Wolf : D

yeah im gonna rock worldz

brb though, making pudding

 

[rsr2]

It's 4 o'Clock in the morning. Why on earth are you making pudding?

 

[TheReflexWonder]

Is frame advantage on hit for Wolf's Down-B the same against every character? If so, what is the number? If not, is there a list (I could've sworn there was a list)?

 

[Ishiey]

There is a list, I'd pull it up if mobile didn't frustrate the crap out of me X___x jab is always guaranteed provided you're in range, grab and dtilt idk, JJ always says they work but I must suck at buffering I guess, never had much luck :/

Welcome to the Wolf boards, Luis

 

[tekkie]

dtilt always works

 

[Seagull Joe]

There is a list, I'd pull it up if mobile didn't frustrate the crap out of me X___x jab is always guaranteed provided you're in range, grab and dtilt idk, JJ always says they work but I must suck at buffering I guess, never had much luck :/

Welcome to the Wolf boards, Luis

Shine is DI'able. Sometimes you can't finish a full jab even. If the first hit connects and they're already far back I just jab once then bair.

 

[TheReflexWonder]

Shine is DI'able. Sometimes you can't finish a full jab even. If the first hit connects and they're already far back I just jab once then bair.

All the more reason to consider stronger, not-guaranteed follow-ups.

 

[_Kain_]

I jab after shine because it's really good for refreshing moves cause of each hit counting towards the refresh bar. I agree on the going for stronger not-guaranteed follow ups, but when there not in range of the 1,2,3 jab, which you get accustomed to recognizing the more you do it. I guess it's more something you try to go for depending on the opponent your playing, and also character. Some characters are more prone to stronger setups after shine, while some are stronger against it (like Snake, Falco, MK, who have good answers to most options up close in terms of frames)

 

[MegaRobMan]

In other news, Pikachu Dthrow CG confirmed for ending at 62%, gonna be practicing/trying to find out a bunch of things, new strats, etc.

Let me know, hopefully before this weekend, especially if I gotta vs Espamus.

dtilt always works

I need to remember this, I got a shine, hit jab 1 but I missed the rest of it and got punished for it. If they trip that's rigged. 3% + 8% + 12 is pretty goooooood.

In other news, I'm safely in GA, but I doubt I'll be able to play against the smashers here because of family johns.

In other, other news, Lumi is ****ing cool, he loves to cuddle and he has 15 cats.

I got like 7th or something like that at the KY tournament, lost to Kel (made him go MK, even though he promised he wouldn't ) and SneakyTako, beat Mr. Eric and some other dudes.

I need to, like...sleep before tournaments. This tournament I hadn't slept more then 8 hours over the last 5 days due to various things like insomnia, anxiety, bad sleep schedules, meeting with the dean of admissions at UNO about stuff.

I used all of my energy vs Kel to the point where I could have won if I was better rested. Tako was like "Dude, I saw you play vs Kel and Mr. Eric and I was afraid, then you just seemed like you were on autopilot" and he was right, I couldn't even focus on anything, my entire head of vibrating and I was super warm, felt like a fever but it wasn't, I was dry heaving all day, which only Sorasin knew.

These aren't johns, lol, I need to fix my ****ing life but it's so hard, I've had insomnia since I was 13 and I'm double that **** now.

I did win Melee, though. Super Free.

 

[Rizen]

The term johns in this context alone is overused. It's true that some people do complain about every little thing and a player needs to know their condition before a match but things like family or if you (the player) get sick or would rather get laid than smash are legit.

I've missed many, many smash events because family and insomnia. I've never entered doubles in tourneys or ladders because my timing is too chaotic and I don't want to inconvenience anyone else . My tired game autopilots at 3/4ths speed. Aaaaaannd not having a car sucks.

 

[rsr2]

You should do doubles anyway :D I am really bad at doubles too but my partner and I only played doubles once before entering our first tournament and we didn't do too well but double G&W was lols.

Yeah I agree with not having a car. That part sucks but also never getting weekends off from does too >_>

 

[MegaRobMan]

In other news, I'm sub 200 pounds for the first time since I was like 21.

I mean, I haven't eaten anything other than 3 slices of pizza and a banana over the last 3 days since I can't eat when I can't sleep and I puked up all the liquid from my body.

And it's 199.5 pounds.

But still, for the next 12 hours I'm sub 200 baby!! lol.

Edit: Wait how did I miss the "or get laid" comment rofl

Also I'm pretty bad at B-dubs but it's because I play brawl doubles like tri-monthly. For about an hour.

 

[~ Gheb ~]

In other news, Pikachu Dthrow CG confirmed for ending at 62%, gonna be practicing/trying to find out a bunch of things, new strats, etc.

Details plz?