Wofl Q&A/Social

[Rizen]

For me Falco's an even match for Wolf but his CG gives him that 55/45 advantage. It's not too bad but does let him control the start of the game and get easy damage. ...or a semi free stock lead if things go wrong :/ .
Agree about G&W being even but he does better on more stages *coughRCcough* and has no weak stages so I could go 55/45 G&W too from that.

 

[Seagull Joe]

For me Falco's an even match for Wolf but his CG gives him that 55/45 advantage. It's not too bad but does let him control the start of the game and get easy damage. ...or a semi free stock lead if things go wrong :/ .
Agree about G&W being even but he does better on more stages *coughRCcough* and has no weak stages so I could go 55/45 G&W too from that.

Rc/Brinstar are never legal anymore and there is no evidence does better on Rc then matchup-wise.

Viviff said 65-35 's favor. That's the kinda shiz I'm talking about. 45-55 I could agree with just because the cg is pretty powerful, but I'm leaning towards even at the moment.

 

[Rizen]

Lol 65/35. I see.
When I want to be a cheap SOB on the ladder I go G&W and RC but it's a wifi ladder so that means nothing.

 

[CT Chia]

Examples:

CoT5- I played Pwii every single time I went up to Nj for two tourneys straight and you had me play him for a 3rd time. Mind you, this is all within a 3 month span. Pound 5 (February), Ktar 5 (May), and CoT5 (June).

Apex 2012- You gave me the only person in bracket with a ton of exp (Mr-R). And you even had Coney play 4God (The only other to make bracket) R1.

Please don't think of that as any kind of negativity towards me, it is nothing more than a coincidence.

I did not know you had played Pwii both at Pound 5 and KTAR. In general, this isn't something you can seed by, though I understand it can be unenjoyable. If you can catch it early enough at a tournament I have control over, let me know and I can see what I can do, but no promises (I'll try though).

As for Coney and 4God, I try to be basically blind to characters as I seed. People run into bad and awkward matchups all the time, but that lies in their choice of a main, not the seeding of the TO.

Also in terms of Apex 2012, I think I worked some on the bracket, but it by far wasn't all me. The main thing I made was round 2 pools, and I had nothing at all to do with the creation of R1 pools.

 

[Ishiey]

Seagull, I really doubt Chibo (or any competent/well-known TO for that matter) would intentionally deal with setting such things up. Also, if Chibo found your post, does that mean search has been fixed? :O

lol that blog. Best comment is "wolf sucks", but unfortunately it doesn't make up for all the booty posts from 2009 :/

 

[Seagull Joe]

Seagull, I really doubt Chibo (or any competent/well-known TO for that matter) would intentionally deal with setting such things up. Also, if Chibo found your post, does that mean search has been fixed? :O

lol that blog. Best comment is "wolf sucks", but unfortunately it doesn't make up for all the booty posts from 2009 :/

Yeeee.

Please don't think of that as any kind of negativity towards me, it is nothing more than a coincidence.

I did not know you had played Pwii both at Pound 5 and KTAR. In general, this isn't something you can seed by, though I understand it can be unenjoyable. If you can catch it early enough at a tournament I have control over, let me know and I can see what I can do, but no promises (I'll try though).

As for Coney and 4God, I try to be basically blind to characters as I seed. People run into bad and awkward matchups all the time, but that lies in their choice of a main, not the seeding of the TO.

Also in terms of Apex 2012, I think I worked some on the bracket, but it by far wasn't all me. The main thing I made was round 2 pools, and I had nothing at all to do with the creation of R1 pools.

I see. My apologies Mark.

 

[MegaRobMan]

I think Robby is eager to come and see me.

I'm home from Florida now, Wolfy. <3

I wanted to say Hello.

No way do we beat . And is closer to even then anything. He juggles us pretty well if he gets us in the air. A fortunate thing in the matchup is that we have a pretty long roll. is debatable. Ish would agree with your ratio. is either 60-40 or 65-35. We destroy him regardless. is even lool. Space bairs and fairs and puppy dog tails.

Austin confirmed for thirst.

Normally I drunk post at like 3 a.m. central time, that was 12:30 midnight time.

Way didn't mean to say we beat Sheik, I meant she ***** us more than you said.

The Ike thing is a joke, but it's like back when I said IC's is 90-10, it is that way until I beat two of them in tournament (or at least make Hylian not play as them).

Seagull is confirmed for thirst

Yo, I'm coming to this because Rob is my hero and now that he's under 200 pounds, I'm requestioning my sexuality, again...again

 

[CT Chia]

Yea, search appears to be working again

 

[MegaRobMan]

Yo, Chibo, quit screwing over Seagull and giving him hard brackets, or I'm gonna give you a red card so you'll be banned from further events.

 

[Ishiey]

Thank the heavens!

Reflex, here is the link to shine frame advantages.

[collapse=Don't Question JJ Wolf]Shine Frame Advantage (Greatest to Smallest)
Jiggs: 7
Lucas: 6
G&W: 6
Squirtle: 6
Pika: 6
Kirby:6
MK: 6
D3: 6
Olimar: 6
Fox: 6
Falco: 6
ZSS: 6
Pit: 6
IC: 5, 7(nana)
Mario: 5
Luigi: 5
Peach: 5
Bowser: 5
Donkey: 5
Diddy: 5
Yoshi: 5
Ness: 5
Snake: 5
Sonic: 5
Charizard: 5
Zelda: 5
Sheik: 5
Ganon: 5
TLink: 5
Link: 5
Marth: 5[[/collapse]

He still never answered me about if this was on grounded/airborne opponents though...


Also, we've apparently known about the three death CGs (D3 smallstep/ledge infinite, Wario buffered pivot dthrow, Pika buffered dthrow) for three years now. Three. Years. What the **** has our metagame been up to in all that time? Honest question, I really don't know lol

 

[MegaRobMan]

Marth has a CG to spike as well. Watched Kel mess up the edge guard this past weekend vs Lumi but he got it.

I beat future in a "MM" my Marth vs his Wolf by doing that to him 3 times lol. It was so fun.

 

[Ishiey]

Marth vs Wolf is so fun.

Unless the Marth player is really good/smart. Then it's not so fun.

Also, apparently this happened three years ago too lmfao:

Usmash OoS is absolute ****

I miss Arc

 

[MegaRobMan]

Just don't go near the ledge vs Marth at early %'s, then you want to be pushing him off the ledge after that lol. I hate marth center stage or with him applying pressure to get me off stage.

Dr. PeePee last year kinda showed me how marth can edge guard effectively but I think Wolf can recover high to the point where any character could gimp wolf the same way he would do it.

 

[Ishiey]

Man wtf there were so many cool people on the Wolf boards and they all left (and by all I mean not all lol, but enough to make a difference), I feel like JJ now. This place used to be the mother****ing coolest place ever back in the xat days and such. What happened

On topic: Marth is doody vs Wolf when he jumps for no real reason. So, most Marths are doody vs Wolf.

 

[Rizen]

^"And you cried, and you criiiiiied. It's a lie, it's aliiive. And you cried, and you cried, and you criiiiiiiied!" (inside joke)
Many forums are dead and people left . The Wolf boards are doing better than most at least :/ .

 

[tekkie]

i started a wofl combo video weeks and weeks ago but only got 2.5 minutes in before giving up forever

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ul6Qb2YLZLA

 

[Ishiey]

We are so damn lazy lol. It's good to know that some things will never change.

On mobile and pirating 3G so can't watch the vid now but I'll check it next chance I get ;D

 

[Seagull Joe]

That's pretty good Tekkie.

Yo, I'm coming to this because Rob is my hero and now that he's under 200 pounds, I'm requestioning my sexuality, again...again

 

[Player-3]

what kind of wolf combo video doesnt have combos from the best wolf in the north american continent M.C. Peepants

 

[tekkie]

what kind of wolf combo video doesnt have combos from the best wolf in the north american continent M.C. Peepants

because whobo hadnt happened yet and whobo was basically a MC peepants combo video

 

[Laem]

wolf loses to snake -2 and ics and falco -1 imo.

(omg i actually posted on the wolf boards :O)

 

[#HBC | Joker]

i started a wofl combo video weeks and weeks ago but only got 2.5 minutes in before giving up forever

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ul6Qb2YLZLA

2.5min combo vid

1min of it is filler

Be more lazy bro

 

[Seagull Joe]

wolf loses to snake -2 and ics and falco -1 imo.

(omg i actually posted on the wolf boards :O)

Nope@. I swear, all the Euro 's suck vs . I can agree with the other two.

 

[MegaRobMan]

I beat a snake at the KY tournament, first time I've beaten a snake in tournament outside of pools

Also poor auspher. Even I'm gonna hang out with Joe SEagullmanz now, pretty excited to see him tomorrow.

I'm going to steal all his tricks so I can out place him :0

 

[Deleted member]

I wanted to say Hello.

You don't say hi to me much.

And I've met Seagull, but you won't come to a tourney to meet me.

 

[MegaRobMan]

Well I tried to come to OH but you were like "Nope, in FL" and as it turns out you were in NC. When I was going to be in NC a day after you were going to be, if you said you were gonna be in NC I'd probably have figured something out.

Seagull actually made plans to come see me, not the other way around, but it's because he's MRM fan #1.

 

[Deleted member]

I was with my Mom in NC. We were driving BACK from Florida, so don't make it sound like I was lying. We couldn't meet anyway.

And you need to come to an Ohio tourney that I go to. Me and Seagull met up at a tournament(though that was in Pittsburgh).

Oh well...I'm a boring person anyway..

 

[rsr2]

Off to GenCon! Just hope I don't get into a car accident and continue the wofl curse ^ _ ^

 

[Seagull Joe]

I was with my Mom in NC. We were driving BACK from Florida, so don't make it sound like I was lying. We couldn't meet anyway.

And you need to come to an Ohio tourney that I go to. Me and Seagull met up at a tournament(though that was in Pittsburgh).

Oh well...I'm a boring person anyway..

You're lol. Just a shy guy.

Well I tried to come to OH but you were like "Nope, in FL" and as it turns out you were in NC. When I was going to be in NC a day after you were going to be, if you said you were gonna be in NC I'd probably have figured something out.

Seagull actually made plans to come see me, not the other way around, but it's because he's MRM fan #1.

 

[DeLux]

Why does everyone keep saying we lose to ICs when it's +1 in our favor at least?

 

[Laem]

^ Hush, you think IC's are like the 15th best character

@ Gull, didn't ramin's snake give you a beating?
..but to be more fair, beaten any good snakes recently then? Not like some snake that gets 17th in MDVA tourneys

 

[KRDsonic]

Only Wofls I've met in person are Kalo, Ojih, Loko, and Gah. I need to change that some day.

 

[Seagull Joe]

^ Hush, you think IC's are like the 15th best character

@ Gull, didn't ramin's snake give you a beating?
..but to be more fair, beaten any good snakes recently then? Not like some snake that gets 17th in MDVA tourneys

2 stock on halberd. I didn't realize he'd go on halberd, which is kinda annoying to fight on. Wish I fought it on a neutral, Delfino, or CS. My fault for forgetting he had a .

Haven't played a in my region in awhile. Last time I played Takeover I wrecked his . And before that I took MVD to game 3, but couldn't clutch it out on Frigate game 3.

 

[Ishiey]

That combo vid was like, half filler, and half shine gimps lmfao. Still beautiful though <3

All the Wofls should go to WABA. Or APEX. Or something else that I'm already going to because I'm the laziest of lazy Wofls.

DeLux, it's because Brinstar and RC are leaving our stagelists

 

[Rizen]

it's because Brinstar and RC are leaving our stagelists

Why?!
tenchar

 

[Ishiey]

I wish I knew... maybe to make space for Japes?

 

[Rizen]

^I wish that were true but...

...

Brin and RC... gone.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=Gb4eZ7Z5yk8#t=16s

 

[Deleted member]

Add in Norfair.

Good lord, the community is so terrible at dealing with stages these days.

 

[Rizen]

What gets to me is stages that are strait forward have immunity just because that but many characters like terrain and they're ignored more. vs Falco on FD is one of the hardest games for many characters but FD's a starter.
If you don't include MK (who wrecks many CPs and got Norfair banned ) then legal CPs are no worse for the characters who don't like them than vs Falco on FD for characters who don't like that. The whole point of the CP system is to find a bad stage for the opponent.
Like someone said, this is why ICs are ranked so high. They're good too, of course.

If Brin and Norfair were the only stages and MK was banned, in the magical world of make-believe, think how different the character rankings would be. I'm not saying that's a good plan, just hypothetical food for thought.

 

[MegaRobMan]

I like small stage lists.