I don't want to be insulting or be rude but sometimes I feel people are simply ******** or blinded so bad because they want to defend a game they like I guess because it has their favorites character, or in this game they can win and lets face it... we are all Nintendo Fanboys.
But this game will play very, very , very similar to brawl. There is no denying it.. It could even be worse because of some really really bad game design call from Sakurai.
So instead of talking blah blah blah like some people in this thread about 2nd or 3rd hit stun stage -.-
Ill go with facts... First look at this video
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VmDkNkNPWYY
So as you can see you can avoid the landing lag of the airdodge
Also you can cancel hit stun with airdodge, don't try to be blind and go to specifics that really don't matter... again let me educate you with proof
https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=PSYwAf_BXgc#t=410 DOUBLE AIR DODGE FTW
Here is another and you can see them baiting air dodge but still it doesn't matter... and these are not noobs these are good brawl players
https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=PSYwAf_BXgc#t=456
Now don't get me wrong I think (and it is what I have seen) that maybe the timing to DI and airdodge is more strict in this game hence why you see some combos ( usually d throw to a follow up aerial in low or 0% ) but these cant be really called "combos"...
I love and laugh when I see a smash 4 tournament and its like the commentators are begging for a bit of action that when a "combo"happens they freak out and get hype. The funny thing is the combo most likely is Dthrow + 2 aerials... or uptilt + uptilt + to an aerial... haha lame.
now to finish here is another video analysis I liked a lot I don't know whether what he says its true or not but to me makes a lot of sense. I am amazed it only has 43 views. The first part f the review is about the game in a very casual way so it might not be what we are looking for.. but the rest of the video I think he is on point and very neutral when he makes the review. Please watch the link it is set to begin when the important part of the review happens.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u6lZa9j9qso#t=824
I believe smash 4 has the potential to be a better competitive game than brawl was. but as what it stands now it has two awful game design choices that make brawl look better sometimes.
First is the edge game, while sakurai removed the ability to plank (kudos to him) and he also removed gliding and super crazy up b recoveries he made a bad choice with the edgehog design. Yes in this game you can edguard and hit oponents similar to melee and 64 in the edgegame, but it doesn't matter because when you want to gimp them by EDGEHOG you canttt!! so what happes, you end up living more than in brawl... you hear that more than in brawl. 200% and still living.
Matches of 2 stock that takes 5-6 mins and ends up in time over...!! Bad bad bad game design.
The good news is, all these can be fixed in an update from Nintendo, but there is another problem.. Different to the Capcom and Namco Community, the Nintendo fan community feel the must take it easy with Nintendo and not complain because we might scare them... Get real people, the reason USF4 and all the updates Street Fighter has got is because the community gave feedback and criticized the game that guess what we all are paying for. We are consumers and we have rights, so we should let them know.
If they update the game and fixed some bad call I think smash 4 will be a great awesome competitive game
Add more hitstun
give back the ability to edge hog
Make roll slower
Make the % like in previous smash games.
PLEASE WATCH THE VID BEFORE REPLYING