WI Thread

[#HBC | Red Ryu]

Abyss Sync?

Or am I thinking of someone else from Tales?

 

[Sync99]

You got it. Sync the Tempest!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RR-rEM8xL4s

(An old video that I recently posted)

Yay for my post count!

 

[TemPesT-]

i'm the real tempest

 

[Sync99]

fine but i still get "sync" and "the".

Hey Mundungu and Spikes...you might wanna check to see if something unfortunate may have happened to your leaderboards on Forest Dark World Who says I don't do speedruns? 1st place among my Steam friends in all 20 baby!

 

[john!]

1st place among my Steam friends in all 20 baby!

i will be changing this once i feel like playing meat boy again

 

[Sync99]

Are you coming to Quinkfest tomorrow?

 

[sanchaz]

fine but i still get "sync" and "the".

Hey Mundungu and Spikes...you might wanna check to see if something unfortunate may have happened to your leaderboards on Forest Dark World Who says I don't do speedruns? 1st place among my Steam friends in all 20 baby!

nobody cares about that chapter, lol, its all about chapter 6.

 

[john!]

nobody cares about that chapter, lol, its all about chapter 6.

that's like 5 stages lol, i got dead boy before i got salt boy, it's easy

 

[eighteenspikes]

fine but i still get "sync" and "the".

Hey Mundungu and Spikes...you might wanna check to see if something unfortunate may have happened to your leaderboards on Forest Dark World Who says I don't do speedruns? 1st place among my Steam friends in all 20 baby!

who says i play that ****ty game anymore lol. besides, all of my times besides the like 2 i posted on youtube were just enough effort to beat my friends during the week i played

 

[Mundungu]

no death can be ruined by one little mistake at the end, which is a recipe for rage

I completely agree with this. Speedrunning is so fun / not rage enducing.

But yeah, I deserve Sync the most considering I can draw/sketch him, I can beat him on Unknown no damage with one character, I went as him for halloween, and I can quote him in both english and japanese. Not to mention I wrote his biography on Tales Wiki.

Yea, but you have every quote memorized. Like literally every quote.

Who all is going to Quink's house tomorrow? Anyone from madison?

 

[Sync.]

My fellow Sync I'm named after the Abyss one too! But I think I just got ***** you are forever the Synciest Sync but whoever calls us "sinks" needs to be stuck in a never ending turbulence.

:D

 

[sanchaz]

Mundungu/exarch: me and frank are for sure going, I'll try to get a hold of john and that one guy that plays jigglypuff

Project M ftw!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jVc4ucGBmd0&feature=related

 

[Mundungu]

How late do you guys want to stay? I might drive seperate from Exarch depending on how long I want to stay there.

 

[Sync99]

nobody cares about that chapter, lol, its all about chapter 6.

Good luck beating my 6-3X record HAH!

 

[Sync99]

My fellow Sync I'm named after the Abyss one too! But I think I just got ***** you are forever the Synciest Sync but whoever calls us "sinks" needs to be stuck in a never ending turbulence.

:D

That would be Culver's. And screw that I'm gonna Harrowing Gale his ***.

 

[eighteenspikes]

Good luck beating my 6-3X record HAH!

I logged in to see what all the fuss was about. Your time wasn't even top 100 man!

 

[Oro?!]

Rofl, goods hit Spikes.

 

[Dragmire]

lol, spikes so strong

 

[Quaz]

actually I think sync's having trouble getting his times uploaded properly.

 

[genkaku]

I thought quinkfest was next week.

I played P:M for a bit. To be honest, until the full roster is up/small mechanics are fixed, I'd rather be playing melee. Taunt canceling and the stage list is nice and all, but...

 

[Quaz]

I can;'t wait for charizard ^^

 

[sanchaz]

:D oh sink, what was that again, try to beat your time, get trashed by spikes, and he doesn't even like this game, try hard.

quote of the week: "if you get hit by a banana, you fall."

Project M is the next awesome game, tauntcanceling!!!!!!!! to dropzone suicide.

ummm, I think I'm about to go ballistic, can you play project M online?

 

[Quaz]

im pretty sure you can as long as both players have the same version

but there will always be lag meaning tech skill would be difficult.

 

[Oro?!]

Not like Sanchaz has any so he should be fine in that department.

 

[eighteenspikes]

fine but i still get "sync" and "the".

Hey Mundungu and Spikes...you might wanna check to see if something unfortunate may have happened to your leaderboards on Forest Dark World Who says I don't do speedruns? 1st place among my Steam friends in all 20 baby!

I hope you didn't think I tried on those, half my times weren't even top 10,000 haha. I just wanted the A+ back then. Well whatever, it's Sunday and I was bored:

Spoiler

 

[Oro?!]

Spikes on that Got em' status.

 

[#HBC | Red Ryu]

I'll make a blog about what I thought about Project M later, but yeah I pretty much share how Genkaku felt about it.

Oh and Snake is terrible, maybe he does need some learning but I felt like he was far below everyone else in the demo.

 

[Xtra]

anyone able to make it to fondy either wed. thur. or fri.?

 

[chansen]

maybe if nick will take me...

 

[shanus]

I'll make a blog about what I thought about Project M later, but yeah I pretty much share how Genkaku felt about it.

Oh and Snake is terrible, maybe he does need some learning but I felt like he was far below everyone else in the demo.

Snake has a much higher learning curve:

http://www.wired.com/gamelife/2011/02/project-m/

scroll down halfway through page for video

 

[#HBC | Red Ryu]

Do you name search Project M Shanus?

Still with Snake, he could maybe plant C4 on people but even then it felt like his overall move-set was sub par compared to the others. Not so much grenade camping and tilts, tilts needed to be nerfed either way, it just didn't hold up as well.

 

[Revven]

You really need to give the character time, he takes a lot more time to learn than anyone else because of how drastically different he plays from his vBrawl incarnation. He only has any real trouble against spacies, otherwise he plays really well against most characters if you know what you're doing (which it sounds like you don't). There's a purpose for every tilt they weren't "nerfed" they were made to function with his new playstyle, take advantage of them. Don't try to do anything you know how to do from vBrawl, that doesn't apply for Snake at all here.

If you think he's not good maybe you shouldn't consider playing him and see what other people do with him to convince you otherwise.

*Midwest region boards, I lurk*

 

[#HBC | Red Ryu]

It's more so the feeling I got when I tried playing with him and against him in Project M.

And yeah playing him is not high on my list, Link and Falco are far higher.

 

[Xtra]

maybe if nick will take me...

u'r not even gonna ask r u? i JUST payed off over 4k in debt. so im little broke right now. i know u guys have fests on thrusdays in madtown? if i fork out that $20 in gas i'll be hurtin for a couple days. plus if im comming to mad town, i'd love to hit the casino. no funds for that now. it sucks i have to drive 80 miles just for a few hours of a video game i never play FML. i was kinda hoping there would be a bit more interest and maybe i could pick one of those days to try to round up the crew around here and make a fest of it. anyone who wanted to spend the night could. oh well

 

[shanus]

Do you name search Project M Shanus?

Still with Snake, he could maybe plant C4 on people but even then it felt like his overall move-set was sub par compared to the others. Not so much grenade camping and tilts, tilts needed to be nerfed either way, it just didn't hold up as well.

I have been more so as of late as I like to try and get a feel for what people have thought of the demo. That, and a lot of misinformation on certain stuff gets spread, so I like to correct stuff on it. here is a pretty good example: http://www.smashboards.com/showpost.php?p=12182162&postcount=32218

Re; Snake

It's more a matter of spacing, you can think of using mine's as a spacing tool like ROBs gyro that you can set up into with throws as well for kills. Then you can use tilts and short fuse nades to pressure inwards till you can use the high hitlag ftilt or dair to set up a sticky and then use his really solid throws to set up a detonation c4 kill. He isn't standard play at all, and thats why people think he is subpar until people learn his style.

 

[Quaz]

I actually like Snake so far and will be using him more =)

 

[exarch]

I actually played almost exclusively snake during the fest, and absolutely agree that he's a different character than has ever existed in smash brothers before, which is awesome.

But there are a two things which leave me scratching my head:
The fsmash knockback is severely nerfed, but the animation is still the same. I think the number one thing I complained about when playing the game initially was that jab reset to fsmash doesn't work with snake. It wouldn't kill anyway due to the knockback decrease, but it could be used to setup early edgeguards. At higher percents when it would kill, snake isn't going to have an easy time getting jab resets. If PMBR is really against speeding the move up, then it certainly wouldn't break him to make it stronger, you're getting hit with a ****ing mortar for goodness sake. It's so slow it's not difficult to avoid, unless you're recovering in which case the diminished knockback will probably kill you anyway.

The other thing which really irked me was that his dair did not "antispike" a grounded opponent, at least from what I saw. I know he can C4 grounded opponents, but that requires them to miss the tech, or to be slow about the getup. If they were antispiked in stun, he could still C4 them and potentially get combos off of it too. I think it's the only spiking move that doesn't antispike grounded opponents, which is counterintuitive to the entire series to this point. (Antispike is the perfectly vertical trajectory you take when getting hit by moves like CF or Ganon's dair on the ground.) Of course this could be due to it being a multihit move, the second to last hit antispiking and the last one putting them back on the ground... *shrug*

Anyway if you read all of that that's awesome, but I was incredibly impressed with the overall quality of the demo, shanus. Seriously immaculate job so far.

 

[FrootLoop]

exarch you're doing it wrong. He said he namesearches "Project M", which you failed to mention. So he won't come back. Don't worry, I covered for you this time.

 

[shanus]

I actually played almost exclusively snake during the fest, and absolutely agree that he's a different character than has ever existed in smash brothers before, which is awesome.

But there are a two things which leave me scratching my head:
The fsmash knockback is severely nerfed, but the animation is still the same. I think the number one thing I complained about when playing the game initially was that jab reset to fsmash doesn't work with snake. It wouldn't kill anyway due to the knockback decrease, but it could be used to setup early edgeguards. At higher percents when it would kill, snake isn't going to have an easy time getting jab resets. If PMBR is really against speeding the move up, then it certainly wouldn't break him to make it stronger, you're getting hit with a ****ing mortar for goodness sake. It's so slow it's not difficult to avoid, unless you're recovering in which case the diminished knockback will probably kill you anyway.

The other thing which really irked me was that his dair did not "antispike" a grounded opponent, at least from what I saw. I know he can C4 grounded opponents, but that requires them to miss the tech, or to be slow about the getup. If they were antispiked in stun, he could still C4 them and potentially get combos off of it too. I think it's the only spiking move that doesn't antispike grounded opponents, which is counterintuitive to the entire series to this point. (Antispike is the perfectly vertical trajectory you take when getting hit by moves like CF or Ganon's dair on the ground.) Of course this could be due to it being a multihit move, the second to last hit antispiking and the last one putting them back on the ground... *shrug*

Anyway if you read all of that that's awesome, but I was incredibly impressed with the overall quality of the demo, shanus. Seriously immaculate job so far.

That's a good point on the antispike. I think the purpose of it is that your meant to actually FF the linking hits (which have notoriously higher hitlag) to set-up a stick. Maybe we can make the final hit into a reverse spike on grounded opponents to compensate?

 

[sanchaz]

I thought snake had a similar feeling to peach.

ROFL ducking under the lazors, falco snake is going to be hilarious.