Why Sheik will Return

[kin3tic-c4jun-3]

I have no argument against that, in fact I hope that's the case.

BTW you people need to get over my negativeness, it's not going to change.

I don't know where you've been, but there's little left to discover about Samus/ZSS transformation.

It's more that you're comparing to a totally different character. We have yet to see, is all.

Lame as in she's a PRINCESS, that's why I said I'm not a fan.

I am a big fan though, of princess fighters who transform into ninjas...

 

[SiD]

I have no argument against that, in fact I hope that's the case.

BTW you people need to get over my negativeness, it's not going to change.

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-_-

*ignores*

 

[vesperview]

because she's awesome.

Opinion.

But just becuase Zelda has her TP design doesnt mean shes limited from her OoT moves.

Those moves are not even Zelda's, Twilight Princess is taking precedence over OoT in every way in Brawl, that could also include characters, if Ganondorf get updated with his Twilight Princess design that will be the nail to the coffin for Sheik.

Also many people say she was just in one game, and this doesnt fit in the continuity

That's why Midna should be in Brawl.

Since when is Smash based on continuity, and Lucas and Pit were only in one game(btw Technically Sheik was in Two. )

Technically? yeah, Melee doesn't count and Lucas and Pit were the leads of their games, so they're terrible examples.

P.S.
I know just cause I stated some facts doesnt mean this is for certain, if anything it just means it possible.

Facts? Yeah right.

 

[SiD]

Midna? No, no way Midna deserves to be in more than Shiek. Get that **** out of here.

 

[vesperview]

Midna? No, no way Midna deserves to be in more than Shiek. Get that **** out of here.

and according to you what makes Sheik more important than Midna?

 

[kin3tic-c4jun-3]

Awesome how people just ignore what they don't like. Says something about their personality. Oh well, keep living in your fantasy worlds, I really don't care

Those moves are not even Zelda's, Twilight Princess is taking precedence over OoT in every way in Brawl, that could also include characters, if Ganondorf get updated with his Twilight Princess design that will be the nail to the coffin for Sheik.

But Sheikah literature/buildings/people STILL exist in TP. Zelda is seen wearing a cloak with the Sheikah symbol.

That's why Midna should be in Brawl.

As opposed to Sheik? Dear God.

and according to you what makes Sheik more important than Midna?

Don't even start. It's simply:

A ninja compared to an imp.

I don't care what YOU particularily perfer, but I'll tell you that the majority perfers a ninja.

 

[SiD]

and according to you what makes Sheik more important than Midna?

Frankly, since they've both only been in one game and both were pretty important in said game (admittedly Midna moreso than Shiek), Shiek really deserves to be in Brawl more than Midna for the simple fact that she has already been in Melee.

 

[vesperview]

But Sheikah literature/buildings/people STILL exist in TP. Zelda is seen wearing a cloak with the Sheikah symbol.

That has nothing to do with Sheik in Brawl.

As opposed to Sheik? Dear God.

Still no one answers me why Sheik is more deserving.

Frankly, since they've both only been in one game and both were pretty important in said game (admittedly Midna moreso than Shiek), Shiek really deserves to be in Brawl more than Midna for the simple fact that she has already been in Melee.

You could've said the same thing for Ness and look what happened, that's not reason enough.

 

[SiD]

That has nothing to do with Sheik in Brawl.



Still no one answers me why Sheik is more deserving.



You could've said the same thing for Ness and look what happened, that's not reason enough.

Ness is different, unless you're saying we should give Midna Shiek's moveset.

 

[kin3tic-c4jun-3]

That has nothing to do with Sheik in Brawl.

No, it means that continuity (which you were just arguing) isn't an issue, you arrogant infidel.

 

[Drake3]

Ness is different, unless you're saying we should give Midna Shiek's moveset.

I'm totally up for that >_>

 

[vesperview]

Ness is different, unless you're saying we should give Midna Shiek's moveset.

No, it means that having appeared in one Smash game still doesn't make them more important to their franchise or unable to be cut.

 

[Iris]

At least Midna could get a moveset that was, you know, not totally BSed. ;o

 

[SiD]

No, it means that having appeared in one Smash game still doesn't make them more important to their franchise.

I said more deserving to be in Brawl dude, not more important to their franchise.

 

[vesperview]

I said more deserving to be in Brawl dude, not more important to their franchise.

Again having appeared in Melee doesn't make them more deserving to be in Brawl.

 

[SiD]

Again having appeared in Melee doesn't make them more deserving to be in Brawl.

Yes it does.

 

[kin3tic-c4jun-3]

Still no one answers me why Sheik is more deserving.

Shiek is a Ninja. That's as valid a reson as any.

 

[SiD]

Shiek is a Ninja. That's as valid a reson as any.

No it isn't.

 

[vesperview]

Yes it does.

No it doesn't, otherwise Sakurai wouldn't even be considering removing characters.

 

[Iris]

It'll be a shame if Zelda only gets 3 reps and neither Midna or Sheik get in.

 

[vesperview]

It'll be a shame if Zelda only gets 3 reps.

That doesn't mean the 4th rep should be Sheik.

 

[SiD]

No it doesn't, otherwise Sakurai wouldn't even be considering removing characters.

If your not going to read what I said, stop arguing with me. I was purley talking about Shiek VS Midna. Since both have only been in one Zelda game, both were important in said games, Shiek is more deserving since she was in Melee, since she has a moveset already. So, unlesss you want Midna to take over Shiek's moves, which would be stupid, Shiek is more deserving.

 

[vesperview]

If your not going to read what I said, stop arguing with me. I was purley talking about Shiek VS Midna. Since both have only been in one Zelda game, both were important in said games, Shiek is more deserving since she was in Melee, since she has a moveset already. So, unlesss you want Midna to take over Shiek's moves, which would be stupid, Shiek is more deserving.

No, you're just reaching out for fan made arguments to support Sheik, having been in Melee has nothing to do with Sheik being in Brawl, Midna is more important to Twilight Princess than Sheik was to OoT, Twilight Princess is taking precedence over OoT in Brawl, there's really no good reason for Sheik to stay.

 

[SiD]

No, you're just reaching out for fan made arguments to support Sheik, having been in Melee has nothing to do with Sheik being in Brawl, Midna is more important to Twilight Princess than Sheik was to OoT, Twilight Princess is taking precedence over OoT in Brawl, there's really no good reason for Sheik to stay.

Yes, there is. Shiek has fans, she has a moveset, putting her in Brawl would be way easier than adding a new character, plus they could still add Midna and have Shiek return. There is really NO REASON WHATSOEVER TO REMOVE SHIEK AS A PLAYBLE CHARACTER. Be it as a transformation as separate, I don't really care.

 

[Iris]

I don't know. I think Sheik's moveset is more important to SSB than the character herself. I'd rather see it recycled towards a non-Zelda rep and make Midna playable if they don't have enough room for Zelda reps. Everybody's a winner.

 

[Sandwich]

I prefer Shiek as an AT or trophy. I doubt she will be playable at all, however.

 

[vesperview]

Yes, there is. Shiek has fans, she has a moveset, putting her in Brawl would be way easier than adding a new character, plus they could still add Midna and have Shiek return. There is really NO REASON WHATSOEVER TO REMOVE SHIEK AS A PLAYBLE CHARACTER. Be it as a transformation as separate, I don't really care.

Midna has way more moveset possibilities than Sheik and the fact that Sheik may never be in another Zelda game again is enough reason to take away her spotlight and give it to a new character from the Zelda series, Sheik shouldn't be in Brawl if there isn't a more suitable Zelda rep like Midna or Vaati too, Sheik would be on same ground with Skull Kid if she hadn't been in Melee, which is, small Zelda character with a cult following, Sheik has nothing going for her, her moveset is as made up as Captain Falcon's

 

[kin3tic-c4jun-3]

vesperview, explain to me why then there's an OoT medley and not a TP medley. Explain to me why it would be unreasonable for the TP Zelda to use a "Sheik" ego when the tradition is still clearly active.

And enough about Midna. I can tell from your sig roster there that you're either 8 or a sheldered, sad man. I mean, I love talking, blue fox-ladies too, but more than that I like grown-up things in fighting games. Y'know? Like ninjas??

 

[KirbyForAll]

wouldn't Nintendo have revealed Sheik when they revealed Zelda? i mean, what could they be hiding

 

[vesperview]

vesperview, explain to me why then there's an OoT medley and not a TP medley. Explain to me why it would be unreasonable for the TP Zelda to use a "Sheik" ego when the tradition is still clearly active.

Because you're allowed to put ANY song on a stage this time around, just because there is an OoT song, doesn't mean that Sheik is returning.

And enough about Midna. I can tell from your sig roster there that you're either 8 or a sheldered, sad man. I mean, I love talking, blue fox-ladies too, but I like grown-up things in fighting games. Y'know? Like ninjas??

Nice comeback troll.[/sarcasm] Stop bashing my sig to support Sheik is pathetic.

 

[SiD]

Midna has way more moveset possibilities than Sheik and the fact that Sheik may never be in another Zelda game again is enough reason to take away her spotlight and give it to a new character from the Zelda series, Sheik shouldn't be in Brawl if there isn't a more suitable Zelda rep like Midna or Vaati too, Sheik would be on same ground with Skull Kid if she hadn't been in Melee, which is, small Zelda character with a cult following, Sheik has nothing going for her, her moveset is as made up as Captain Falcon's

So basically, you're a Midna fanboy that thinks that Shiek returning lowers the already low chances that Midna will be in.

Well, let me inform you something. If Midna is in at all, that in no way means that Shiek can't also be in, and vice versa. So stop being so defensive.



Also, although me and kin3tic-c4jun-3 are on the same side, I in no way want to be associated with his dumb ***.

 

[vesperview]

So basically, you're a Midna fanboy that thinks that Shiek returning lowers the already low chances that Midna will be in.

Well, let me inform you something. If Midna is in at all, that in no way means that Shiek can't also be in, and vice versa. So stop being so defensive.

You're on same grounds with Sheik as I am with Midna, so I can see the irony in your statement.

 

[Drake3]

SiD, out of everything we know from Lucas, the only move he kept from Ness was PK Thunder. PSI Magnet, PK Fire, and PK Flash have changed qualities. The attacks and grabs we've seen Lucas use have also changed. It honestly looks like they've created a new character from scratch and gave him some recycled moves.

Not that it matters anymore because the topic jumped 2 pages, but it doesn't really seem like Sora cares if a character had a moveset before.

 

[kin3tic-c4jun-3]

Because you're allowed to put ANY song on a stage this time around, just because there is an OoT song, doesn't mean that Sheik is returning.

How do you know there isn't an OoT themed level?

Also, although me and kin3tic-c4jun-3 are on the same side, I in no way want to be associated with his dumb ***.

I understand completely.

 

[vesperview]

How do you know there isn't an OoT themed level?

How do you know there is?

 

[SiD]

You're on same grounds with Sheik as I am with Midna, so I can see the irony in your statement.

Um, no I'm not, I just don't like Midna. But I'm not going into a Midna thread saying "Midna won't be in, there's no reason for it. They're gonna put Shiek in instead."

You are.

 

[kin3tic-c4jun-3]

How do you know there is?

Exactly, you arrogant, contradicting infidel.

Um, no I'm not, I just don't like Midna. But I'm not going into a Midna thread saying "Midna won't be in, there's no reason for it. They're gonna put Shiek in instead."

You are.

Learn from this wisdom.

 

[vesperview]

Exactly, you arrogant, contradicting infidel.

So, why don't you explain to me how an OoT medley raises Sheik's chances? huh? They could put an OoT related stage that doesn't mean Sheik will be in Brawl.

Um, no I'm not, I just don't like Midna. But I'm not going into a Midna thread saying "Midna won't be in, there's no reason for it. They're gonna put Shiek in instead."

You are.

Cause Sheik doesn't have as much good arguments to her favor as Midna does, that's why you don't do it.

 

[Iris]

If anything, an OoT medley says "let's combine all of it and that'll be the only track related to OoT" rather than "this level will be Saria's song with an alternate of Epona's theme, and this one will be Hyrule Field with Song of Storms as an alternate." Consolidated representation? It's more likely than you think.

Explain why there's a TP stage and not an OoT stage. Or perhaps explain how a simple symbol on a cloak, a multi-purpose symbol in OoT, guarantees that the Sheikah tradition exists in TP and is practiced by Zelda.

 

[SiD]

So, why don't you explain to me how an OoT medley raises Sheik's chances? huh? They could put an OoT related stage that doesn't mean Sheik will be in Brawl.



Cause Sheik doesn't have as much good arguments to her favor as Midna does, that's why you don't do it.

Yes, she does. You pretty much are refusing to listen to them.

Also, explain to me why having TP related stuff lowers her chances then.