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Why Gay Pride Sucks

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Flamboyancy can be like a huge sign over your head that tells haters "hey guys im gay, come beat me up". anyone that hates on gays cuz they like d*** is a d*** themselves
 

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Incredible blog, firstly. I commend you for your attitude and your honesty.

This is the most important thing you said IMHO:

Members of the gay “community” largely treat each other as objects. They segregate themselves, socializing mostly among only other gay people. They think that being homosexual is about more than a sexual or emotional attraction to the same sex; to much of the homosexual community, it is their identity, their life. And that identity is flamboyant acts amounting only to a need for attention; the culture is one of over-the-top glam, no-strings sex, clubbing, partying, and drugs.
Indeed the gay community (and going forward this will encompass Gay Americans from the late 40's onward) endured much hardship. Having been privileged to study G+L literature under a professor who was AT the Stonewall when the Riots took place I learned first hand the details of the struggle facing gays at that time. It's no doubt ironic that such stereotypes as hyper-sexuality, miscreants, deviants, druggies, etc etc were the fodder used to bash gays, and yet the gay community today almost tries to outlive, outperform that image.

About flamboyance, well... they're gay, lol. Any oppressed people will take at least one thing to make it their own, so as to Signify if you will, a demonstrative point to which they can identify, and be identified. Ex-slaves took the slang word -N- and changed it to *****, a term of endearment. This made a word of hate used -against- them, into a work FOR them, and only them to use (until much later when the hip-hop revolution crossed the racial gap). So yes, though Gay Pride parades seem, well, ***gy, they're as such to prove a point (and it's not we're here we're queer) but more, its a celebration of achievement. The Stonewall Riots WERE an achievement, and there IS something to be proud of in it.

The difficulty is you have to realize that with gayness comes a certain credential. Take, the Ramrod gay bar in Boston, MA. Really though? RAMROD? I mean c'mon how gay is that? Totally gay! But ... duh. It's a GAY BAR, lol it's going to have a gay name because they don't want any misunderstandings, if you in there, you gay.

It boils down to lines being blurred, and for individuals struggling to find their place in a world of semi-tolerance. You'll have your flaming queers. You'll have "normal" gays as someone alluded to earlier, which is in itself an interesting viewpoint though potentially offensive. There's people you'd never know were gay, and not cause they're in the closet, but because they don't wish to broadcast their sexuality for the world to see. Gays are a special breed of community, they absolutely have a rich and diverse population. But one thing all gays have in common: they owe their freedoms (at least in America) to the people at Stonewall and the organizations that sprung up shortly after. The first gay pride parade, things of this nature.

And of course, as El Nino so well put, it's far from over. Why just here in Mississippi a poor girl and her date to the prom were totally punked. When things like this are totally abolished the gay community can rest easier. But until then, until gay rights are fully realized, the struggle will continue, and so too will the pride parades, so that 1 weekend a year, the world can be reminded that there is a giant community of people who still do not enjoy the freedom they deserve.
 

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Looking back, I think I missed a few key points. I'm too used to talking politics the way some people talk weather and I tend to overlook certain important details.

I think if anyone here is critical of pride events and has never been to one, I hope you can make it out to one someday just to see what it's like. For the most part, it's all really pretty benign and not as scary as some of you might have imagined it to be. Who knows, you might even have fun.

I know a lot of people here and irl say that they are comfortable with themselves and that they don't need pride. That's fine, but I don't see why they feel the need to come down hard on other people who are just acting out as part of a celebration. It seems to me that if you are comfortable with yourself, you wouldn't have any reason to be concerned with how someone else dresses in public, unless you are overtly concerned with how other people judge you based on someone else's actions, in which case it seems that a part of you might still feel threatened by public perception, and maybe you're not completely over it yet.

I know that the media likes to put the spotlight on the parades, but the people in the streets do eventually take off their costumes and go home and are pretty much normal the rest of the time. And since we live in the digital age and user-generated media is gaining ground, I think we all have a lot more resources at our disposal to use to represent ourselves in whatever way we want. There's no reason to be too critical of someone else's personal expression in cases like these, I feel. You can be you, and they can be themselves, and you can't represent them anymore than they can represent you.

Not to mention that for pride parades and other events, it's all just a stage. People don't travel long distances and gather together for just a stroll through the park. Normally, they want to see a show. And the organizers try to deliver on that.

It's because of nonsense like this that social progress has always been painfully slower than technological progress.
I think I've mentioned somewhere before that you can shout at a schizophrenic for as along as you want and tell him that the voices in his head are not divine powers. It's not going to work because he, due to the chemicals in the brain, hears those voices as if they were real. It doesn't matter that you can't hear them; he can. So, to approach the situation and handle it, you have to take into account where he's coming from. Maybe you need to calm him down, call a shrink and get him on some meds before you try to do anything else with him.

You ever wonder why technological progress doesn't solve the world's problems? A lot of scientists seem to think in that way. They're not all wrong, but you can't ignore the other forces at work in the world when you're trying to implement a game plan. Things like cultural upbringing and psychology do exert pressure on individuals and societies, and they do matter.

I think if humanity existed in a vacuum and if we could isolate all the variables from a situation before proceeding, you would probably be 100% correct in your approach. Unfortunately, I don't think that's possible.

until gay rights are fully realized, the struggle will continue, and so too will the pride parades, so that 1 weekend a year, the world can be reminded that there is a giant community of people who still do not enjoy the freedom they deserve.
On that note, the Fourth of July holiday is coming up in the US. People don't generally get together to discuss history or the current state of the union. Normally it's all BBQs and fireworks. I don't see anything wrong with that, actually. People just like celebrating. It's an excuse to get together and cook and wear stupid hats and gather in an open to field to watch some bright shiny things explode in the sky. Doing silly festive things just for the sake of it isn't a gay thing. It's just kind of a people thing.

I may not even support the politics of the US at times, but I tend to just say that a celebrations is just a commemoration. It is more or less what you make of it.
 

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If you're good looking you can get anyone you want..

Girls don't work like that, IT'S A GIFT.
 

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I completely agree with this blog post.

It's OK to be gay but when people put themselves on display like they do at pride parades that's where more divisions, stereotypes and unwanted attention are created. I love it when one of my gay friends complains about being treated like a flaming queen when he is the first person to take off his shirt at the sight of a rainbow flag.

I support the homosexual causes (marriage, adoption and all that jazz) and treat you as equals (we're all humans) but at Pride parades it's like the gay community doesn't want that.
 

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I completely agree with this blog.

I've always wondered why other gay people would want to contradict their own goals by preforming these elaborate parades and events.
I'm gay but that is not all that I am.
 

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i live in philadelphia, so ive seen a few of those gay pride parades......and it seems like most of the people that attend are dressed pretty average, save for a special necklace or whatever. its just that the flamboyant dudes get more attention cause theyre...well, flamboyant.
 

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To be fair, the whole point of the parade is to get numbers imo.

I mean, that's the only reason I went once.

Lol.
 
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