Why doesn't X pokemon get Y attack/ability/typing?

[Terywj [태리]]

Brine is essentially salt water. Used in preserving foods and stuff. Oh, and in Battle Revolution, it looks basically like the user just jetting out a stream of water.

For some reason, I can associate Hariyama and Makuhita with salt (probably because of SmellingSalt), but I've no idea how salty water would figure into that.

Hariama sweats, alot.

Oh. Well there you go. Thanks!

 

[E123-omega]

Now all we need is a projectile vomiting move.

EDIT: Gastro acid

 

[Terywj [태리]]

Now all we need is a projectile vomiting move.

EDIT: Gastro acid

Gastro Acid doesn't actually do damage though, does it? I recall it had something to do with affecting the targets ability or something.

 

[rockem7]

Gastro Acid just nullifies the opponents ability, yes.

 

[Terywj [태리]]

There should be a similar move where the chance of causing regular poison is say, 50% while the chance of causing Toxic poisoning is say, 10%. That would be a pretty unique Poison-type move.

 

[E123-omega]

Why can't Pelipper learn T-bolt? He already knows shock wave, but STAB surf does more damage on flying types.

 

[0RLY]

@ above: Because Game Freak wanted more 'early game' Pokemon to learn the Gym Leader TM moves. Shock Wave is likely for opposing Water types, not Flying.

Do you mean Hitmonlee would lose 75% of his current health? Or that he would take 75% of the damage that would have been done?

Either way, I'd still be using Close Combat.

Hitmonchan's Iron Fist needs a serious buff. Like x1.5 instead of x1.2

I thnk Wingull not being able to learn Surf is similar to how Zubat or Golbat can't learn Fly. Their final evolution stage Crobat can learn Fly, like how Pelipper can learn Surf.

Zubat and Golbat can both Fly, according to serebii.

 

[E123-omega]

@ above:
STAB Surf: 95 * 1.5 = 142.5
S/E T-bolt: 95 * 2 = 190
I have no idea how you reached your conclusion.

Not T-bolt, shock wave.


STAB Surf 95 *1.5 =142.5
Super effective Shock wave 60 *2 = 120

 

[shadow1moon]

Why cant Glidgar and its evolved form learn fly?

ITs flying.... So whats the reason they cant?!?!

 

[Terywj [태리]]

Gligar and Gliscor are both part Flying-type and have been seen gliding in the anime. Perhaps the gliding reason is why?

 

[PowerBomb]

Gliding =/= Flying

I'm guessing that's why.

 

[Kole]

why can't flareon learn flare blitz?

 

[E123-omega]

It's sad that Flareon's strongest STAB move is natural gift.

 

[Terywj [태리]]

why can't flareon learn flare blitz?

There really is no solid explanation for this, unfortunately. :\

It's sad that Flareon's strongest STAB move is natural gift.

Not to mention it only gets one use. Then it becomes Fire Fang.

 

[verycoolguy]

It's sad that Flareon's strongest STAB move is natural gift.

It's not Natural Gift, it's Overheat.

 

[Terywj [태리]]

It's not Natural Gift, it's Overheat.

I think he meant physical STAB - the useful one. Flareon has a respective base Attack stat.

 

[verycoolguy]

I think he meant physical STAB - the useful one. Flareon has a respective base Attack stat.

I knew that's what he meant. Many people overlook the ridiculously high BP moves and ignore them because it's on the weaker side of the attacking spectrum of a Pokemon. If you want to use a strong Fire type attack on Flareon right now, you're really just better off with Fire Blast or Overheat.

 

[Kole]

but then you're better off with a different Pokemon, because Flareon's base Sp. Attack is not exactly very good...

 

[mood4food77]

it's base 95
it's usable

 

[RuNNing Riot]

I just realised something.

Why doesn't the Mudkip line get Dry Skin? Mudskippers are known for having to keep themselves damp constantly to stay alive.

 

[verycoolguy]

Damp would be a better ability.

 

[E123-omega]

Because he has torrent. Thanks for telling me mudkip is, I never would have guessed.

 

[Terywj [태리]]

Mudkip is a starter Pokemon, and by tradition all starter Pokemon have either Overgrow, Blaze, or Torrent. If it wasn't a starter Pokemon Damp or Dry Skin would be very fitting.

 

[Golem the Stern Father]

There are no exceptions to the generic abilities of all starters. NO EXCEPTIONS!

Also, why can't Gengar learn Nasty Plot?

 

[PowerBomb]

There are no exceptions to the generic abilities of all starters. NO EXCEPTIONS!

Also, why can't Gengar learn Nasty Plot?

I'd bet this is mainly for balance. After a Nasty Plot, Gengar's Focus Blast 2HKO's Blissey, which is pretty ridiculous if it's behind a Sub.

 

[Golem the Stern Father]

Yeah, even a non-sub Gengar with focus band would still legitamently sweep through non-special walls.

Why can't Machamp learn Mach Punch?
Why can't Hitmontop learn Drain Punch?

 

[PowerBomb]

Machamp learns Bullet Punch, yet not Mach Punch. Wut

Hitmontop not learning Drain Punch is weird.

 

[mood4food77]

3rd gen starters already break the BST rule...don't mess up any more starters

 

[Golem the Stern Father]

With Hitmonchan and drain punch, a hit, heal, and run technique could become the second standard for Hitmontop.

@Leftovers / Energy Root
Adamant / Technician
252HP / 252Att / 4Def

Drain Punch
Bulk Up / Rest
Sucker Punch / Mach Punch / Quick Attack
Stone Edge / Fake Out

IDK, you can play around with Hitmontop.

 

[Terywj [태리]]

Or just running a Bulk Up spread with Drain Punch / Stone Edge / Mach Punch works well, paired with Leftovers.

 

[Golem the Stern Father]

I could see that, especially with the great coverage fighting has. Depends when you want to switch him in and with what boosted stat in mind, mostly def or att. Maybe in gen V we might experiment with this, hopefully.

On topic: Why can't Seviper learn Sword Dance?

 

[PowerBomb]

3rd gen starters already break the BST rule...don't mess up any more starters

Wow, I just noticed this. Kind of stupid, really.

 

[mood4food77]

yea, swampert and sceptile have 5 too many
blaziken has 4 too low

 

[Metal~Mario]

With Hitmonchan and drain punch, a hit, heal, and run technique could become the second standard for Hitmontop.

@Leftovers / Energy Root
Adamant / Technician
252HP / 252Att / 4Def

Drain Punch
Bulk Up / Rest
Sucker Punch / Mach Punch / Quick Attack
Stone Edge / Fake Out

IDK, you can play around with Hitmontop.

This was the first set I was going to make for Top on Shoddy.

Until I found out he couldn't learn Drain Punch.

 

[PowerBomb]

I'd love to know why Drain Punch has such low PP. What's the big deal, it isn't amazing.

 

[Metal~Mario]

Giga Drain also has 5 PP.

It's that you can deal damage and heal at the same time.

Which is also why it has low base power.

 

[verycoolguy]

Giga Drain has 10 PP. And so should Drain Punch.

 

[MewtwoMaster2002]

Why doesn't Gyarados have Aerial Ace? It needs more flying attacks besides Bounce.

 

[Golem the Stern Father]

There are a few small reasons why.

Though part flying, Gyrados does not resemble much of a flying type, more of a water/dragon. Yes, other non-flying types have Aerial Ace, but others that do have access to that move typically have something sharp to cut or to slice. Even the sound from the attack suggests some sort of slice or cut, and I don't see an acceptable way Gyrados slices something. Maybe with its teeth, but that would count as a bite, or a fang move. The tail may seem like a possible canidate to use Aerial Ace, but the tail doesn't suggest a sharp blade or possible cutting move, based on design.

Is that an acceptable answer?

 

[MewtwoMaster2002]

I don't see anything sharp on Diglett or Dugtrio nor can they fly, but they can still learn Aerial Ace. Mantyke can also learn it as a Water/Flying, but I don't really imagine it as flying up in the air for long periods of time nor do I really see any sharp objects on it.