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Ultimately, I see 1 and 3 being the main factors. The raw gameplay is the same, and I believe differences will be negligible. The 3DS is cheaper and more popular, but the Wii U is generally a better spectator sport, which I believe is crucial to tournaments if the level of complaints about 3DS capture card prices is anything to go on. Wii U's online is also likely to be more stable.
What? There can be updates for the game through the eShop, like there were on games like Dream Team. I'm pretty sure Sakurai wouldn't mess it up for the 3DS version also.
Oh, okay, then I probably screwed myself over when I was reading that cause I got the wrong idea. Sorry for the misunderstanding, though '- '. I'm hoping there wouldn't be anything too major to patch on the updates, though, considering how they are trying to balance everything greatly.
Hilarious considering the 3DS version was supposed to be the only version at the start.
I think both will be competitive at the same level. I mean, the physics and gameplay should be the same. Only actual difference would be controls which I honestly think I would have a better time with controls on my 3DS than the Wii U game pad ( I really need a classic controller pro :/ ).
Yeah, exactly. It's not because the 3DS is a handled game system that it automatically becomes a casual machine made for small game time (actual arguments from that guy...). The only thing is that it's not convenient for tournaments... But a game doesn't need to be played in e-sport to not be "casual".
on this version.
And rosalina and luma.
If Street Fighter works on the 3DS, I suppose Smash is all but guaranteed to work.
Why? That's just rude and pointless.
Same here!! I thought it was going to be hard because it was on 3ds but it played perfectly. Funny thing is I prefer that version more than the console version.
I can see what you mean there. Even though I'm not getting the 3ds version, I'm glad that they're making it because the way I feel about it is that the limitations with characters are helping them polish up the game itself more, making it more balanced.
It is all in good fun; it is just something to discuss while we pass the time. That being said; you are correct, there will be a thread announcing the Wii U versions sales eventually, and comparisons will be thrown around. But that doesn't necessarily mean negativity is involved.
Welp, yeah, a lot of it's in good fun and just discussion, but IN MY OPINION, not to be taken as fact or as a means of swaying people to my opinion, and I think you're all beautiful and amazing creatures.. the 3DS version will likely sell more short/mid term, at the very least, because the 3DS has a larger and more active user base, has that aforementioned novelty (portable Smash, hell yeah!), has some kind of connectivity with Wii U that's likely to be from 3DS to Wii U and not vice-versa, so on and so forth.
I'd like to see your explanation on how Iwata knew that the Wii U sales would be horrid a year before they were.
I believe Sakurai outright confirmed the limitations as well; anyone believing that there are no limitations are delusional.
Preach.
I dunno, I'm not so confident. It's easy to say that when you think that the Ice Climbers will be only one in a fight, but don't forget, they need to figure out a way to make a screen full of four Ice Climbers, all with things going on in the background and utter chaos happening run at 60 FPS.
From a competitive standpoint, most people try to cycle through Ivysaur and rely on Squirtle and (to a significantly lesser extent, except in some MUs) Charizard. Squirtle was the best in Brawl, so burdening him down with 2 characters with a lot more flaws won't be missed.Moldy Clay said:
I won't pretend that I know everything about how games run and such, but something tells me that other design choices were made to alleviate this problem.GunGunW said:
Alright, though most people that have argued with me about this aren't competitive players. And that doesn't really change removing the uniqueness of Zelda & PT. That was just to illustrate that their gimmick was removed. That part had nothing to do with players, but with Sakurai. Just trying to say I could see him removing IC's gimmick. Especially since it'd be more accurate anyway.
I'll give you that it's more accurate, but he added Rosalina+Luma, so removing the other two-in-one character would cause a lot of "WHAT THE *****" from ICs players who like them (unless Sakurai figured ICs were unpopular and they simply were cut... and the infinite CG was pretty unpopular with a lot of people, casuals and competitives alike - although I actually don't mind that much nowadays - I don't like ICs but I can't begrudge them for it really).Moldy Clay said:
Good point. I don't exactly play them either, I just know people who like them and want them back and actually work to be competitive (they're ALL ICs players, with the exception of this Melee Peach I know who dabbles in Brawl as Marth and wants them back for some odd reason...).Moldy Clay said:
And multiplayer on one system with one copy.
The Wii U version is technically superior, no argument there, but it's going to sell less than the 3DS version because the Wii U audience is considerably less in comparison. So unless Mario Kart 8 magically pulls in a couple more million new Wii U users, 3DS is probably going to double, if not triple, the Wii U version's sales.
I definitely agree with you here. I was giving points on the superiority of the Wii U version, not the sales; the poster I quoted said the the only thing the Wii U version has over the 3DS one is "better graphics" so I needed to set the record straight there. I'm such a huge Smash fan that I'm going to purchase the Wii U just for Smash, and others like me will do the same. A majority of Smash fans are casuals though, so the 3DS version will likely sell better.
This is precisely the reason that I "hate" the 3DS version. I mean, it is more about the incentive to buy the 3DS version over the Wii U version to be honest.
