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Wait...... Didn't she get Mario and Luigi to take care Mr. King Koopa? I swear.
By that logic, your not a reliable source either.
Can Rosalina launch herself into space with a 360 WHEELIE OFThis....
Is Wario above god tier now?
EDIT: If this isn't, I don't know what is.
DEATH
Then that means Dissida is more powerful than everyone. Duuuuuuuuuuh.
You might be right. Peach took him down all by herself, but stills gets kidnapped.
You're not a reliable source. You said it yourself.By that logic, your not a reliable source either.
You ignored the video because she can't right?Also, this best argument.
Can Rosalina launch herself into space with a 360 WHEELIE OF
Chances are nope.
Uuuuuuuh, Dissidia is the name of a Final Fantasy game...
Yes, Peach is the quintessential example of a character held back by gameplay-story segregation.
I backed up all of my points for Rosalina earlier in the thread with game images, GIFs, and videos. So even if you think I'm not reliable, you can't argue what's in the games.
Rosalina cannot perform janky, non-canon glitches using a motorbike in the Smash Bros games, but in the Mario universe, she can fly and teleport, which is just a lot more practical. No equipment needed.You ignored the video because she can't right?
So the actual plot from the game isn't accurate canon, but a Pic of the Day is?
The plot from the game is canon. Rosalina did have Mario help her. However, it was far from needed, as she was blatantly shown to be more than capable of handling the situation. Literally the only reason she doesn't is because Mario absolutely had to be the star of the game. Just because the plot was canon, doesn't mean it wasn't under going heavy gameplay-story segregation. Rosalina getting Mario to help her was essentially a plot hole, because it was quite clear she didn't need that help at all.
I noticed that she acts like nothing happened when hit, but thats for wusses. Peach is manly enough to get hurt you know. (Since Super Mario Bros. 2 if you haven't heard.) Plus why is she even in smash anyway? I mean literally, she sounds uninterested 90% of the time like Falco.
I didn't use that example, you did.
Wait a sec. If games aren't a source we can pick from, then what? Our imagination? Cause you said Rosalina could do powers she hasn't done yet.
...I'm not even going to elaborate on all of the things wrong here....
Cause there isn't!
Keeeep telling yourself that, kid....Cause there isn't!
[Sandbag]
Yea that seems about rightThe strongest characters in Smash 4(Tier 1):
Characters that might secretly be the strongest(Tier 2):
Any objections? Did I forget anyone?
Duck Hunt, Charizard, and Dedede shouldn't be here. There are also several other things I won't get into.The strongest characters in Smash 4(Tier 1):
Characters that might secretly be the strongest(Tier 2):
Any objections? Did I forget anyone?
Smash Bros most certainly not be taken into account. Smash Bros is factually not canon, and this topic is about canon. It's as simple as that.
quoted for irony
Yes it can. Canon refers to events. Not character abilities. As long as a character's abilities in Smash do not contradict canon, then it's simply an extension of their character.
You say fourth wall break is less canon than SSE? What about Master Hand in Banjo Kazooie? Goombas, Chain Chomps, and Wart in Link's Awaking? Plus Rosa herself didn't help Mario/Luigi on their adventures, but the Lumas did. She might had sent them to help but not in person.
Thanks, now I know everything not Mario related isn't canon now. To bad Wario went on a adventure with Mario, Luigi, and Yoshi.
has carried things heavier than ceilings in his games. Wario World (GC) and Shake It (Wii) are the games were is the strongest. Isn't a robot too? might be with him, but we don't know. 
: He can't be killed without a holy weapon, meaning the only people who can deal a final blow are ,,, and especially and . Bonus points for typically having superhuman strength, magic, and Pig Ganon form in reserve.: She literally made a big bang and rebuilt the Mario universe once she was restrored to her proper power level. Nobody else can do that. The only question is how good she is in a fight, but that probably doesn't matter considering how much sheer power is at her disposal.: We all know how powerful a typical Pokemon is. Mewtwo still has the highest offensive power of any Pokemon to this day, and that's including Arceus. His force is utterly overwhelming.: Managed to hold off GIYGAS in a fight. GIYGAS. A psionic being so powerful it could destroy the universe literally without thinking. He holds off hyperadvanced aliens without breaking a sweat and has regular access to PK Starstorm Omega by the end of the game. He is literally the chosen one to fight an all-powerful god and the strongest person in his party by far.: God-eating horror and could probably handle everyone on this list. His copy abilities give him the ability to respond to any ranged attack with a ridiculously-amplified version of his own with his Copy Ability.: Yes, Super/Hyper Sonic are ridiculous, but the forms can only be held for a limited time, and if Sonic gets access to all chaos Emeralds for a fight, that means his foes have license to use all of their most OP powerups. That means Mewtwo gets Mega Evolution and Ganon has the Triforce of Power. Imagine Kirby somehow surviving Super Sonic and inhaling a Chaos Emerald. You just pictured a dead hedgehog.: Really strong, but she has yet to fight anything godlike enough to prove her mettle against the Top 5.
It was the Lumas, not Rosalina, who saved the universe at the end of Mario Galaxy. And are we just going to ignore that she has found herself at the mercy of Bowser TWICE.
is an honorable mention. But she doesn't stand a chance against the likes of , , and .
Wario can die to a Goomba in Super Mario 64 DS. As can any other character from Mario depending on the game.Just saying, the fact that Rosalina can die to Galoomba in 3D World makes me don't get it how she is considered "strong"
And yeah, Wario
It was not the Lumas, and the fact that she was at the mercy of Bowser ONCE was gameplay story segregation.It was the Lumas, not Rosalina, who saved the universe at the end of Mario Galaxy. And are we just going to ignore that she has found herself at the mercy of Bowser TWICE.
Thanks to the power of the Lumas,
being defeated by was PIS (plot-induced stupidity).
In all seriousness, he could be up there. I mean, his rev roll is a slower spin dash, his butt bounces can cause explosions in succession, he can shoot Pac dots like energy blasts, which can be charged, and there are the special Pac dots: one that gives him FORCE LIGHTNING, a ribbon ring one that basically acts as art attack from Paper Mario 2, one that turns his body to steel and drastically increasing his defenses (lava can't hurt him), and that's not even including his ghostly adventures powers. I'd say the force lightning alone immediately puts him above half the cast.
Yes, but it takes 8 hits and he sends them flying if he punches them.
It should go without saying at this point. She's tough but vulnerable for most of the game but by the end of each of her adventures she can basically hunt down anything. Her suit can adapt to any situation over time and represents the peak technological superiority of an ancient species, technology that's so advanced that it can apparently be tuned to fight off the paranormal. I don't think anybody can deny that at least from a purely gameplay related view that no other character is quite as held back for the sake of this games' balance than Samus is. She'd be saturating the stage with missiles and various beams while running as fast as Zero Suit Samus normally, and at the speed of light at most with an infinite jump, different types of views and scans and etc etc. Anyone who's familiar with the Mother series knows the potential of PSI, but Ness (and ) also follow the RPG rule. Basically...they're insane by the end of the game. Full global teleportation, healing, psychic shields, all forms of hypothetical kinesis, hugely physically devastating psychic attacks and the list goes on and is maybe only limited to your imagination. He's cute, and his power is literally limitless. I remember in the anime that Dedede once got sucked into him, and saw an entire galaxy inside. lol And just look at the power of that mega vacuum he had in his most recent game.To be honest Kirby's kind of frightening., maybe and Palutena's a Goddess so that goes without saying. Pit and Pittoo are angels. I mean, on top of being full blown celestial beings anyone who's played Uprising knows they have some pretty out there weapons and powers at their disposal. Its Mewtwo. His power is maximum. lol He is very powerful but I think some people maybe oversell his power a bit, but regardless he's obviously enough of a threat that the three goddesses give him personal consideration. He is only, as far as we know, able to be hurt by holy weapons which is definitely a thing (too bad we don't have Simon Belmont in here right?) Plus I mean, on top of that and his powerful magic and fighting strength...he does carry within him the essence of basically a primordial arch-demon as well as usually the Triforce of Power. He may have just one single claim to fame, but it's a pretty damn good one if the Flash is any indication. Super speed is just one of those abilities that on its own warrants mention, and that's without Super Sonic. Even if he's still susceptible to its no use. Ok I gotta get this out of the way because few have mentioned him, and since Xenoblade is still sorta obscure-ish it shouldn't be surprising; but anyone who's played Xenoblade to the very end knows what I'm talking about. Generally..he's a competent adventurer and swordfighter yes, (although he utilizes what is probably one of the most powerful and primordial objects any character in this game wields the Monado's crazy yo.), but as any who've reached the end know there's more to Shulk than just a boy with a crazy sword. It's debatable as it's more potential than what came to be, but I think it just has to be mentioned. Sorry if I'm coming across as vague I just don't want to spoil things incase any here do end up playing it later. Ok hear me out. Think about it, it's not just the dog and the duck...even Sakurai himself has said that it's three characters representing the entire Duck Hunt game that players are fighting against. You know who the third one is? I only say it's debatable because the ending to Mario Galaxy is so debatable, as is the full magnitude of her power or even what role she plays in the universe. For such a popular character, there's still very little known about Rosalina and it's probably going to stay that way (I hope so, it gives her mystery.). I mean...did she really create a Big Bang? That's the assumption but to me I remember it still being so vague. Whatever the case, she's got some sort of cosmically transcending view of the universe which is itself a pretty awesome quality. She does have some sort of incredible power and more than likely belongs up above, but she's still undefined enough to I think be a bit more on the debatable side Yes, if he has the entire Pokedex he's potentially insane, but then we get into the debate over whether it's really him...or what he's captured and it's just endlessly debatable. It's worth mention definitely but it's not so clear cut./ and / I only wanna mention them because having the Triforce of Courage and Wisdom could be in itself something worth mentioning, on top of all the things they have at their disposal. But that's really debatable.
I doubt Rosa herself did, but the lumas probably did. Judging from the Galaxy games, 3D World, and half of her move set from Smash, she is very dependent on them.
Rosalina is the mother of Lumas. A child is dependant on the mother, not the other way around. This applies to their Smash moveset too.
I was talking ability-wise. The lumas are dependent on Rosalina for safety and she is dependent on them for her powers.
No she isn't. Her powers are her own. In Smash, Luma simply attacks with her.
Well
uses guns so that's hard for everyone to beat.
You're being sarcastic, right? Because at least half of these people have better projectiles than guns.Well
