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Well, Mega Man didn't hold out his arms to stop them 99% of the other times or he'd be OK =P (Generally, when we talk about feats, story events take precedence over gameplay mechanics)
Well, according to the wiki, the ONLY reason that's the case is because they have devices made SPECIFICALLY so they aren't affected by it. So when you have Mega Man face off against **** like Mario, yeah, it should work.
Secretly, said planet has the consistency of a cracker =3Kirby cracked a planet almost in half.
Good. ****ing. Game.
Villager gets to go up a couple tiears on the list now.
To be fair, his access to said weapons says literally nothing about his proficiency in using them.
Still, this little experience in weapons of mass destruction can be enough to kill off the weaker characters like R.O.B., Wii Fit Trainer, and Mr.Game & Watch.
I swear that wiki has been edited since last time I argued this like 2 months ago. I want better documentation. Lol
but clearly Mr. Game and Watch's turtle is way more powerful than any other weapon Villager could possibly have access to =P
Why does feats have anything to do with the genuine strength of the character? Mewtwo not having done any feats doesn't matter when he can simply puree the brains of the majority of the cast from a distance. As for haxed items, I didn't include them when drawing up the list, I mostly stuck to stuff already in Smash, typical of the character day to day in their canon sources, or that would fit into Smash that isn't already there, like Mewtwo's Mega Forms.
Well, the canon would be based off of thing they would USUALLY have available to them, so I'm not sure if those count.
You may like my big post somewhere talking bout Pit's powers that he learned how to do thanks to Palutena. I'm too lazy to talk about the important ones, though look up Bumblebee, Super/Aries Armor, Playing Dead, Freeze/Instant Death Attack, and Pisces Heal. They can help Pt most definitely.
Other Pokemon have some resistance to psionics, presumably. Also, Mewtwo's psychic attacks shouldn't be able to affect sufficiently wicked characters, like Gannondorf and Bowser.
Mewtwo has miracle eye which removes psychic immunity an causes his attacks to never miss. Should we also include guardswap, powerswap and me first to steal the strengh of its enemies?
I think we should all confer to which natural abilities, EVs, IVs, nature, moves, etc. Mewtwo has in a battle. Now canonically he would only have four moves, so we need to decide which ones would be best for a fight with the other Smash Characters.
Since when has Mewtwo ever displayed that he has the ability to puree brains? That's what feats have to do with it. You can't just say, "oh, he's psychic, must be able to puree peoples brains." You need to prove he has the ability to do that first.
Minor nitpick: The timeline where Ganondorf kills Link is the Fallen timeline, while the one where Hyrule is flooded is the Adult timeline.
When you can have telekinesis and can communicate telepathically, it's implied that you should be able to puree someone's brain within their own skull. So, yeah, I CAN say 'Hey, he's psychic and must be able to puree people's brains.'. Just 'cause he never actually does it normally doesn't mean he necessarily can't. If we go with your self-imposed rules..
.. that's:
Strong telekinesis/psychokinesis used to hit someone. How does it do this? Do we assume it's in a blunt way, where it uses the strong telekinetic force bluntly, where all the damage comes from the sudden acceleration of the attack? Does it legitimately attack the brain to do the damage? Either way it's done, it's still going to rattle the brain against the inside of the skull. Enough of that energy concentrated into one spot, or enough of that energy hitting you all at once, yeah. It's going to puree your brain, even if you're the Great King of Evil. He may be immortal, but you can still kill him.
There's that word again. Psychokinetic attack. Lucas has a variation of it, PK Love, and like Ness can vary the power of it. So, essentially, they can CHOOSE how pureed your brain is going to be before they puree it. So, yeah, Mewtwo, Ness and Lucas are the three strongest entities CURRENTLY PLAYABLE IN SMASH. Are there stronger entities? Definitely, but they're not playable in Smash and therefore pointless to bring up here.
Oops, you're right! Thanks for pointing this out. <3
Okay, first of all, nowhere have I ever seen it implied that telekinesis = brain mangling.
has defeated gods before. Demise and Majora say hi.
It's NOT implied that telekinesis is brain mangling. It's just that if you can do it and you can focus enough of it broadly to attack in 'waves' or even bluntly, you can focus it enough into a small enough area to mangle brains. Is it that hard to fathom?
Pretty obviously a wave of force? Nothing in the flavor text for Psychic says that across every generation. Second, how do you know that Ganondorf can't be brain-mangled? It never comes up 'cause psychics aren't a thing in Hyrule. I'm not just arbitrarily stating that Mewtwo's telekinetic powers are much stronger than is ever stated anywhere. I'm using genuine example.
Pretty much every Mewtwo Pokedex entry sums up Mewtwo's power or savagery. Its base stats sum up its power. The guy is made for battle. Ganondorf is strong, yeah, but again, he's not brain-puree strong. You're correct that I can't say it's enough to kill Ganondorf when nothing backs that up, 'cause I have no information to go on besides the fact that Ganondorf has a brain susceptible to psychic attacks that makes him vulnerable to psychics, and nothing describing the Triforce of Power says anything about it, either. I don't have access to mathematics to back it up, I don't have any examples 'cause there are none. At the same time, neither does anyone else. At least I have circumstantial evidence to back it up.
It's insta-death to anything with brain matter.
Does this actually come up at all in any Metroid games? If it does, it's probably Prime. I've barely touched those. Even so, I based my picks on how many other Smashers they could handle. I'd say Samus would have a strong chance against Mewtwo, just as lots of other Smashers might.. but at the end of the day, I'd still give the odds to Mewtwo. As for Mega Man, I don't think robots are immune to pure telekinetic force attempting to tear him to shreds. No offense to Mega Man 'cause I loves me some Mega Man, but if he's susceptible to crushing, chances are he's susceptible to being pulled limb from limb with pure, savage telekinetic force.
Certainly. The Dark typing makes it immune to Psychic, but it doesn't have the strength, speed or longevity Mewtwo has.
Two things: That first statement isn't canonically true (as far as I know), so I'd say you need some more circumstancial evidence to back up that claim. I don't disagree, but just saying.
It doesn't say "The target's brain". It doesn't say "Is torn to shreds with mental power". It says "hit with a strong force." Punching someone is hitting them with a strong force.
Why should he only have 4 moves? In the anime he uses plenty of different moves. Canon does not mean only in video games.
Again Miracle Eye removes psychic immunity. Nothing is immune to Mewtwo's psychic attacks.
In the case of Pokémon, that's exactly what canon means.
In the anime Ash's Pikachu one shots a ground type Pokemon with Thunderbolt. Anime is in no way cannon.
Except storyline should take precedence over gameplay mechanics, therefore the 4 move rule shouldn't really be considered when the anime shows time and time again that a pokemon can have more than 4 moves.
THE ANIME
http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Canon
Is there anything that actually says the anime is not canon? What is and isn't canon is defined by the owner of the intellectual property, unless you have a quote from Gamefreak that says otherwise, I'll assert that it should be taken into consideration, and the amount of evidence to support that Mewtwo is canonically the strongest character means absolute jack ****. And most=/=all so no, I do not think we should view the 4 move limit as anything other than a game mechanic for all fairness, as it leaves way too many questions, such as: would Mewtwo/Pikachu/Whatever be able to beat -insert character- with this move instead of this one?
