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We're taking characters from their respective canon/universe and putting them together to fight. Mario comes from the Mario series, and R.O.B. comes from real life, to an even battleground. Being in one universe or the other doesn't give an advantage here.
That probably was a joke.
Yes, that's a good example.
This isn't a problem if the rule passes where they spawn at the beginning.
The leaves would obscure his vision is what I was getting at.
I'd be fine with that.
Well, it is the blade of evil's bane. I'd imagine that or the god-empowered qualities have something to do with it.
Probably the GST.
Doesn’t Sonic have to collect rings rather than start with them to use Chaos Control?I'd vote yes personally but I need a more relevant example. Is this about Nerdicon saying Sonic needs 60 rings to do Chaos Control?
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What do you mean by a reference point?
And we reached an agreement, but I honestly forgot. I want to say it was like 50ft? Not sure.
The Pokemon use an HP based system like the ones in the Mario RPGs, Fire Emblem, Mother series, and Xenoblade. The health bar is merely a visualization of how full their HP is at the moment.
So why are you opposed to Shulk using the Monado’s power to it’s fullest?
We’re talking about R.O.B. not R.O.B. plus his operator.
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Can you describe what Shulk is doing in this scene
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Kirby Dragons
Would Mechon style armor be of use in this scenario (http://vignette3.wikia.nocookie.net...r_Shulk.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20120904015655 in the upper right)?
Because he hasn't been shown to do so.
Ah, I see. The multiple hits deal is mostly for that game; in later games that include the Boost, Spin Dash, etc. Sonic can break through robots with ease. And yeah, Tails's voice was probably at its worst here.
If Sonic dies, Robotnik can't use the Chaos Emeralds to split the world apart. If Sonic turns into Super Sonic (which he does prior to the explosion), the explosion will have no effect.
Summoning a Monado?
It's scripted in OoT because if Link doesn't use the master sword to deliver the final blow, Ganondorf will get back up and you'll have to get him back to the point where he's defenseless.
Yes, but the difference is the description uses the word "vaporize". This isn't use for any other attack.
Because no one else is receiving the option of using their ships. It's not fair for Kirby to be given the warp star while no one else is allowed to use their ships. Pit's vehicle is the great sacred treasure.
Yeah, but I don't consider Link to be that height. I work with 5'7" because the height comparison between adult and child Link in OoT would have to make child Link around 2', which makes no sense.
We don't know how he escapes. Either way, the darkburst is either going to send Ganondorf into a dark dimension where he becomes oblivious, just like the river Lethe in Greek myth where upon drinking from the river would cause forgetfulness, or Ganondorf is going to become extinct.
You know this, how?
How do you know?
If you work with rips from games.
I don't know what you're asking.
But a fraction of that power doesn't tell us much about it. Assume it was powerful enough to cause a castle to be destroyed. What's that equal to in terms of destructive power?
Life-giving is defined as sustaining or revitalizing life. This means the energy is supporting life or imbuing something or someone with life. Were something to happen to the Light of Aether, then Aether would be brought to an end. In essence, it'd die. Considering the Light of Aether has brought life upon Aether, I'd say it's capable of giving life. It consists of various types of energy, but the notable kinds are bio energy, solar energy, and geothermal energy.
To be blessed by gods is to be made holy or consecrated. In the Abrahamic faiths, something that is holy is regarded as such because it is set apart for Yahweh. Not only does the master sword start as the goddess sword, it is imbued with three sacred flames and is even referred to as a sacred blade. We don't know what religion the Hylians ascribe to, but those from the sky are revered.
Yes. That word is "esoteric". It's a word that's been associated with religion.
Probably because they've never managed to pass through the portals. At the end of MP2:E, the Ing warriors try to get through, but presumably fail to do so because their world is being destroyed. These dark rifts that allow the Ing to possess their hosts wouldn't make sense anyway if they were vulnerable to Aether's atmosphere. They would be exposed to Aether's atmosphere. Furthermore, U-Mos makes it quite clear that if the Ing took the last energy from the Main Energy Controller, they'd seek other planets to take over and Samus' homeworld could be next.
I'm not sure what you're trying to say here.
Using our physics, of course.
I thought it was you who said Sonic casually runs at the speed of sound. I'm still not sure how breaking through multiple security doors and other parts of the ship would cause it to explode.
Actually, I've been the one who pointed out Link's height as 5'7" here and have been using that. We really don't know what Link's height is, but using the pool in OoT will not give you 5'7". The point is, Hyrule Historia says Ganonodorf is 7'6". That's canon.
This seems to imply that the Master Sword is necessary for defeating him, no?
Let's say that there are two red chairs. The description for chair A reads, "A nice, cozy recliner that will make you feel right at home." Chair B's description is, "A red rocking chair that will fit in perfectly with any rustic setting." Only one description specifies the color, but that does not mean that Chair A isn't red.
Yes.
Sonic runs at the speed of sound, but this isn't specified for the Rocket Accel (plus, he has to carry Knuckles and Tails, which might hinder his speed a bit).
The Zelda Wiki gave me that number; if it's wrong, feel free to demonstrate.
In order to summon something it has to exist before hand. This is the first time the Monado III shows up in the game so it can’t have been summoned.
Why would Sonic attack the Reactor Core when Robotnik is escaping? How would Sonic even know what a reactor core is (that’s more Tails forte)?
None of those would count, according to the rule.
Maybe so, but Marth wouldn't really need the shield, just the Darksphere.
Most likely useful for blocking attacks. Does it have any other effects?@
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They're sticking up, not towards Rosalina. Not to mention, the same amount of damage is done in the back.
The Invisibility Stone provides Kirby with complete intangibility.
What do sparkles/auras have to do with anything?
Nah, it's actually a bit bigger.
Actually, it seems to be a bit smaller than Kirby. My bad.
It would still extend.
Still voted against.
No, but Invisibility Stone allows Kirby to pass through the Clown Car.
Since when is not getting hit an example of durability?
Touch damage does the same amount of damage to Kirby than the things you mentioned.
No, because Kirby used his Invincibility Candy/Invisibility Stone/Warp Star.
There is no factor that makes Zanza able to perform shapeshifting that Shulk doesn't have.
They can be Crashed/Miked/Painted through.
That's still a lot less than 200 MPH.
Rule hasn't passed yet.
Pretty impossible, seeing as the whole thing was shown in multiple seconds.
If you're going to wail on the statue's durability like that, I can do the same and say that Brick Blocks are incredibly weak. For another instance of durability, he destroyed the building without and signs of damage.
Barely.
See above.
That's just a game mechanic.
Almost-goddess is a better way to put it. Having the power to achieve complete control over a planet makes you planetary.
Just more nitpicking. Though, I'm going to bring up that Meta Knight's attacks were pretty difficult to dodge in KSS, including a fire tornado that covers the whole screen. He's also speedy in battle.
Trick.
In OoT, yes. This doesn't tell us anything else.
It doesn't mean Chair A is not red, either.
I see.
Where did Zelda Wiki give you that number? I've never seen it before. I just assumed it because child Link's height made sense to put around 4'8".
Where did the height for Link come from?
That's a possibility, but it's simpler to use the same height for characters who are reincarnated because let's face it, they may be different incarnations, but they're really all the same.
Okay, so Shulk can create swords. Your point?
By making a detour?
I dunno, by watching Star Wars?
So it's touch damage, then.
But not the Warp Star.
What do force fields have to do with anything?
It's a different matter when that psychic move has been shown to be blocked by Protect.
What image are you using exactly?
When did this discussion switch to Mega Man? I'm talking about Sonic's spinball form.
As proven by?
Actually, it only works on specific, crystalline blocks.
You can hit it with, say, a Fire Flower or a Cape Feather. It just won't do much of anything.
Do you have examples of this?
And Mario's 99 Starmen last longer than that.
Except, you know, having performed shapeshifting.
Can those defeat invincible enemies?
They seem to pick up speed quite a bit (they reach a great distance in a matter of seconds).
Then we should put this little part of the discussion on hold until then.
You could Photoshop them together.
I'm not saying the statue isn't durable. I'm asking for evidence that it is.
But he can.
A king can have control over his kingdom, but that doesn't give him much power in a one-on-one fight. What exactly does this boss demonstrate in the battle against Kirby?
Then how exactly can a
beat a in both Smash and Pokemon?If you're going to cite boss battles as feats, I'd like to know what exactly those fights are like.
Is this reflected in the actual stage itself?
Doesn't work.
It matches up with the "only the Master Sword and other weapons like it" hints, clues, descriptions, etc. the series has provided elsewhere.
That's what I just said...
Where did the height for Link come from?[/quote]
Their heights do vary, though. For instance, look at Toon Link VS Twilight Link. The question is, which one do we use here?
This is a poor comparison. You're trying to prove that something that's there isn't true, not that something that isn't there could be true.
The Hyrule Historia is about as canon as you're going to get. Not to mention that height for Link is from Ocarina while the height for Ganondorf is from Twilight Princess (which really doesn't matter)
Exactly. He wants to put in the aforementioned collectable rule so Sonic can freeze time whenever. It literally has no effect on the rest of the characters.
He seems to summon the Monado III. Something to do with Zanza accidentally making Shulk a third god. The Monado III is his right as a god, therefore he summoned it. I still support the whole ether manipulation thing though, just saying what I saw.
Chair A isn't said to be red, but clearly is.
It's another source of media rather than the main series of games. It could still be true, though; different incarnations and all.
It still needs to be addressed, though.
Nothing about chair A makes me think it's red, and you're still arguing the wrong front.
In terms of canonicity, the Hyrule Historia is the Word of God, so it gets priority over any other lore or gameplay.
It has been, he can freeze time once unless he collects another 60 rings
I know.
Except, you know, the fact that it's visibly red.
Fair enough.
And Sonic has collected thousands prior to the battle.
...And here, he's starting off with thousands. Sonic needs sixty Rings per time freeze, so since he has many Rings here, he should have many time freezes.I know.
That doesn't tell us anything, though. It just tells us the game is scripted.
I'm failing to understand what you're trying to convey.
Huh. Interesting. Although, MatPat says Link is 5'.
Considering Toon Link is from WW, meaning he is a child, I personally would go with 4'8".
It tells us that Ganondorf resists other harm other than the Master Sword when it comes to delivering the final blow.
You said that Crash vaporizes enemies while other attacks don't because it was specified in Crash's description and not the other attacks' descriptions. I provided an example to demonstrate why that is not the case.
Great job, Zelda Wiki.
Seems reasonable. My point is that heights seem to vary between different incarnations of these characters.
A nice, cozy recliner that will make you feel right at home
OK, he gets one time stop. That's what I've been saying
Correction, every sixty rings he collects he gets one use of time stop. He doesn't use any of them up it's a reward for collecting 60 rings.
The fact that it's visibly red, which I established before providing the descriptions.
Every sixty Rings, Sonic gets one Time Stop. With 9,999 Rings, that means 166 uses of Time Stop.
That's what I'm saying. Sonic collected 9,999 Rings prior to the fight, so he has 166 uses of Time Stop stored up.
No it doesn't. Ganondorf doesn't even die in OoT.
Except, you haven't proved anything because no other attack says anything about vaporization. It also makes more sense for crash to vaporize, considering it's an explosion.
Zelda Wiki did fine, it was just MatPat who said 1.5 meters, while Zelda Wiki says 1.7 meters.Great job, Zelda Wiki.
I know.
You can't finish Ganon off with anything other than the Master Sword in-game. What about that doesn't suggest that he can't be finished off by weapons other than the Master Sword?
All other attacks vaporize enemies as shown by the in-game animation.
It seems more like 1.5 meters looking at the footage. (I just got reminded of that Mario Kart Wii cowboy guy from the commercials...) I wonder where the Wiki got those numbers from.
So we should decide which incarnation to use when it comes to height and such.
It's scripted. You and I know there are other weapons that can harm Ganondorf.
Or, the reason the animation is the same is because it's cost effective. It was cheaper for those who developed OoT to to develop MM and for those who developed Metroid Prime to develop Metroid Prime 2: Echoes.
That'd make Link two inches shorter than Mario. From concept arts, that doesn't look like it's the case.
It makes no difference to me. Any adult Link will be 5'7". Any child Link will be 4'8". It's like Cremia and Malon having the same height, even though they're not the same people.
I don't see why the Master Sword could be the only weapon that can finish off Ganondorf.
Regardless of why it was implemented, it's in the game and is thus canon.
True. I'd be fine with working with 5'7".
Except here we have a case of different Ganons having different heights.
Maybe I should be more specific, what about that description makes Chair A red? If you hadn't told me, I wouldn't have known.
Except the uses don't stack, so only one use of time stop.
Nothing. I opened the analogy with "there are two red chairs". Allow me to draw the parallels.
Oh, so if Sonic collects 120 Rings, he only gets one use of Time Stop?Except the uses don't stack, so only one use of time stop.
Deal with it
Nobody show this to Mr Lange...I made a list way back when
One word, bucko; Masterball.
Being a "goddess" doesn't mean much; what really matters is the feats that the character has shown. Also, welcome to the thread!
You're the one who brought them up.
Actually, it's not. Super Sonic ≠ ≠ ≠ ≠ ≠ ≠ ≠ Protect. They would only be comparable if they were both forcefields, yet they're both defensive powers (in fact, Super Sonic isn't mainly a defensive power, while Protect is). That's like saying that water is an element, and fire is an element, so Mewtwo using Flamethrower would drown Sonic, because Sonic can't swim.
Oooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooohhh.
The spark field would be large enough to extend around the Warp Star. If not, then the Spark Scroll will expand the field so that it is so.
As long as it is being held, all crystal-like walls become phased out and passable for the carrier, and its carrier is both invisible and invincible to all enemies, including aggressive and tracking Scarfys and Degouts.
Can you actually target the clown car, or just Bowser?
Acchi's fireballs and Spynum's arrows deal the same amount of damage as touching.
We should actually vote on this as well.
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They can if the invincible enemy if the enemy isn't actually invincible (Mario with a Starman). They all show the same amount of power as lava and such, seeing as all of it one-shots characters that they hit.
How much distance, then?
Alright.
I'll try Paint.
Well, I gave some evidence (that the statue completely destroyed a building by growing, not showing any signs of damage).
We should probably dismiss this now.
Goddess of a place > king of a place. Though, I'll give you the lowdown anyways.
Pichu can't actually beat anyone in Smash really. It doesn't matter if he can or not, because everyone's power level is equalized there, leading to things likeThen how exactly can a
beating , and we all know that's not true. Smash is definitely not an accurate source for who can beat who.
Why not?
If the ghosts were intangible, they wouldn't have to leave out the entrance of the room. They'd just pass through the walls.
You're the one who brought up the difference between force fields and Super Sonic etc.
Why does it matter if it's a force field or not? Both protect the user from most attacks.
I see.
Eight-inch sword =/= significantly larger spinning blue buzzsaw hedgehog.
What has the Spark ability been shown to resist? I doubt it has been shown to block, say, one of Samus's Super Missiles. Also, it can be bypassed by spikes.
But not escaping the Clown Car.
It's a 2D platformer. You can target whatever you want.
Okay, your point?
Okay, then. What exactly do you think the vote should be?
If Shulk has not been shown shapeshifting, I fail to see why we should allow him to shapeshift.
When is it shown that Kirby enemies and Mario have the same amount of durability?
Well, the entire galaxy appears as only a swirling vortex.
What exactly are you stacking up?
M'kay.
M'kay.
Now, that's what I was asking for. How exactly did Kirby defeat this foe, and what other feats of durability has it shown?
Pichu can't actually beat anyone in Smash really. It doesn't matter if he can or not, because everyone's power level is equalized there, leading to things like
It doesn't matter whether or not it's based on power. You're saying that it's impossible for someone to defeat a power level that is higher than their own. I disproved that notion.
Hey look, it's our old friend telegraphed attacks!
I don't see a black hole here.
Indeed.
Because it's blocked by Super Sonic.
@Dryn is saying that Crash uses X amount of TNT because it vaporizes enemies. Someone pointed out that every attack seems to vaporize enemies. Dryn said that only Crash's description specifies the vaporization. And now I'm showing that that doesn't mean that other attacks don't vaporize enemies. Since both a sword slash and Crash "vaporize" enemies, and sword slashes likely don't use that amount of TNT force, we don't have proof that Crash does either.
Well, that would have been nice to know. It would save us a whole lot of discussion.
Just like every other boss in any platformer ever!
Aren't you the one who said lore > gameplay? Well the ability descriptions are lore, so I see no problem. As for the death animations, there are inconsistencies like this in other games. In Mario games I can use the star spin to kill an enemy and they'll fly of and explode. Are you saying that whenever Rosalina uses her spin attack it causes people to explode? No it doesn't as it is clearly an attack that deals damage via blunt force, not explosion. Similarly, the sword ability deals damage via a cutting edge, yet enemies still explode. Crash is clearly stated to vaporize foes, so in this situation where we're not limited by these death animations, Crash vaporizes enemies.
That's what I've been saying this entire time
Because it's not. If other swords with the power to drive back demons were used, it wouldn't be the master sword only. Silver arrows can kill Ganondorf. We've been singing the same tune. I brought up a different argument concerning the light beam and darkburst. I'm not saying anything else on the matter.
What's canon is crash vaporizes, killing regular enemies by other means is not said to do so. Explosions tend to vaporize. Striking an enemy with a sword or yo-yo does not.
It's simpler to work with what's canon already.
Most notable qualities of Mechon armor are near immunity to physical damage (physical attacks do 1 point of damage under normal conditions) and halves damage from ether-based attacks. The only problem is reconciling how Mechon shrug off attacks with their armor yet Bionis wildlife are still able to do normal damage against party members outfitted with it (a case of cutscenes and gameplay for the former vs just gameplay for the latter).
A case of ether manipulation! If he can make a Monado out of the light from his comrades then it shouldn’t be difficult for him to alter it further like Zanza and Meyneth did multiple times.
Should we really be using a questionably canon 2 player race mode Chaos Control technique? The timer can apparently be reduced more quickly by pushing buttons!I know.
ShadowLBlue
How much range does the Fire Emblem ranged attacks have? I’m talking about the Sword of Seals (1-2 range), Ragnell’s shockwave (1-2 range), regular tombs like Nosferatu (1-2 range) and Siege Tomes like Mire (3-10 range). Marth might want to bring a Levin sword as well (1-2 range).
UPDATE thanks to Bagan, the Shulk Rules are done. Here are the results:
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:Well, in that case I'd vote no (it won't stop me from proposing it, I'm just trying to understand it). If we go with the assumption Sonic needs 60 rings to use Chaso Control, he can use Chaos Control as many times as long as he has at least 60 rings left (granted using it each time would costs 60 rings), rather than him getting to use Chaos Control whatever 9,999/60 is.
I thought we already agreed Rosalina and PT get to start off with their allies? With Rosalina, it's just a matter of how many.
I don't see why he can't just leave an opening for his eyes. I'm pretty sure he controls the leaves.
We're giving characters most of their power-ups. We're assuming they come fully loaded, so in Sonic's case he has his max rings and all 7 emeralds.
Actually a good idea. We should have been bookmarking/saving some of these posts. Do you think you can find your long post on Shulk with his ideal set-up?
He summons the Monado?
Or maybe it's scripted because that's actually the only thing that would work? It'd be different if this "script" wasn't backed up by lore and consistently portrayed in lore.
Considering all enemies, blow-up upon death, that Crash vaporizes them doesn't indicate a big power difference.
Who has a ship that they can summon that is being forbidden from using it?
Where does it say in FE1 or 3 that he gets the Darksphere?
Just because something can harm him doesn't mean it can kill him. The Master Sword/Silver Arrows are the equivalent of a boss that can only be killed with a special technique.
This got approved so he can manipulate his weapon. I think it should go without saying he should only be able to manipulate it into weapons he's seen.
Agreed. I don't mind saying he needs 60 rings per Chaos Control (or that it only lasts 10 seconds at most) like in multi-player, but saying he can only use it once is silly since we know from single player that it isn't a "reward" for collecting 60 rings @
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Anyway, what other feats of durability has this boss shown?
And the death animations are gameplay, uncontradicted by lore.
Except we are limited by the death animations. Crash vaporizes enemies because that's how the game functions. Whether that's a game mechanic or an attribute of the enemies themselves, I'm not sure. But it doesn't seem to be an attribute of the attacks themselves, since as you said, swords aren't supposed to vaporize things.
That's what I've been saying this entire time
In Ocarina of Time, only the Master Sword can finish off Ganondorf. This is because the Magical Sword, Four Sword, Silver Arrows, etc. aren't in that game.
Except swords and yo-yos do vaporize Kirby enemies. We can clearly see that in-game.
Interesting.
I am. Ganondorf's height in TP is, canonically, the figure given in Hyrule Historia. In Ocarina, meanwhile, it is the figure given from the diving pool.
When is it stated that anyone that can manipulate Ether can also shapeshift?
It seems like there is a discussion about Rosalina, so I guess we should vote on it @
- It's already agreed Rosalina can start with a Luma. Should Rosalina get to start with as many as she wants? Or should there be a limit? Or should it be just one like in Smash?
- Should Rosalina be able to summon Lumas indefinitely? While they aren't infinite, if they turn into planetary bodies upon dying, there must be an uncountable number of them given the number of black holes, stars and planets in the universe.
- Ditto for Palutena and her Centurions? I personally vote yes. They may not be as numerous as Lumas, but Palutena revives any who die, so it seems silly to assign an upper limit on how many she can summon that's not high.
- After some revisiting Kirby Nightmare in Dreamland, I think Kirby should get the Star Rod. In retrospect, it's much more analogous to the Chaos Emeralds (minus that it only appeared in one game). Unlike the Mario Star Rod, he wouldn't need to steal it to get it (it's just sitting in the Fountain of dreams) and he wouldn't need to go on a massive collection quests to other planets like he would to use the Star Ship (his Final ability in Milky Way Wishes). The only argument against him using it is it would make the citizens of Dream Land have either dreamless sleep or nightmares by removing it.
Thank you for the reminder.
Nerdicon specified exactly how it works in-game, but I'd be fine with using what you just said. Also, it's 166 uses of Chaos Control with 9,999 Rings.
Yes, that's what I mean.
It wouldn't be ideal for vision (especially all around Kirby), and the larger the hole, the more vulnerable Kirby is.
Here's my post on Sonic's abilities if you'd like to save it.
Mmmhmm.
My point exactly.
The only thing that would work as they know it.
Except they have the same animation as if they were killed by a sword slash, which we know doesn't vaporize and there's no textual evidence supporting that.
I thought all vehicles were forbidden. All right, Samus has her own tier, as no one can compete now.
Could you tell me what's harmful, but not fatal?
He may have never been killed, but no one has addressed why the darkburst wouldn't work. It was an attempt on Munomario777's part that it wouldn't pull in Ganondorf because he's tall. Funnily, the space pirates are about 7' themselves. It works on ingsmashers, which are heavier than Ganondorf. He's not heavier than an ingsmasher, considering he's not some metal golem. If we go by TP's incarnation, Ganondorf is somewhat covered in plate armor, but it's already been addressed that it's not heavy, especially for someone like Ganondorf. Ganondorf escaped from the Evil Realm because of Link in WW. He escaped the Twilight Realm because of Zant. So far, there's no indication of him receiving any assistance from someone in the dark dimension that pulls in people to oblivion.
You should step back and look at yourself and ask yourself, "If I was an outsider and looked at this argument that was presented here, would I truly accept this? After all, Dryn has pointed out as well that death animations are limited as well, and here's Munomario777 doing the same. It would appear that creating new animations costs money, so it would be preferable to use the same animation or at least have two or three more types of animations that look similar to prevent inconsistency." This would help avoid confirmation bias.
Except the description for crash says that it vaporizes. Other weapons don't have that description, but you know what? Fine. @
Nerdicon
, all of Kirby's weapons can vaporize, therefore, all of Kirby's weapons are generating at least 2.99 gigajoules, making Kirby a rather formidable opponent.Because bosses have more health. Remove the health (as I've been saying all this time) and the problem is gone.
So as I said to ShadowLBlue, it was the only thing they knew would work.
You should step back and look at yourself and ask yourself, "If I was an outsider and looked at this argument that was presented here, would I truly accept this? After all, Dryn has pointed out as well that death animations are limited as well, and here's Munomario777 doing the same. It would appear that creating new animations costs money, so it would be preferable to use the same animation or at least have two or three more types of animations that look similar to prevent inconsistency." This would help avoid confirmation bias.
Except the description for crash says that it vaporizes. Other weapons don't have that description, but you know what? Fine. @
Nerdicon
, all of Kirby's weapons can vaporize, therefore, all of Kirby's weapons are generating at least 2.99 gigajoules, making Kirby a rather formidable opponent.Because bosses have more health. Remove the health (as I've been saying all this time) and the problem is gone.
So as I said to ShadowLBlue, it was the only thing they knew would work.
Then @
Nerdicon
will be pleased to know that Kirby's weapons and even Kirby falling from a short distance vaporizes his opponents, thus generating 2.99 GJ.
She doesn't use Lumas in that game.
*coughSoniccough*
If Ganondorf isn't large enough to be immune to the darkburst, then Beast Ganon surely is:
Regardless of why the death animations are the same, they're in the game, and they are canon. All attacks seem to cause enemies to "vaporize", so Crash isn't all that special.
My point is that the vaporization seems to be an attribute of either the enemies or the game itself, neither of which would apply here.Except the description for crash says that it vaporizes. Other weapons don't have that description, but you know what? Fine. @
Kirby enemies have health as well. If Crash really is vaporizing anything in its path, then why doesn't it vaporize bosses?
It's the only thing that Link had that would work, because the other Ganon-defeating weapons weren't available to him at the time. If he had the Silver Arrows, he would have been able to use them here.
What game does she have Lumas in where they're used in battle?
Sonic can only travel at the speed of light for a brief time. The gunship can travel 7.2 times faster than the speed of light. Sorry.
That incarnation has a vulnerable point that even the jaws of a wolf can inflict damage upon.If Ganondorf isn't large enough to be immune to the darkburst, then Beast Ganon surely is:
No other weapon says they vaporize. The death animation is the same for reasons given in my aforementioned post. Deal with that or all of Kirby's attacks vaporize.
It's an attribute of the attacks, apparently. Here: Lore > your opinion.
I already said why.
Exactly. But we're not getting anywhere here.
