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I like how you assume I'm a devoted Marth fanboy just because I main him. You're so clever.
ROMLMAO.....omg, that's too good....
chansen in '08!
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When he lands from the last part of the attack, that's when you can pile on him. The only time he doesn't flinch is when he doesn't have his sword. That's why Samus's F-tilt didn't have any knockback. If you can look at the picture, Ike doesn't have his sword. He's going to jump in order to chase after it.
Drascin is sooo right.Bwuh?! The old thread's closed? Man, what killjoys. Anyway, to the topic at hand:
I think it was you, Dylan, who mentioned that no-flinching frames are going to be broken and somesuch (correct me if I'm wrong). Well, I can't disagree more. I think it only makes sense that the heavier, laggier characters can ignore the knockback during some of their attacks. I mean, Bowser charges towards you, 450 kg of angry demon-turtle dash-attacking your ***... and Pikachu touches him barely with the point of his ears and he stops cold in his tracks, with his attack totally interrupted. Er... am I the only one who sees something terribly wrong with that scenario?
I had actually been predicting something of the sort: that really strong characters would have a little knockback resistance - that is, very slight hits wouldn't even make them flich.
And it would help balance them a bit, too. Big characters seem to generally be bottom-of-the-barrel, given their usual lag, huge-taget factor, and easily interrupted attacks. This would give them a chance of approaching without being punished just for existing.
So I personally like the idea, as long as they don't go overboard with it. Shows that they were aware of some of the balance issues in Melee (which, if they adress, will be more than enough to make Brawl "not suck" per se) and buffing up bad characters so that they can actually contend a bit with the others is always a plus
I fail to see how this paragraph was necessary, not only are you attacking all of his opinions, but your also hitting him when he's down...completely uncalled for.
Why do people all think that they might not like it as much at first? The first time I played melee I KNEW it was vastly superior to the original. Yeah, I doubt I'd have the exact feeling again, but I'm pretty sure I'm going to like it more after my first romp through single player.
The paragraph was there for good reason, as Buzz is right about a lot of Dylan's theories, especially the wavedashing stuff. I'm assuming by "hitting him when he's down" is referring to the last statement made about the thread being locked, in which case it was only a matter of time. A lot of you guys don't seem understand what spam is, or what being off-topic is.
Well, it's not so much that I sit down and start playing and think to myself, "Dang, I hate this. I wanna go back to the old one." Of course I enjoy playing/learning the new game! I suppose you could compare it more to a slight gag reflex where I try old tricks and slowly realize, "OK, that doesn't work anymore. Neither does that. That kinda words. Hmmm... ooh, here's a new trick!" You can bet your bottom dollar that I'll be stuck to Brawl for the first few weeks when it comes out; my wife is gonna shoot me. >_<
I didn't know you were married, but alas, I *kinda* know your pain cause my gf is probably gonna shoot me as well.
You should wander through the BRoom more often. I posted a thread with pictures back there in January, I believe.
I wish you luck in that, it's usually no easy feat to get a wife/girl friend to get into smash competitively if they weren't into it beforehand.
Exactly what I was thinking.
I want it back!1!1!!!!shift!11!! /lazyass
um, you might wanna change your sig...
1. Fox falls slower than before. Fox is nerfed, brawl sucks just a little more. Not random, it was something quite a few people notice
I sincerly doubt my opinions on the future of Brawl are why my thread was locked, when it was clearly stated by Kirbyking that the reason was that we were ''off topic''
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I agree with points 1, 3 and 4. Mostly with 3.
Please don't tell me you are basing this off the Nintendo World trailer. First off, trailers are never final. If you listen to the SmashCasts, you will learn that the trailer just prior to Melee's release was extremely different from the actual game. So, you are prejudging the game. Second, since we are analyzing the trailer, did you not notice that he was fighting on a low gravity stage? It was in space. Everyone was jumping super high. Fox probably only falls that fast because of where he was, not because they ruined him.
Nintendo brings more balance to the game, and you say that it sucks more? It sounds like you are more of a Fox lover than a smash lover. If it is pointless then ignore it. Melee has plenty of pointless techniques, yet you love it.
That is one less character. Why is this a big deal to you? You also haven't even verified if you can transform prior to the match starting like Sheik.
This is the worst reason of all. The competitive smash scene has thrived without wave-dashing. Not only was there a period where it didn't exist, Japanese players win all the time without wave-dashing. I cannot believe someone would avoid an entire game based on one little tactic.
No one is telling you what to do. You are free to quit because that is your right to do so. We are simply here to tell you that you have illogical reasoning for quitting.
This is not new. Why are you still playing Melee?
ZOMG! The newbies can flurry without effort now! Take a good look at the party games that have come out thus far. Look at Mario Party 8. That game probably took two days to make. Nintendo used many premade 3D models and did nothing to optimize the gameplay. The graphics are quite cartoony despite being 3D, and the game wins on pure accounts of luck.
That is the initial selling point of the Wii, but it has nothing to do with Brawl. Again, you act like this is something new, but Melee was the same way. Many people purchase and play Melee with a party game mentality, but the game is plenty tournament-worthy.
WTF? You have proof of Captain Falcon being in the game? And he is what is keeping you hopeful about the game?
Without wave-dashing, what does the game lose? And what about the supposed new "fast rolls" we have seen in the videos? Are those unworthy replacements?
You are extremely provocative in the way you approach discussions, and you have a reputation for throwing any thread off topic. I visited several threads and noticed people complaining about your presence driving the discussion haywire. You do not do so hot at keeping to the topic.
Does it make you happy that your thread had thousands of replies? It was not the best thread ever. It was simply an active thread. Everyone becomes nervous at one point or another about this game potentially doing something we don't like, but the aspects you choose are so tiny and so specific that it's a real miracle that you like Melee at all.even though the thread had been pretty much the same thing for the past 6 months and it was the best thread ever.
Don't like the thread? Don't think brawl is gonna suck? Don't post.
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