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Who can't get Sm4sh?

Chimera

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If you really think these analogies have any business existing in the first place you really are lost.
They are illustrative of how silly your statements are. You can replace "video games" with virtually any noun. Human beings got along just fine without laptops too, that doesn't mean laptops aren't beneficial.
 
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Calibrate

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Just buy a WII U anyway, nothing should keep you from playing SM4SH. NOTHING!
 
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But parents not letting their children play videogames is downright barbaric.
How?

It's not barbaric to refuse to give your kids something they don't need and won't help them in life. Kids should be learning skills instead . . . and reading books.


On topic: I don't have a Wii U and won't be able to get one for a while. No Smash for me.
 
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CroonerMike

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Only 15, can't get a job yet :/



Asian parents op, they haven't given me a game related present since I was 8. Now I'm just getting MONEY THAT I CAN'T USE.
Hey man, there can be many jobs my friend. I was working at a Produce stand at 15. Just ask around. During these summers of college I work at a Rental/moving/party company. But usually it's only for people out of college.
 

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Based on everyone giving logical solutions, followed by rejection behavior, and the fairly recent arrival of the OP, I would say this is more of a cry for attention than a cry for help.
 

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Only 15, can't get a job yet :/

Asian parents op, they haven't given me a game related present since I was 8. Now I'm just getting MONEY THAT I CAN'T USE.
Sometimes you can't always get what you want. Right now, given you are still 15, just accept what your parents have told you regarding the console/game and see if you can maybe go to a friend's house. When Brawl was coming out I was on smashboards and the dojo constantly even tho I didn't have (and would never get) a Wii. What I did was go with my best friend to the midnight release then go back to his place and "sleepover" which mean play until the sun came up. After that I'd go every now and then and play a few matches. If you can't do any of that then just try to get it out of your mind. Do other things. It sucks but that's life and honestly it really shouldn't be a big deal. Brawl was the only game I've played pretty much in that gen (until I got a 360 in college around three years ago). Before that I was lucky to have a GC, PS2 and GBA (tho well after launch which is another option for you to just get the console and game a few years later if you still want to play). I only ended being able to get around 3 games per console so I missed out on a lot in that gen too. It sucked but again not a big deal. Just know that one day you'll be in control of your money and you'll be able to get whatever you want (within budget of course you don't want to go broke). So point is, you'll be fine.
 

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Play it at a friend's house. If your parents aren't letting you get a wii u or 3ds for some reason, it's not really our place to advise you to lie to them. Try to convince them and show them you're old enough to make your own large purchases (if you are). Maybe ask for one as a gift if your family has the money (don't ask for one if your family is struggling to make ends meet :p ). Best of luck!!

There's always youtube. I've gotten my fix for games I didn't own in the past by watching videos on youtube.
 
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How?

It's not barbaric to refuse to give your kids something they don't need and won't help them in life. Kids should be learning skills instead . . . and reading books.


On topic: I don't have a Wii U and won't be able to get one for a while. No Smash for me.
Implying that videogames (ESPECIALLY NINTENDO GAMES) aren't a rich form of entertainment. And how do you know videogames can't help in life? Videogames help with hand-eye coordination (Pretty much any action-based game), critical thinking (Puzzle games and adventure games, and most importantly, they make people happy, they're a medium that you can inmerse yourself in, just like a book or a movie :/

It really pains me to see that even in a videogame forum about a game that's supposed to celebrate gaming, there are still people who don't see videogames as a form of art that has as much value as books or movies.
 

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I may or may not be getting the Wii U+Sm4sh depending on my financial situation during release. A laptop is higher on my priorities list and I'm still trying to get that at the moment. I may unfortunately have to wait a while after release to be able to play Sm4sh.
 

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How?

It's not barbaric to refuse to give your kids something they don't need and won't help them in life. Kids should be learning skills instead . . . and reading books.


On topic: I don't have a Wii U and won't be able to get one for a while. No Smash for me.
SO I should stop playing smash and go read twilight?
 

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The Wii U version right now as I don't have a Wii U yet. I'm on the fence on buying one and it depends on if the Wii U will end up a total flop and another console takes it place suddenly.
 

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Only 15, can't get a job yet :/



Asian parents op, they haven't given me a game related present since I was 8. Now I'm just getting MONEY THAT I CAN'T USE.


Not sure why you have your age set up as 33 but okay. This makes a bit more sense to me.

Oh well, like Venus said. See if maybe your friends can get ahold of the games if they happen to have the required system and just play the games with them.
 

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I bought a Wii U two christmas ago. You know the only reason I asked for it? Because I wanted to play Smash when it came out. It's now almost 2 years down the line and I'm easily going to get it. So in my opinion if Smash is something you NEED you should have already been working on getting a Wii U for when it eventually came out. You should have already been working to convince your parents that it is something worthwhile.
 

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If your parents tell you that they don't want you to have a game and you want to live in their house and you aren't a legal adult, then your choice is clear : you can't have the game.
If your parents would ever make you feel like buying a game is reason for them to not let you live in your house, they are terrible people, and even worse parents who should have used protection if they didn't want to be emotionally nurturing to someone.

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I'm slightly concerned about whether or not I can afford Smash 3DS on it's release, but not too much. I think I'll be fine, it just depends on how quickly my college grant comes in. I'm sure Smash Wii U won't be a problem though. I'm also looking to get Hyrule Warriors and Captain Toad's Treasure Tracker, but I may want to put them off.

I also want to get any special editions of any of these games, which is why I have not pre-ordered them yet.
 
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Not sure why you have your age set up as 33 but okay. This makes a bit more sense to me.

Oh well, like Venus said. See if maybe your friends can get ahold of the games if they happen to have the required system and just play the games with them.


You really shouldn't lie.
When i was young, I couldn't use my real birthday to sign up for things (gmail/forums/etc) because it said you had to be at least 13 or something, so I made my DOB the year 80 and stuck with it :p


Btw, this thread was mainly to ask people if they can't get their hands on the game like me, but somehow it ended up about me, so thank you for those who are trying to help me.
 

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I think children get along just fine without video games.
whoa, have you seen this modern generation? Children who play the right video games are ok, children who play no video games at all (or fps CoD games) are ****ing terrible.
 
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If you really think these analogies have any business existing in the first place you really are lost.



Who said anything about locking kids up? Where did that come from? In any case it's rather ironic you use video games (something you generally tend to be inside while doing) as your example.
Really what you are saying here is just plain bull****. It is proven fact that children necesserally NEED games. It doesn't have to be video games though. But taking in account that we write the year 2014 and video games are everywhere you could say that parents, who prohibit their child to buy a video game console, are just stupid. They have no reason and your idiotic reason "as long as he lives in the parents hood they have to obey" is dumb. I have good experiences in this, since my mother was always prohibiting me things when I was a teenager. But I always got what I wanted, because I managed to persuade my parents with logical reasons. Stupid outrightbanning video games is definitely not logic. And I think playing video games with friends, and that whats a Wii U stands for is definitely something that is good. Socially and mentally. PERIOD.
 

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I don't want to get into any arguments, so this will be my only post here, but I just want to give my two cents.

We have no place in trying to justify why Fluggerson should break his parents rules. We only have one person's side of the story, and have no present information about this situation beyond the fact that his parents aren't allowing him to buy the game. Clearly they have a guideline set that they expect him to follow - so he should follow it, considering that he is 15 and is still living under his parents' roof.
This isn't child abuse; if his parents want to restrict him from playing video games, who are we to stop them? Regardless of whether or not that decision is a good or bad one, we have absolutely no place in dictating how they should parent their child.

My advice for Fluggerson? Follow your parents' rule. If you want to keep a positive family dynamic, then be responsible and respectful to your guardians. And if they are good parents, naturally they will treat you with the same degree of respect - but you must show them that you are responsible before you expect any special privileges.
 

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Wear a WEEGEE Mask and sa you won't take it off until you're allowed to buy the game.
It'd creep them out like hell.
 
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They are illustrative of how silly your statements are. You can replace "video games" with virtually any noun. Human beings got along just fine without laptops too, that doesn't mean laptops aren't beneficial.
His parents aren't banning him from beds or books though, and one could argue that books are absolutely necessary to begin to even the learn the literary capability to even play games properly, and more importantly, to progress through school. Given he's around a freshman in high school, why don't you try to tell me he doesn't "need" books. Yes I suppose he could fail out of school because he doesn't "need" school either. He doesn't really need a a balanced diet while were at it, he'll just die earlier.

Your argument is ridiculous and idiotic because it doesn't adhere to a line, it just draws a way out of proportioned comparison based on zero knowledge of the actual situation.

Billions and billions of humans got by without video games, video games have only become a thing in the past ~30 years since their conception of existence, a literal amoebic spec in the grand stage of the human race, don't actually try to fool yourself in to arguing that kids need games or that they are necessary.
 
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Completely wreck school this upcoming semester. Don't let a single grade drop below 100. At the end of the semester your parents will see this and praise you. Then, explain to them that you need freedom to mature as a person and make your own decisions about how you spend your money. They obviously let you use a computer, and you (probably) watch Netflix and/or tv, right? Video games are just another form of entertainment just like those things.

Tell them that if you make less than a B on anything you'll stop playing for two weeks to make up for it. Otherwise, if you can balance doing well in school and playing Smash, then what's the problem? I understand difficult parents. I'll send them an email detailing the benefits of well-maintained adolescent freedom if you'd like.
 

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Let's try to cool the good parents vs bad parents debate. The OP stated he meant to ask those who are in the similar boat as he is in and, rather, not a psychological analysis of parenting techniques.
 
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Let's try to cool the good parents vs bad parents debate. The OP stated he meant to ask those who are in the similar boat as he is in and, rather, not a psychological analysis of parenting techniques.
To be fair, while his final statement isn't really a question, it nearly directly implies that he's inviting input for how to go under his parents radar.
 

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Get a job, worship the devil, drink bad whiskey with strange women. You won't even care about Smash.
 

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To be fair, while his final statement isn't really a question, it nearly directly implies that he's inviting input for how to go under his parents radar.
Still, there isn't a need to go into a lengthy debate what exactly good/bad parenting is. That is for an entirely different subject that I am sure one can find in the Debate Hall.
 
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When i was young, I couldn't use my real birthday to sign up for things (gmail/forums/etc) because it said you had to be at least 13 or something, so I made my DOB the year 80 and stuck with it :p


Btw, this thread was mainly to ask people if they can't get their hands on the game like me, but somehow it ended up about me, so thank you for those who are trying to help me.
Asked if other people couldn't get the game because parents dictated your life, and get 20 more people trying to dictate your life?

smh

Life sucks at all ages.

edit: Wait no you did kinda ask for advice D< yeah you're on your own here man this thread is your mess to clean up. D<

Anyway if your parents love you, and if you really love smash bros, you can probably come up with a "deal" on that wii-u + game being the only thing they'll ever buy for you. Anyhow enjoy a bunch of people who grew up on videogames talking about your parents like they're scum for raising you in a way that's not really wrong or right.
 
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Still, there isn't a need to go into a lengthy debate what exactly good/bad parenting is. That is for an entirely different subject that I am sure one can find in the Debate Hall.
Well it's more like, is it natural or acceptable that his parents would ban him from buying video games and is it worth discussing how to circumvent that ban, to which my answer is no. Relatively on-topic I'd say since that's the advice he's looking for.
 
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His parents aren't banning him from beds or books though, and one could argue that books are absolutely necessary to begin to even the learn the literary capability to even play games properly, and more importantly, to progress through school. Given he's around a freshman in high school, why don't you try to tell me he doesn't "need" books. Yes I suppose he could fail out of school because he doesn't "need" school either. He doesn't really need a a balanced diet while were at it, he'll just die earlier.
You seem to be missing the actual point of my post.

Your argument is ridiculous and idiotic because it doesn't adhere to a line, it just draws a way out of proportioned comparison based on zero knowledge of the actual situation.
It wasn't my argument at all. It's yours. I simply substituted the nouns to illustrate how your "argument" didn't make any sense.

Billions and billions of humans got by without video games, video games have only become a thing in the past ~30 years since their conception of existence, a literal amoebic spec in the grand stage of the human race, don't actually try to fool yourself in to arguing that kids need games or that they are necessary.
Lol here, I'll show you again:

Billions and billions of humans got by without internet, internet has only become a thing in the past ~30 years since its conception of existence, a literal amoebic spec in the grand stage of the human race, don't actually try to fool yourself in to arguing that kids need internet or that it is necessary.

Billions and billions of humans got by without refrigerators, refrigerators have only become a thing in the past ~100 years since its conception of existence, a literal amoebic spec in the grand stage of the human race, don't actually try to fool yourself in to arguing that kids need refrigerators or that they are necessary.

Billions and billions of humans got by without deodorant, deodorant has only become a thing in the past ~70 years since its conception of existence, a literal amoebic spec in the grand stage of the human race, don't actually try to fool yourself in to arguing that kids need deodorant or that it is necessary.

Do you see how your argument is poor?
 
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You seem to be missing the actual point of my post.

It wasn't my argument at all. It's yours. I simply substituted the nouns to illustrate how your "argument" didn't make any sense.

Lol here, I'll show you again:

Billions and billions of humans got by without internet, internet has only become a thing in the past ~30 years since its conception of existence, a literal amoebic spec in the grand stage of the human race, don't actually try to fool yourself in to arguing that kids need internet or that it is necessary.

Billions and billions of humans got by without refrigerators, refrigerators have only become a thing in the past ~100 years since its conception of existence, a literal amoebic spec in the grand stage of the human race, don't actually try to fool yourself in to arguing that kids need refrigerators or that they are necessary.

Billions and billions of humans got by without deodorant, deodorant has only become a thing in the past ~70 years since its conception of existence, a literal amoebic spec in the grand stage of the human race, don't actually try to fool yourself in to arguing that kids need deodorant or that it is necessary.

Do you see how your argument is poor?
You certainly don't see how yours is.

It's not even worth tussling over, a parent can restrict their children from playing video games if they see fit.

You're trying to make grand arcing comparisons of logic which are utterly irrelevant.
 

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I feel sorry for you... That's the main thing I won't miss about being a kid... the lack of freedom. I plan on getting both versions the day of release and pick up the nastiest Taco Bell meal ever and become couch locked all weekend.

I'm gonna to get so god damn stoned that I'll be able to see myself floating around in the Mario Galaxy stage.
 
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You certainly don't see how yours is.

It's not even worth tussling over, a parent can restrict their children from playing video games if they see fit.

You're trying to make grand arcing comparisons of logic which are utterly irrelevant.
If you're just going to deflect, why even post?
 

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If they're not letting you use your money to buy something (that's not illegal or dangerous in any way) then it's just not your money.

But that said, you shouldn't go against their word. Directly disobeying parents never ends up well, but what you can do is talk to them and convince them to change their minds, in the end, it'll be better off for everyone once you manage to do it.

As for how to convince them, that's up to you to find out, you're the one who knows your parents, and you are the one who knows why they're not letting you buy games, but try working around those reasons, whatever they are, to reach an agreement.
 

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If your parents won't get it for you for Christmas, try really hard to convince them. My parents were also over-controlling when I was younger, if you let them know how much you want it they might eventually give in.
 

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Not getting this game is NOT an option. Day 1 Wii U version and maybe I'll get the 3DS version

EDIT: Also, if it's your money you need to stand your ground and buy wth you want with it! Recognize that it's your life and live it any way you want too
 
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