Who can't get Sm4sh?

[Chimera]

I'm not deflecting, you're derailing, there's a difference.

lol, ok.

 

[Mighty_Guy100]

The Wii U version right now as I don't have a Wii U yet. I'm on the fence on buying one and it depends on if the Wii U will end up a total flop and another console takes it place suddenly.

Trust me, nintendo isint going to drop the wii u to release another system till next gen. It would hurt their image and the consumers would lose faith in them, it happened to SEGA. People who brought the wii u would feel cheated, I know I would.

 

[Gidy]

I have a similar situation, despite being 19. I plan to get both versions, but rumor has it the Wii U version is coming out in November. I still live with my parents and it's a thing where you don't buy for yourself when Christmas is right around the corner because you might get it for Christmas.

2 problems

1. If it comes out in November, then waiting until Christmas will be a nightmare.
2. I just get clothes anyway >.<

Oh well, at least the 3DS version is out in October and I can buy that.

 

[ChikoLad]

His parents aren't banning him from beds or books though, and one could argue that books are absolutely necessary to begin to even the learn the literary capability to even play games properly, and more importantly, to progress through school.

Books are not a necessity. One could learn to read playing text heavy video games just as much as they could a book. Heck, even books are going digital these days.

Reading is necessary, but books are not the only way to learn how to read, especially with the computers and the internet having come so far.

 

[Deleted member 245254]

Books are not a necessity. One could learn to read playing text heavy video games just as much as they could a book. Heck, even books are going digital these days.

Reading is necessary, but books are not the only way to learn how to read, especially with the computers and the internet having come so far.

The fact I have people actually arguing that you don't need books in life really reminds me of the ridiculous generation we're in. Assuming most of you are from the USA I think it's pretty obvious why your country has issues.

Like really, you're actually equating the necessity of video games to books and beds.

 

[ChikoLad]

The fact I have people actually arguing that you don't need books in life really reminds me of the ridiculous generation we're in. Assuming most of you are from the USA I think it's pretty obvious why your country has issues.

Like really, you're actually equating the necessity of video games to books and beds.

Books are simply a medium for many other things/experiences. Video games, or the internet, are also this.

You can teach a person to read simply by writing your own stories on a chalkboard if you really wanted to. Therefore, a book is not a necessity. That's not to say video games are either. Though the internet has become a bit of a necessity for certain kinds of lifestyles (specifically e-commerce endeavours). When it comes to learning to read, all you really need is a decent teacher, and something to read. That doesn't have to be a book. You could even learn to read by just reading a bunch of advertising pamphlets if you really wanted to.

Also, beds are not a necessity either. I've slept on couches, on inflatable beds, on buses, in a study hall in school - I don't need a traditional bed to get some shut eye.

 

[Farorae]

The fact I have people actually arguing that you don't need books in life really reminds me of the ridiculous generation we're in. Assuming most of you are from the USA I think it's pretty obvious why your country has issues.

Like really, you're actually equating the necessity of video games to books and beds.

I really just don't understand what you're trying to do here, you certainly aren't helping the OP and your argument at this point makes little to no valid points. You are trying to make an argument based on that you believe his parents are banning him from playing games and that's not the case.

Anyways back on topic OP I would recommend not trying to go around your parents, in my past experience that only makes matters worse. You should just sit down with your parents and talk to them and try to explain to them why you want the game and how you have a passion for it because it's art and entertainment or something along those lines(or you just simply want to have fun). And if they do by chance buy it for you try to use it in moderation and don't let it get in the way of school and other important activities or else they will seriously regret their decision.

 

[Clavaat]

they'll call me spoiled/control me because they bought it.

I feel like there's more to this...

Either way, as long as your parents aren't downright abusing you, just respect their decision and move on. No reason to sneak around. Being responsible might show them they can let you have it. Till then, find a friend who has it and play at their house. Having loving parents who respect you and care about you, albeit restrictive, is more important than a game. I've played games my whole life, and I love them, but it doesn't hold a candle to how I feel about my parents, even at the most annoying of times.

If your parents are actually abusing you (physically, verbally, w/e) you should tell someone like a school counselor asap. They should help you out. It can be an incredibly difficult situation, but it's important. Also, more important than a game.

Sorry if this comes off as preachy or abhorrent, but seriously, you won't realize how important this stuff is until it truly matters. I would have probably felt the same way around your age, but it'll all make sense later.

 

[Deleted member 245254]

I really just don't understand what you're trying to do here, you certainly aren't helping the OP and your argument at this point makes little to no valid points. You are trying to make an argument based on that you believe his parents are banning him from playing games and that's not the case.

I didn't know you were the end all judge on what constitutes a valid point, but let me go ahead and make it simple for you then if you're having that much trouble understanding.

This topic was reaching out (very visibly) for advice on how to get Smash 4 when he can't spend the money they give him on a game. I came in here stating that if his parents don't want him getting it, he shouldn't get it. Why his parents don't want him to get it isn't my business. We basically agree, that trying to go under your parents noses just isn't the right thing to do.

Then someone mentioned that banning your kids from games is "barbaric", and that kids should have video games. I then stated that children don't need them, hence illustrating the point that he's under no obligation to receive 'em from his parents or expect them to allow him to buy 'em.

Then people start comparing the necessity of video games in general to that of books, beds, and laptops. Who's the one off-course here?

My point is simply the same as it was in the very beginning. Listen to your parents. If they say you can't have a game, you can't have the game. When you get older, as long as you used that non-video game time wisely, you'll have plenty of resources to play all the games you want after you become of your countries legal adult age. That's how the world works.

 

[ORVO5]

Well... you won it. You didn't secretly go out and buy it. Done.

NOT a good idea. I used that before when I was a teenager, and my parents were gullible - did NOT work, lol.

As a kid, I'd just take advantage of the holidays..

 

[Malex]

I didn't know you were the end all judge on what constitutes a valid point, but let me go ahead and make it simple for you then if you're having that much trouble understanding.

This topic was reaching out (very visibly) for advice on how to get Smash 4 when he can't spend the money they give him on a game. I came in here stating that if his parents don't want him getting it, he shouldn't get it. Why his parents don't want him to get it isn't my business. We basically agree, that trying to go under your parents noses just isn't the right thing to do.

Then someone mentioned that banning your kids from games is "barbaric", and that kids should have video games. I then stated that children don't need them, hence illustrating the point that he's under no obligation to receive 'em from his parents or expect them to allow him to buy 'em.

Then people start comparing the necessity of video games in general to that of books, beds, and laptops. Who's the one off-course here?

My point is simply the same as it was in the very beginning. Listen to your parents. If they say you can't have a game, you can't have the game. When you get older, as long as you used that non-video game time wisely, you'll have plenty of resources to play all the games you want after you become of your countries legal adult age. That's how the world works.

This is how the world works.

I'm sure sitting down with them and having a frank discussion on "what can I do to have this" wouldn't be a bad thing, especially if the worst case scenario is that just say no and call you spoiled. If they say no anyway, you just have to assume that they are your parents and are doing what they think is best for you. Maybe you should just appreciate that for now and in the mean time find some friends who will get the game.

 

[Farorae]

I didn't know you were the end all judge on what constitutes a valid point, but let me go ahead and make it simple for you then if you're having that much trouble understanding.

Never said I was. Anyways there's no need to talk down to me I understood quite well. Keep fishing maybe someone else will bite, as for me, I'm done.

 

[EndlessSmash]

NOT a good idea. I used that before when I was a teenager, and my parents were gullible - did NOT work, lol.

As a kid, I'd just take advantage of the holidays..

Just a suggestion. but how would the parents know anyways? There can be private tournaments at schools or something.

If not, say you traded for it. I traded yugioh cards for a Gameboy Advance and my Maplestory account for a PS2 way back when I was still a kid. My parents couldn't really do anything since those were literally my own stuff.

Holidays are good, but that truly depends on whether one wants to wait till then. But I suppose if an individual cannot get it through normal means, they'll have to make do with what they have.

 

[Terrazi Terrajin]

 

[ORVO5]

Just a suggestion. but how would the parents know anyways? There can be private tournaments at schools or something.

If not, say you traded for it. I traded yugioh cards for a Gameboy Advance and my Maplestory account for a PS2 way back when I was still a kid. My parents couldn't really do anything since those were literally my own stuff.

Holidays are good, but that truly depends on whether one wants to wait till then. But I suppose if an individual cannot get it through normal means, they'll have to make do with what they have.

Definitely. There are ways. I also sold a bunch of stuff to get an N64. But I mentioned the holidays because Smash WiiU will be out around the time anyway, so there will be no need to wait

 

[Eternal phoenix Fire]

Books are not a necessity. One could learn to read playing text heavy video games just as much as they could a book. Heck, even books are going digital these days.

Reading is necessary, but books are not the only way to learn how to read, especially with the computers and the internet having come so far.

Books aren't necessary? Tell that to a college student.

 

[ChikoLad]

Books aren't necessary? Tell that to a college student.

I am a college student.

I have not been supplied with, or directed to any books all year. I had online databases to use (plus, my course was kinda on the practical side, so a lot of experimentation was in order).

As I said, books are just a medium for information. They are not the only one for a lot of things these days, and therefore, are not necessary.

 

[Eternal phoenix Fire]

I am a college student.

I have not been supplied with, or directed to any books all year. I had online databases to use (plus, my course was kinda on the practical side, so a lot of experimentation was in order).

As I said, books are just a medium for information. They are not the only one for a lot of things these days, and therefore, are not necessary.

This is true, but books are, of all the mediums, the most used and affordable. Only a small percentage of the world has the finances and resources available to access an online database. That's why the medium still exists.

 

[ChikoLad]

I know, but my point is, they are not a necessity, since you can teach a person to read perfectly without purchasing a single book.

 

[Altais]

Heh, I was expecting this to be a joke thread.

Personally, I have never understood why it was such a sin to like video games. Sure, some games can be very vulgar, violent, and gory, but you see that in movies and books, too. If anything, books actually do a better job of teaching violence than games or movies, since things in books are generally much more realistic. Being an avid reader since childhood, at roughly twelve years old, I already knew several efficient ways to kill a person without the use of a gun or having to be physically strong (fortunately, I was not a violent or angry child).

But to get back on topic, as long as you do not let them interfere with your work or studies, I do not see what the problem is. It's not like you're going out buying a box of cigarettes--THEN I could understand parents flipping out. [Shrugs] But I guess I just answered mine own question. Quite frankly, most minors DO let games and other indulgences get in the way of their studies; they usually know better, but in the end lack self-discipline. If you ask me, the reason most parents shun video games is usually because they just want the best for their children; sometimes irrationally so.

I do not know if you're actually working for your money, or if your parents are just giving it to you, but it could be that they just want you to use your money wisely. Like an above poster said, if you just stay responsible and do well in school (I am assuming you are in school), maybe they will reward you by letting you buy the game. Or, like others have suggested, you could play the game at a friend or acquaintance's house; that's what I did until I was able to earn mine own income.

If parents do not want their children to be spoiled, mine advice is not to deprive or overbear them, but rather make them work hard for the things they want--until they get their own job. If anything, that will better prepare them for the time when they themselves will inevitably have to live independently. That's how I was raised, anyway. [Shrugs] That being said, however, I mineself am not a parent (nor do I want to be), so in the end, I am in no position to offer counseling.

To end things with a bang, I will answer the title of this topic:

I CAN get Smash 4! Though I probably will not have the time to actually play it until way later.

Anyhow, in before the lock. This thread is obviously starting to turn into a melee (pun entirely intended).

 

[Deleted member 245254]

Never said I was. Anyways there's no need to talk down to me I understood quite well. Keep fishing maybe someone else will bite, as for me, I'm done.

What is the point of doing the old "your opinion is one I disagree with therefore you must be trolling" song and dance? It's tiresome and boring.

Heh, I was expecting this to be a joke thread.

Personally, I have never understood why it was such a sin to like video games. Sure, some games can be very vulgar, violent, and gory, but you see that in movies and books, too. If anything, books actually do a better job of teaching violence than games or movies, since things in books are generally much more realistic. Being an avid reader since childhood, at roughly twelve years old, I already knew several efficient ways to kill a person without the use of a gun or having to be physically strong (fortunately, I was not a violent or angry child).

But to get back on topic, as long as you do not let them interfere with your work or studies, I do not see what the problem is. It's not like you're going out buying a box of cigarettes--THEN I could understand parents flipping out. [Shrugs] But I guess I just answered mine own question. Quite frankly, most minors DO let games and other indulgences get in the way of their studies; they usually know better, but in the end lack self-discipline. If you ask me, the reason most parents shun video games is usually because they just want the best for their children; sometimes irrationally so.

I do not know if you're actually working for your money, or if your parents are just giving it to you, but it could be that they just want you to use your money wisely. Like an above poster said, if you just stay responsible and do well in school (I am assuming you are in school), maybe they will reward you by letting you buy the game. Or, like others have suggested, you could play the game at a friend or acquaintance's house; that's what I did until I was able to earn mine own income.

If parents do not want their children to be spoiled, mine advice is not to deprive or overbear them, but rather make them work hard for the things they want--until they get their own job. If anything, that will better prepare them for the time when they themselves will inevitably have to live independently. That's how I was raised, anyway. [Shrugs] That being said, however, I mineself am not a parent (nor do I want to be), so in the end, I am in no position to offer counseling.

To end things with a bang, I will answer the title of this topic:

I CAN get Smash 4! Though I probably will not have the time to actually play it until way later.

Anyhow, in before the lock. This thread is obviously starting to turn into a melee (pun entirely intended).

You might be making the mistake of assuming anyone in here suggested games are much too vulgar, graphic, or violent for children. That isn't what the discussion is hinged on at all.

 

[Farorae]

What is the point of doing the old "your opinion is one I disagree with therefore you must be trolling" song and dance? It's tiresome and boring.

I wasn't saying you were trolling. Anyways it doesn't really matter, have a good one.

 

[Deleted member 245254]

I wasn't saying you were trolling. Anyways it doesn't really matter, have a good one.

Then what is "fishing" to you if not analogous to the term trolling?

 

[Altais]

You might be making the mistake of assuming anyone in here suggested games are much too vulgar, graphic, or violent for children. That isn't what the discussion is hinged on at all.

[Shrugs] True. I have just heard lots of people before, both on the media and real life, criticise or defame video games because they supposedly corrupt people and turn them into criminals, and whatnot. I wasn't accusing anybody in this thread; I was really just rambling. Sorry if I came off that way.

 

[DakotaBonez]

Lol @ Fluggerson is 33 according to his profile. Get a job ya bum.
JK I lied about my age too when I first signed up.

I'm glad I turned 18 last year so I could get a decent job to purchase a wii u, now I have enough for a DS, Oh yeah and uh, college tuition...yeah. Should probably stop wastin money on vidyagamez.

But now that I'm not in highschool I won't be able to play with people so much. I wish I had a handheld gaming device or a phone in highschool so I could have played pokemon or flappy bird with everybody else.

Listen Fluggerson, wait til Christmas and get the wii u version after youve saved up more money, and you can combine the money with whatever money you get for christmas. The key is asking for money, don't ask for stupid sh$# like legos.

Good luck getting 400 bucks by christmas, hell if yer rich just ask for the wii u and smash.