Who are the most successful Bowser players?

[Buuman]

Bowser has potential, however few have demonstrated it.

 

[Cosmick]

Anyways, about Bowser

He's pretty cool no doubt and he has a ton of tools to be successful.

A word of advice and hopefully we can take this conversation somewhere else, flaming gets boring after a while and once its done its done. Now this is going no where, and it started off as a good thing.

Let's make it so there is a best Bowser known, I was disappointed no doubt to see that Dias has no real tournament prowess and that's what we can't have.

How about it guys, lets make Bowser a character to be feared for once, instead of just three or four of us being good with him while he stays low tier why doesn't everyone suck it up put in some work and do the dirty.

That's gospel.

Flaming is boring, to close the flame war though..

 

[OverLade]

Just to throw it out there about Wifi.

Look at the leaderboards on any Smash ranking site (Gamebattles, SBR, AiB). Most of the top players are either pro in real life or **** close. You could assume that since they don't lose often, it might mean they're better than most of the people they play against. There is the disadvantage of not being used to playing on wifi, and some characters having an edge on wifi, but GENERALLY, the better player wins on Wifi. >_>

 

[Buuman]

funny cosmick xD

Well you are part of the east coast which is a plus, I'll be sure to remember u next time I go to a tourney, I hope u have the same tag name. Unfortunately I can't contact u otherwise by aim...or msn...I dont feel like PMing, and u have no friends so...yeah, please go to crit hit 4...I'll be looking forward to seeing you ;D

 

[KevinM]

Just to throw it out there about Wifi.

Look at the leaderboards on any Smash ranking site (Gamebattles, SBR, AiB). Most of the top players are either pro in real life or **** close. You could assume that since they don't lose often, it might mean they're better than most of the people they play against. There is the disadvantage of not being used to playing on wifi, and some characters having an edge on wifi, but GENERALLY, the better player wins on Wifi. >_>

In my general opinion Wi-Fi is not a clear judge of skill. Sure the top players are up there but it doesn't mean its close to "real" smash.

 

[-Kagato-]

How about it guys, lets make Bowser a character to be feared for once, instead of just three or four of us being good with him while he stays low tier why doesn't everyone suck it up put in some work and do the dirty.

I agree with this fully. Truer words haven't been said in a while. Thats why I'm going to start taking my tournaments a bit more seriously and providing evidence from here on. Even if there is no #1, it's better to have numerous top Bowsers all equally doing damage all over the country.

But like what I said earlier, you need experience, so just like KevinM said, get to work and pull out something impressive to the world.

 

[IK3NI]

nobody cares

 

[BurtonEarny]

nobody cares

What does this even refer to... fail on the clarity sir

 

[DJ Nintendo]

I'm definitely the best Melee Bowser player hands down lol. I'm mad that this discussion is just talking about Brawl though. My Bowser in Brawl is too d*mn good anyway lol. I barely know sh*t about the game (like matchups, mechanics, Bowser tricks, etc.) and I almost never play it. The reason why I say my Brawl Bowser is good is because I'm just mad smart period. My mind games are amazing and Bowser is mostly a mind game character lol. Get at me for meatridin' myself lol.

I definitely agree on what you said, Lord Kagato. Top Bowser players will **** all over the world all dai and I'm already doing it lol.

 

[-Kagato-]

I'm definitely the best Melee Bowser player hands down lol. I'm mad that this discussion is just talking about Brawl though. My Bowser in Brawl is too d*mn good anyway lol. I barely know sh*t about the game (like matchups, mechanics, Bowser tricks, etc.) and I almost never play it. The reason why I say my Brawl Bowser is good is because I'm just mad smart period. My mind games are amazing and Bowser is mostly a mind game character lol. Get at me for meatridin' myself lol.

I definitely agree on what you said, Lord Kagato. Top Bowser players will **** all over the world all dai and I'm already doing it lol.

That's some...confidence you've got there. ^_^;

Oh well. Who am I to judge? You've been mentioned a few times already. I haven't seen anything from you, but if people have been saying you're good, then I won't protest. I won't "get at you" with flaming or anything.

 

[KevinM]

DJ said my Bowser is good in melee, and basically Melee bowser directly carries over to Brawl because it's all thinking.

Yo DJ, BOWSA ALL DAI

 

[Sliq]

I didn't say that if the name sounded silly the player would be easy...

No, I did, and I still stand by this until the ratio of bad people with stupid names to good people with stupid names is better than 10:1.

and just because I don't pay attention to "who's the best" doesn't mean I don't play competitively but meh maybe I don't maybe I do. Doesn't matter I play.

Well, KNOWING a lot about the game you play is a good way to get better without actually needing skill, and knowing who is good with who in order to study their videos and find out the tricks they use, they setups they use, and the hole's in their playstyle to use to your advantage. Also, if they play the character you do, you try to emulate their successes and avoid their pitfalls.

But since you don't watch videos, you don't really get any of this, which means you are already at a base disadvantage just based off of knowledge (or the lack thereof).

and I don't care what "name" I make for myself I'll still get matches whenever I do feel like playing which isn't much lately. I'm mostly waiting on Street Fighter 4 I'm getting bored of brawl but I haven't been on videogames as much as I used to be anyways.

Well I do care. I care about the community as a whole and I care about the fellow Bowser players. I want them to learn **** and be good, and also spread their knowledge. I don't want someone who doesn't watch videos, doesn't play often, doesn't frequently go to tournaments telling people how to play Bowser when he is less qualified than the people he is talking to (assuming these are attributes that you hold, based off of what you are telling me).

That's not to say you can't say, "Hey, do this," but don't get pissed when someoen says, "No, that's wrong, do this instead."

I haven't recorded a match in months now I just give advice to up coming Bowser mainers. (and stay posted on the new AT's)

Same as above.

I know they are different levels of play with each character I'm saying when pinned up against Bowser I know what happens in those match ups. Not to say their impossible to win. I know for a fact a good Falco will always beat a Bowser player.

No, you are wrong. On basically every level. You don't know what happens in those matchups, and you don't know for a fact that Falco will always beat Bowser, even if each player is comparative in skill.

Even this DJ Nintendo guy would lose to a random Falco player I know is great with Falco's chaingrab and I'm not saying this guy sucks I'm just stating what I know is true.

And I am stating you are wrong.

If anyone wants to prove that their Bowser is so "godly" then we don't need to argue it. Wifi does exist in brawl. Just hit me up for a brawl and when I'm at the keyboard I'll get with you. Note that I will record the match.

lol wifi

Wifi proves nothing, other than who is better at wifi. My game relies heavily on prediction, but also on reaction, which is impossible on wifi. Bad people have very little reactionary game, while good people have great reactionary game (and insanely good people have ridiculously amazing reactionary game).

Removing this aspect simply removes a weapon from a good players repatoire while impacting the lesser player none. He lacks the knowledge or experience to understand whats happening in a situation, and most certainly doesn't know the best retaliatory measure.

You "godly" bowser players can beat so and so and whoever else but I only believe what I see and do myself.

This would be fine if you were good.

If you can beat these great Falco players then beat me (I won't be using Falco as I don't know how to use him but I'll use other characters at which I'm not good with but know how to use good enough) I'll be using characters who are "easier" then Falco.

This makes no sense. Beating you would have no bearing on the Falco - Bowser matchup. Furthermore, beating someone bad has no impact on beating someone good. Also, lol wifi.

but you don't want that to happen because it would damage your reps so instead make excuses about how I'm to lame to brawl and how I'm not worth your time. Either way your just proving my point.

It's mostly that wifi isn't an appropriate test of skill other than who is better at wifi. I already described this. IF it makes you feel better, you can pretend I'm dodging you.

If we ever meet IRL at a tournament I won't have any problem money matching you.

Wifi is here so if your going to show off then do so if not lets hear those excuses.

Don't lose to Falco players. No excuses.

Not really a legit argument, is it?

I'm not brawling you because of this and that johns. amirite

No.

*My last post here*

Highly doubt it. This internet drama is far too strong.

 

[BurtonEarny]

No, I did, and I still stand by this until the ratio of bad people with stupid names to good people with stupid names is better than 10:1.



Well, KNOWING a lot about the game you play is a good way to get better without actually needing skill, and knowing who is good with who in order to study their videos and find out the tricks they use, they setups they use, and the hole's in their playstyle to use to your advantage. Also, if they play the character you do, you try to emulate their successes and avoid their pitfalls.

But since you don't watch videos, you don't really get any of this, which means you are already at a base disadvantage just based off of knowledge (or the lack thereof).




Well I do care. I care about the community as a whole and I care about the fellow Bowser players. I want them to learn **** and be good, and also spread their knowledge. I don't want someone who doesn't watch videos, doesn't play often, doesn't frequently go to tournaments telling people how to play Bowser when he is less qualified than the people he is talking to (assuming these are attributes that you hold, based off of what you are telling me).

That's not to say you can't say, "Hey, do this," but don't get pissed when someoen says, "No, that's wrong, do this instead."




Same as above.


[/U][/B]

No, you are wrong. On basically every level. You don't know what happens in those matchups, and you don't know for a fact that Falco will always beat Bowser, even if each player is comparative in skill.




And I am stating you are wrong.




lol wifi

Wifi proves nothing, other than who is better at wifi. My game relies heavily on prediction, but also on reaction, which is impossible on wifi. Bad people have very little reactionary game, while good people have great reactionary game (and insanely good people have ridiculously amazing reactionary game).

Removing this aspect simply removes a weapon from a good players repatoire while impacting the lesser player none. He lacks the knowledge or experience to understand whats happening in a situation, and most certainly doesn't know the best retaliatory measure.




This would be fine if you were good.



This makes no sense. Beating you would have no bearing on the Falco - Bowser matchup. Furthermore, beating someone bad has no impact on beating someone good. Also, lol wifi.



It's mostly that wifi isn't an appropriate test of skill other than who is better at wifi. I already described this. IF it makes you feel better, you can pretend I'm dodging you.

If we ever meet IRL at a tournament I won't have any problem money matching you.



Don't lose to Falco players. No excuses.

Not really a legit argument, is it?



No.



Highly doubt it. This internet drama is far too strong.

you know for a little while I was half convinced you were just an as$ with a temper, I was wrong about you... sorry for that.

 

[C@sH Mooney]

ok so for real

DJ NINTENDO IS THE BEST BOWSER CLOSE THIS THREAD QUIT LIFE!!!!!

this thread is pointless now.

 

[KevinM]

Cash Mooney also loves my bowser don't let him fool you :D

 

[-Kagato-]

Highly doubt it. This internet drama is far too strong.

I've always wondered what attracted so many people into returning after their "last post," "real last post," "seriously guys, this is the last post," and "I have no time to deal with such pathetic children such as yourselves post." Unfortunately, without internet drama, things would be very boring.

And besides. This is Bowser. Very serious business.

 

[C@sH Mooney]

Cash Mooney also loves my bowser don't let him fool you :D

Yeah I do but I also forget Rhode Island is an existing state sometimes D:

LOL

Hey I just noticed we're both tourney hosts that are bowser mains THAT ARE FROM THE EAST COAST :O

 

[KevinM]

It's ok sometimes I forget RI is a state too, I just think I live in a really big town.

 

[Vect0r]

A next Gimpyfish? I have no idea. Who's going to become better than Gimpyfish anyway?

 

[BurtonEarny]

A next Gimpyfish? I have no idea. Who's going to become better than Gimpyfish anyway?

Melee bowser and brawl bowser are pretty different in some important areas... not really a valid comparison methinks! The question asked more appropriatly would be, "Who will be the new face of bowser in brawl."

 

[Vect0r]

Melee bowser and brawl bowser are pretty different in some important areas... not really a valid comparison methinks! The question asked more appropriatly would be, "Who will be the new face of bowser in brawl."

Didn't Gimpy join a SSBB tourney as Bowser?

 

[KevinM]

Lol and people wonder why we laugh at 08ers. Or at least a majority of them

 

[Gimpyfish62]

i hear bladewise from washington has a pretty good bowser

 

[KevinM]

I've heard along those lines to, but no disrespect I'd have to hear him beat some of the bigger names before I can just nod.

 

[BurtonEarny]

Lol and people wonder why we laugh at 08ers. Or at least a majority of them

I take offense! jp. whatever, think what you want... Although, there are some pretty active and helpful 08's.

 

[KevinM]

I don't deny there are some people that break the mold.

 

[Sliq]

Dazwa called me Gimpysliq and I cried and then vowed vengeance.

 

[Buuman]

Dazwa called me Gimpysliq and I cried and then vowed vengeance.

Lmao, Dazwa is cool **** though xD

 

[Miles.]

Hey Sliq and important question: when are you making a new sig with Bowser?

 

[Sliq]

Hey Sliq and important question: when are you making a new sig with Bowser?

Good question Mr. Eternal Sunshine avatar. When I'm done with my ****ing school project.

 

[Miles.]

Good question Mr. Eternal Sunshine avatar. When I'm done with my ****ing school project.

Lol. K.

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