Which character is hardest to KO when having perfect DI?

[AranOcean]

Snake is a friggen tank. He NEVER dies.

 

[thanortinzak]

DDD, Snake, Bowser, and Donkey Kong are all the hardest to KO when having perfect DI.

Although it's not super hard to score horizontal KOs on them, the Space Animals (Wolf, Fox, Falco) are all hard to vertically KO (I think it's due to their fast falling speed?).

 

[Kamikaze*]

He's easy to do what now?

Lol, that was the wrong word.

He's easy to rack up damage on because he's big and doesn't have a projectile.

 

[GwJ]

Speaking of heavies, how does Bowser do here?

 

[Crow!]

GW's bucket braking makes him even harder to kill than Bowser with perfect DI... but only IF he's hit a long distance, like across the length of FD, since he needs to have enough time to do the bucket before he dies. From the side of a stage hit off the same side so there's a short distance to the blast zone, he's still just a normal light.

 

[Xebenkeck]

DK can do that too. But better. So can Snake and DDD.

I know wolf's not the hardest to kill, i'd thought i'd just give him a shout out because he s pretty ridiculous to kill in his own right. DDD is the hardest to kill.

 

[Ray_Kalm]

King Dedede.

 

[Elyssa Xey Hexen]

To me, G&W would be the hardest to KO simply because he can bucket brake. If I recall, G&W can survive some pretty crazy things because of that. Even more so than anyone else.

 

[Espy Rose]

I'd say DK, Snake, D3, then G&W (only for bucket braking)

 

[Laem]

1st dedede due to most vertical weight, and a fast bair although multiple jumps means not too much MC
2nd DK lotsa horizontal weight and a great momentum cancel, but both will only save you from horizontal finishers
then snake.. bowser... 5th charizard or somethin idk, also, dont mention MK please, a fast aerial isnt gonna help if there's barely MC

 

[Shadowtheoriginalone]

I think I'll say Snake...or DDD.

One of the two...

 

[smashkng]

I tested DI and momentum cancel against Marth's untippered fsmash from middle of FD with DDD and he could survive up to about 205%.

 

[Craeter]

DDD ftw.

 

[:mad:]

... really now, why was this thread necro'd? It was over a month old and contributed nothing.

 

[.Marik]

Ally DI for the win.

 

[choknater]

Ally DI is amazing. Snake.

G&W has a great recovery as well... but he's light.

 

[IThinkAboutIvysaur]

Ivysaur .Especially against characters with Fire type killmoves he's a tank.

 

[Nestec]

Olimar

King Triple D's. Or Snake.

nb4lockthnxbai

Ivysaur .Especially against characters with Fire type killmoves he's a tank.

You would say that.

 

[SothE700k]

There's a meaning behind the phrase "Snake doesn't die."

 

[FUNKLAB]

Vertically, D3 for sure. Horizontally, Probably DK or Snake.

 

[Luigi player]

Definitely DK.

Dedede lives like forever if you hit him up, but most fsmashes/dsmashes and strong aerials that hit horizontally will kill him at lower % than the other heavis, because his horizontal momentum cancel sucks so much...

 

[Mota]

DDD definitely, bair.

Snake would be second IMO, c4 recovery but that's not relevant.

 

[itsthebigfoot]

dk has upb braking and is the second heaviest off both the top and side, so him

 

[Frown]

Look at Yoshi's usmash at 4:31 in this video:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KVM5EC-1uxw#t=04m25s

The fat penguin doesn't want to die. He doesn't even reach the edge of the screen, and Yoshi's usmash would normally kill at that %, and the move wasn't even stale. >_>

 

[smashkng]

With DDD you can DI very up and still not die vertically. That's why Dedede is heaviest with DI. Snake can also survive DIing very up, though not as up as DDD being 2nd to DDD. DIing so up with Wario is not perfect DI with Wario.

 

[M-WUZ-H3R3]

The top three are Link, DeDeDe, and Snake. They are all heavies and have good momentum canceles. They can live up to 145% most of the time.

Link uses his b-air, DeDeDe uses his b-air, and Snake uses either his b-air or u-air.

 

[sasook]

They can live up to 145% most of the time.

Way higher than that - dying at those percentages for those characters is considered low, tbh.

160% at least.

 

[Xi_Athletics_ix]

I'd like to mention Wolf can live a pretty **** long time, he is a relativly heavy character with a fast falling speed, and has fast aerials to momentum cancel with, bair, nair, and uair. I've seen wolfs live to 200+ percent before.

Wolf can live to about 180 with perfect DI after getting hit with a MK DSmash from the center of battlefield. They'res a vid of it somewhere but i forget what it's called.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pVBtu5gsnyc
At about 1:20

 

[who8theburrito]

snake.....Snakeee....SNAKEEEEEEE...... :D

 

[Mr.Victory07]

dk has upb braking and is the second heaviest off both the top and side, so him

This. And DK has good enough recovery to make it back to the stage most of the time if you dont up-B brake

 

[smashkng]

The top three are Link, DeDeDe, and Snake. They are all heavies and have good momentum canceles. They can live up to 145% most of the time.

Link uses his b-air, DeDeDe uses his b-air, and Snake uses either his b-air or u-air.

Link has the issue that his recovery sucks, and that's one way to easily KO him.

 

[Supreme65]

D3 and Snake can live like crazy. Around 200-275% My Peach can live that long if I space like crazy

 

[Nihongo-ookami]

Old Manondorf.

 

[Ray_Kalm]

Old Manondorf.

Just because he's the slowest (character) doesn't mean he's automatically the heaviest.

 

[StarChaserNX]

I'm going with DDD too. He's heavy so he can soak up a lot of damage and he has good recovery with his floats.

 

[JUDGE]

hmmmm ddd or snake......????

 

['V']

It's gotta be Snake. He's freaking heavy to begin with and if he ever gets back on the stage, (depending on how good the player is) it's gonna be hard to hit him back off again because Snake is ********.

 

[GreyClover]

Link.

Proof: Look up ArkiveZero.

 

[GwJ]

Not Link. He may be able to survive strong blows, but he can get killed trying to get back onstage.

 

[phi1ny3]

DDD, then DK, then Snake, for light weights I'd say G&W and MK.
I wonder what the fox/zelda boards have been able to pull off with that new "b-reversal" momentum cancel trick, it's awfully risky, but it seems like a crazy pseudo-bucket brake.