What wsa the tech that was the hardest for you to master?

[err]

ughh the transition from x -> y is terrible. i can't believe how many WD's i miss.
it doesn't help that i was using my middle finger for R and am now using my index finger ><

its spring of 2006 all over again ^_^

 

[MikeHaggarTHAKJB]

Would switching jump buttons really help that much lol?
i've always used Y tho ha

 

[Dai-A]

My hardest was probably JC shines(still cant do it with Fox), Wavedash, and fox's drillshine

 

[err]

Would switching jump buttons really help that much lol?
i've always used Y tho ha

for double shines i don't stand a chance with X

of course, i'm really never going to use double-shines buy w/e

i think i switched to Y to make my fox/falco faster .. again i could probably have just worked a little harder with X and achieved the same results in less time/effort

 

[rabbt]

Double shines are great for when people shield the first one. But then again so is the shine JC grab.

 

[MikeHaggarTHAKJB]

for double shines i don't stand a chance with X

of course, i'm really never going to use double-shines buy w/e

i think i switched to Y to make my fox/falco faster .. again i could probably have just worked a little harder with X and achieved the same results in less time/effort

Jc shines arent all that useful imo, but well, whatever floats your boat i guess lol

 

[DTKPch]

This entire time, I still haven't been able to properly ledge tech. Of course, it's not technical, it's just timing, but I still can't do it.

Consistently SHing with Fox is hard if I want to use it for other things. For example, to SHDL, I move from the Y button to the b button too quickly, which causes me to push harder on Y (it's a mental thing, it doesn't actually physically require me to push harder), so I can't SHDL.

Oh, and super wavedash. Seriously, wtf. Maybe if I practice harder, I can count frames in my head.

 

[Fletch]

JC shines, SHDL, and moonwalking top my list.

 

[slartibartfast42]

lol LHDL is ******* easy, try shinebair at really high percents

Ummmm.... Doesn't shine always hit the same way regardless of percent? So wouldn't shine Bair be just as difficult at any percent?

Also, I'm so used to X, I've used it ever since I picked up the game in elementary school for the first time and my hands weren't big enough to reach the Y button quickly without accidentally pressing A half the time XD. Man, that was forever ago, when the game first came out...

 

[Dark Sonic]

Pivoting. I still can't pivot up tilts or d-tilts, and f-tilt is so inconsistant (I can do everything else though).

Oh, and I still haven't gotten the hang of the dash shield platform drop thing.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vLu5972oPZc

I wanna learn to do it since it looks soooooo sexy, but I've never been great with tech skill.
I'll get it eventually.

 

[Silent Wolf]

You dont play fox just b/c you're not fast enough to do a useless tech? You're missing out.

I get it, why I went to Falco for a long time lol.

 

[Jboy313]

short hop cuz its really hard...pressing it then letting go in the first 3 frames...

 

[choknater]

for me it was multishining

tried it many times, never got it down even today

 

[pootTheBox]

still can't moonwalk perfectly

 

[Shai Hulud]

Pivoting. I still can't pivot up tilts or d-tilts, and f-tilt is so inconsistant (I can do everything else though).

lol, nobody can pivot utilts and dtilts. That would be insane.

Oh, and I still haven't gotten the hang of the dash shield platform drop thing.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vLu5972oPZc

I wanna learn to do it since it looks soooooo sexy, but I've never been great with tech skill.
I'll get it eventually.

Yayyy somebody linked my video.

Here's a tip: the difficulty of doing the dash platform drop is highly dependent on the state of your controller. To do it really fast and consistently you need a "Fox controller," i.e., a controller with an extremely loose control stick. It takes a LONG time to break in a controller like this.

If you have a newer controller it is considerably more difficult.

Heh lol, i really don't have a problem with the stage in itself, i can do pretty well on it actually.
I just used the stage as an example of my L-canceling problem. Another example would short hop and do an arial from a platform and land on the ground (below the platform), I can't do it. The timing feels unnatural to me.
the problem is that I think "press L X amount of time after the fast fall" like I said, so I sort of have to re-learn l canceling now i think .
I can do tons of crazy **** in this game like SHDLing in lightning mode, moonwalk->edgehog with ganon (much harder then moonwalking across the stage with falcon), triple nair (a non-diing) falco with falcon (you need to be really fast to do that), pivot fsmashes about 80% of the time, shffl stupidly fast with fox, etc... but I can't l cancel unless it's in a shffl or normal full-jumped arial, because I learned it the wrong way >.> it's so annoying

I had the same problem with l-cancelling awkwardly timed things, like fall through platform L-cancels, aerials off platforms, aerials when you've been hit up in the air, etc. But what I started to do is L-cancel with multiple buttons when I think I might miss it otherwise. I just mash L, R, and Z right before I hit the ground. If you spread the button presses out slightly you give yourself a larger window for getting the L-cancel. It works really well, you should try it.

 

[PaintedGhost]

Wavedashing and L-cancel, everything else came after.

This. Once you know this, everything else is relatively easy.

 

[TokiDoki]

I had the same problem with l-cancelling awkwardly timed things, like fall through platform L-cancels, aerials off platforms, aerials when you've been hit up in the air, etc. But what I started to do is L-cancel with multiple buttons when I think I might miss it otherwise. I just mash L, R, and Z right before I hit the ground. If you spread the button presses out slightly you give yourself a larger window for getting the L-cancel. It works really well, you should try it.

Do you still do this?
Just wondering

 

[KevinM]

Spelling

GET IT BECAUSE YOU SPELLED WAS WRONG?!

*chortles*

 

[Ojanya]

My fox sucks, but SHDL, and waveshining isn't that hard people.

 

[DtJ Jungle]

thunders, jc shines

btw you can pivot utilts....see frankenstine by SW

 

[MikeHaggarTHAKJB]

I don't think he pivots utilts in that vid.

pivot dtilts.

I can do it. heh.

Spoiler

Actually Ive only done it ONCE LOL. It's hard as fuuuuckkk

 

[LieutenantSerg]

Moonwalking is purdy hard for me but I never really tried to learn it heh

 

[Gen. Empoleon]

Spelling

GET IT BECAUSE YOU SPELLED WAS WRONG?!

*chortles*

I'm amazed I wasn't called out on this earlier.

 

[unwelc0med]

SWD is hard...

 

[S.R. XXVII]

JC Shines and SWD. Silent Wolf and Phanna are awesome >_>

 

[teeman92]

wavedash....nuff said

 

[Da Shuffla]

When you guys pivot do you DD first? Because that is what is hard for me to do.

 

[ZeroFox]

Waveshine, definitely. Simply being able to perform it was pretty hard, but getting it down to the point where I could use it effectively in matches was a whole different problem. That took quite a long time =P

 

[LieutenantSerg]

Wall teching is still some purdy hard stuff now that I think about it
like doing it constantly lol