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I think that the only thing that *may* have been affected by the leak is the order of the character announcements. I'd like to think that Shulk was planned to be confirmed, but that the reveal video was changed because Sakurai saw it as the only way to deliver hype and prevent an anticlimax.
Well lets hope the speculations are wrong and that Marth doesn't get cut in half power wise in the end.Just for the record, that last part is pure speculation.
I agree that the leak affected the order of character announcements. I think that's why they went ahead and released Rosalina & Luma to restore some hope. And immediately after the E3 characters, they went ahead and dropped Robin and Lucina. It's also possible that the leak was manufactured by the company itself to create hype since those things happen.I think that the only thing that *may* have been affected by the leak is the order of the character announcements. I'd like to think that Shulk was planned to be confirmed, but that the reveal video was changed because Sakurai saw it as the only way to deliver hype and prevent an anticlimax.
Chrom being in Robin's final smash is pretty much the best way for him to be included, IMO. I don't think he was pulled late in development; he was probably on the table at first before the roster was finalised, but taken off early on.
I don't think he'll be too much weaker based on the footage I've seen. His power has been shifted and his playstyle might change slightly to match it, but Marth has always had a very solidly designed kit so I don't see his power being halved.
Lucina represents an alternate way to play with Marth's basic design - probably faster, lighter, with less knockback (<-- speculation) and less of a focus on spacing, which may result in a more aggressive rush-down playstyle.
So the opposite of how Grima works? Those two should swap sides.
I know this isn't the topic, but why did you credit Namco? Isn't Sora given more credit, since they are developing, where Namco and Capcon are co-developing?
I gotta say, if I were developing this game, I totally would've forgot to put in Naga's mark. Well played Namco Bandai.
Dated you say? No reason to bring him back you say? I would agree with your statement if this didn't exist.
His relevance is the fact he is a fan favorite. Everyone has the right to want something and see it come back. Just like how Ike's relevance has been "dated", it shouldn't matter.
The upcoming smash is co-developed by Sora and Bandai Namco, not Capcom
Nope. I meant Bandai Namco. Bamco is making these games with Sora.
Okay, I thought Capcom was helping develop. And I didn't know of the Namco bandai name change
Not you pulling up Awakening DLC artwork and counting that as he isn't dated. Let's just bring Ephraim, Eirika, Lyn, Leif, etc. while we're at itDated you say? No reason to bring him back you say? I would agree with your statement if this didn't exist.
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And the fact Lucina is a lazy clone is more than enough of a reason to be frustrated with Roy's removal. The fact he was removed for being a clone, just for Sakurai to go back and put Lucina in as an even lazier clone is unjustifiable for his reason of removing Roy in the first place. And you can't argue against that fact.
His relevance is the fact he is a fan favorite. Everyone has the right to want something and see it come back. Just like how Ike's relevance has been dated, it shouldn't matter.
Requested character DLC has relevance rather it is fan relevance or story relevance. But if you want to argue about relevance, It was pointless for them to bring back Ike. Because he is "dated". In which case Ike should've just been replaced by whatever relevant character was next in line. But he wasn't. And why was that? Oh right! Being a fan favorite.
Yeah, and tell that to Lucina who does pretty much the same thing as Marth without anything to really set her apart. Great inclusion there. Really did a great deal of fan service by adding a relevant character with a moveset that doesn't compliment her in the slightest. And who gives a crap if Ike has a flame attribute? That is like saying Marth should be removed since Lucina pretty much does the same thing as Marth in this instance. The only relevance he has is being the original poster boy of the series. Unless you want to call his "appearance" in Awakening relevant. In which case LOL your first point was a waste then.
Yeah. There is absolutely every reason to be mad when it is a character you like that got removed. Especially if his reason for being removed is now NULL AND VOID.
Again, why should that matter? If that were the case, Ike's popularity and relevance would have lost out to Chrom's. It is not like they couldn't have said yes to both characters.
Ike wasn't a pointless inclusion. Obviously Sakurai doesn't remove characters unless they're completely redundant to keep investing in. Radiant Hero Ike introduced Aether, his signature move, which is still prominent in Fire Emblem today. It's a skill that Chrom and Lucina even share. His descendant Priam even gets a lot of attention in Awakening, ranking #13 on the male Awakening popularity poll. His flame attribute is iconic. He was in two games that weren't Japan-exclusive.
So Melee fans don't get a say anymore? Mkay, I get your angle. I guess Melee fans don't deserve a say if they aren't directly Fire Emblem fans. I'm so sorry for having an opinion about a character I enjoy. I'm such a bad fan.
Does it matter if I have or have not? Being a fan of a character is being a fan of a character. Once you've invested time into playing a character you actually like and see them removed, it gives that player every right to be mad. This is a common theme in fighting games. Their relevance hardly means a damn thing. When a character is popular, they are often discussed to make a return in upcoming games. Sure not every character makes the cut. But if they are replaced by someone who does their job, you can bet your ass they get ripped for it by their fans.
You are assuming that I believe Roy deserves Lucina's spot, which isn't the case at all. I believe Sakurai is a hypocrite for doing to Lucina what made Roy get removed from the start. It hardly merits his removal to begin with. I'm well aware of Lucina's roll in the game as the
... I'm not at all against her inclusion.@Reginleif Just gonna say that I've got nothing against Lucina. In fact, I wanted her more than Chrom in the first place. But the way her inclusion was made was like killing two characters at once. I'm not okay with that.
I believe his veteran status, on top of being a popular character because of his original inclusion merits him more than enough of a reason to come back. Clone or not.
